Obama needs to stop with the right wing attack politics. This one is straight out of Karl's playbook

[2rth2pwr]

eta- change notebook to playbook in title


Obama says he's all about bringing everyone together, he sees a brighter day. He says

it's time to get past the "silly season" and the politics of "gotcha". He promised a politics of HOPE, a new

kind of politics, a kind of politics that lifts people up, not tear them down. As a member of Wright's church

he must have heard about forgiveness. We are forgiven, so we must be forgiving. When someone has apologized and

asked for forgiveness, that is what you do. The man who says that it is time to take the politics out of the gutter,

to stop with the poltics of division is doing this as of today 4/19/08----


Obama Campaign Revives Attack Over Clinton's 'Bosnia' Account
April 19, 2008 5:13 PM
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/obama-campaign.html

ABC News' Sunlen Miller and Kate Snow report: Sen. Barack Obama's campaign has reinvigorated its attack against Sen. Hillary Clinton, today rolling out three Bosnian war veterans to make the case that Clinton was dishonorable when she made inaccurate comments about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia.

Clinton has admitted that her campaign trail claim that she dodged sniper fire in 1996 while landing in Tuzla airport in Bosnia was a misstatement.

At Wednesday’s ABC News debate, she said, “I'm embarrassed by it. I have apologized for it. I've said it was a mistake. And it is, I hope, something that you can look over.”....

...Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson shot back (so to speak) on a conference call with reporters.

“Boy when the Obama campaign decides to go negative, they really go negative!” Wolfson said.

Wolfson noted that at Wednesday night's debate, Obama had said his campaign only talked about Clinton's misstatements on the Tuzla incident when officials were asked by reporters.

"Today, on a Saturday before the election, they have a conference call?" Wolfson asked rhetorically. “This is part of the attack, attack, attack on this last weekend here."

The roll out of the veterans’ attack on Clinton came on the day of Obama’s train tour of Pennsylvania.

And when she gets caught at it, the notion is, 'Well, you know what, that's just politics. That's how it works in Washington. You can say one thing here and say another thing there.'"

Obama said that change can only come if “we deliver independence from the petty, trivial nonsense.”



Obama heal thyself.

When can we move on and get to the real issues that are affecting ordinary Americans?

[GarbagemanLB]

1. Maybe when Hillary stops with her bullshit 'bitter' attack ads he will drop it.

[dkf]

2. hahaha...taste of her own medicine. She said she loves the heat and she wants to be in the kitchen.

He's only obliging her wishes...because she asked him to.

Isn't it good that she is showing how strong she is? You should be happy he's doing it.

[AtomicKitten]

3. Opposite Day again?

Oy.

[DemGa]

4. "You can say one thing here and say another thing there"

Of course, Sen. Obama has been at this all along - It's long past due to strike back at Obama's hypocrisy.

[dchill]

13. I'm going to stand with Harry Truman on this.

:eyes:

[dchill]

5. Hey, you know what? I think this is all part of the heat...

in the KITCHEN! I'm with Harry Truman on this one! :shrug:

[2rth2pwr]

7. If Obama is so quick to throw out the foundational promise of his campaign

he must not have meant a word of it.

Don't believe the hype.

[dchill]

12. Yes, he should stop the right-wing attacks...

so that Hillary can keep doing it, and do it more! It's a kitchen, see, a kitchen! It's got to have a kitchen sink, and Hillary has already called dibs on it!

[cliffordu]

6. Let's see....she has BRAGGED about the kitchen sink

with the slime and rumor and innuendo, and he brings A LIE ABOUT BEING UNDER FIRE FROM A FUCKING SNIPER....A lie she admitted to (sort of) on television, and you have your jockey shorts wadded up???

Infantile hypocrisy at it's best!!

[2rth2pwr]

8. His promises to the American people are only valid until he changes his mind?

[cliffordu]

9. SO: Do you think you'll leave here after she steps down??

Or are you going to hang around until the General Election??

[democracy1st]

41. Yawn

[Swamp Rat]

10. Hillary needs to stop attacking liberal activists.

Otherwise, she will lose a lot more supporters.

[Barrymores Ghost]

11. She admitted in the Philly "debate" that she LIED.

Not "misremembered."

Not "misspoke."

Not "suffered from sleep deprivation."

She admitted knowingly saying things that were patently false. She was desperately padding her resume in the face of having nothing else to fucking say, and she finally outed HERSELF.

Barack Obama shouldn't be the only one talking about this. The entire MSM should take it up.

And you should be ashamed...of her...and of yourself, for defending her LIES.

[2rth2pwr]

14. Obama could learn something about taking ownership and apologizing from Hillary.

This is his lame attempt--- "Obviously, if I worded things in a way that made people offended, I deeply regret that,"

Where do you see me defending what she said?

I've always said she has a flair for the dramatic.

[cliffordu]

15. Well. it sure worked for me.

What would have had him say??

[Barrymores Ghost]

16. "Flair for the dramatic."

That's beautiful.

She dishonors every vet who ever had to actually DUCK SNIPER FIRE in her effort to score cheap and meaningless political points, and you call it a "flair for the dramatic."

You fucking people.

There's nothing else that anyone could ever say to you. You're utterly lost in the fucking woods.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

17. Its HIS fault that she lied about that

bad obama bad! how dare you make her spin such a tale!

[cliffordu]

18. Yeah!!! My wife says Obama needs to be SPANKED for what he's done!!

And she wants the job.....is THAT what you're saying??

[Emit]

19. Hillary and her fans need to stop projecting

[gateley]

20. This is so ironically ludicrous -- thanks for the laugh! nt

[CakeGrrl]

21. Funny how this is conveniently invoked to protect Hillary from her own LIES

As HRC supporters are so quick to point out, this IS a campaign and it gets tough.

If Hillary wants to try to pad her "experience" and "readiness" resume with a story she made up out of thin air as an argument to select her, then she's fair game. That lie came out of her mouth in a dishonest attempt to gain votes.

Obama didn't lie when he made his 'bitter' remarks, and many people agreed with his statement, but it was used against him to gin up faux outrage. Such is the difference between being called out on a lie and being smeared by Rovian tactics.

[2rth2pwr]

24. Obama's lies about "The Politics of Hope" don't bother you?

I could see him making an issue of this before Hillary admitted her mistake and apologized, but now

after he proclaimed with pride that he did not bring this up, it is just blatant hypocrisy.

[CakeGrrl]

27. Sorry, this is fair game. Obama apologized for the wording of his "bitter" remarks

and MORE than answered the Wright issue, but that didn't stop Clinton from piling on at the debate. She sure didn't offer him the same courtesy she now seeks. It's very reminiscent of the Bush administration going on the attack, then throwing out the "we need to change the tone" meme to stifle counter-argument.

Bosnia could have been a non-issue altogether if she'd not made it up. Obama isn't playing "gotcha". His opponent handed him an opportunity to counter-punch and he took it.

[Political Heretic]

22. Yes, Hillary is a liar - how dare Obama point that out.

:shrug:

[Political Heretic]

23. I believe Hillary was just saying this week how she loves it in the kitchen and loves the heat....

...well, then I guess her supporters should STFU when get gets some for her own lies.

Apologizing for it - which she really didn't do - doesn't mean you get to sweep it under the rug. It was the most brazen, outrageous, insane example of pure outright lying without even any attempt to avoid it that we've seen in the entire campaign from anyone since the primaries started. That's an issue. It goes straight to character, trustworthiness, judgment, experience and readiness.

She did it to herself. She needs to deal with that.

[2rth2pwr]

26. Obama has been a hypocrite from day one.

"When it comes to negative campaign tactics, Senator Obama has been a hypocrite from day one, decrying attack politics from one side of his mouth while he and his campaign wage a character assassination effort from the other,” said Clinton spokesman Phil Singer. “The juxtaposition of Senator Obama’s comments in the debate and the remarks made on his campaign conference call this afternoon prove the point."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-camp-obama-was-a-hypocrite-from-day-one/

[Political Heretic]

33. None of which changes the accuracy of anything in my post.

Even if I agreed with the characterization of the clinton spokesman - which I don't - it doesn't change the facts above.

By the way, the comments were from Gen. Walter Stewart, who said "“Now we can assume, and let's keep in mind that Senator Clinton has said she was under sniper fire, or she joked about, which to me was the cruelest part of all this, she joked about it with Jay Leno. … Imagine the lack of moral authority she has now to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier on Memorial Day.”

I think after his service to our country he has pretty much earned the right to say damn near anything he wants. But if you want to trash a decorated general, hey be my guest.

MAJOR AWARDS AND DECORATIONS:

Silver Star
Defense Superior Service Medal
Legion of Merit
Distinguished Flying Cross with 1st Oak Leaf Cluster
Bronzed Star Medal 2nd Award
Meritorious Service Medal
Air Medal 1st thru 31st Award with Oak Leaf Cluster
Army Commendation Medal, 2nd Award
Good Conduct Medal, 1st Award
Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal
National Defense Service Medal
Vietnam Service Medal
Armed Forces Reserve Medal
Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal with 60 Device
Master Army Aviation Badge
2 Overseas Bars
Republic of Vietnam Cross of Gallantry with Silver Star

Let's see... yes I could imagine how he doesn't have much but critical comments to make to Hillary's outrageous and insulting lie and trivialization of the actual men and women who have actually dodged fire for their lives in service to this country.

[Window]

25. LMAO! That is hysterical!!

:rofl:

[cali]

28. it's about time and tough shit for whiny hillary and her whiny supporters

she's been throwing the right wing kitchen sink for months. She deserves it- and much, much more.

[intaglio]

29. Errr so nobody noticed this "attack"

until Wolfson publicised it.

a-a-a-nd

This "attack" was made by two ex-military men who - sometimes, maybe - advise the Obama campaign

a-a-a-nd

The Obama campaign does not support the "attack" (see your earlier thread)

a-a-a-nd

Hillary did make the statement in question

So how is this from "Rove's playbook"? So Hillary apologised, so what? Does Georgie get a free pass for torture if he apologises - or should we still roast his ass for war crimes?

[C_U_L8R]

30. Only to a Clinton is the truth negative.

They've squirmed and been in denial about this Bosnia lying from the start.
And it was not a one-time "mistake".... that's yet another lie from Hillary's own mouth.
She repeated her lie at many campaign stops. They are all on tape.
It's certainly no smear to call Hillary Clinton a liar. It is the honest truth.

[Rene]

31. Obama shows how puny and petty he truly is whit thest tactics.

He's been using rove's playbook from the beginning. someone should file an foi...and find rove communications with bho's campaign.

[shadowknows69]

32. You're projecting again

Just in case you didn't know.

[Vinca]

34. If a person running for the highest office in the land is a pathological liar,

that's fair game. The people need to know.

[RazBerryBeret]

35. ya know what?

as an Ohioan....and the NAFTA lies that Hillary broadcast the weekend before OUR primary....the "shame on you"...

I say GoBama....

he is either criticized for being weak when he doesn't respond to her lies, or he "doesn't practice what he preaches" IMO he has done all he can to stay above the fray--if he wants to win he needs to call her out on her lies--because the LIES AREN'T STOPPING...

[2rth2pwr]

37. What other promises is he willing to throw overboard when it gets a little tough?

[anonymous171]

36. Is that whining I hear?

[grassfed]

38. "If you don't want to play, keep your uniform off," Bill Clinton

[krkaufman]

39. Didn't someone say "if you don't wanna play the game, get out of the kitchen"?

Is this more of the whining that Sen. Clinton doesn't do?

[kwenu]

40. I thought I heard that it was Hillary that said that. I could be wrong but I doubt it.

:rofl: