sellitman
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Sun Apr-20-08 10:25 AM
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Poll question: Hillary Supporters only Poll. |
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(Please vote only if you are a Hillary Supporter)
If Obama is ahead with the delegate count & the popular vote going into the Convention.
Are you ok with the Super delegates over-riding these factors and making Hillary the nominee?
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Sun Apr-20-08 10:30 AM
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Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 10:30 AM by rock
Let me point out if the situation is reversed, I'm for that too. It's the rules.
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sellitman
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Sun Apr-20-08 12:16 PM
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4. I didn't vote in this poll for obvious reasons but... |
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If Barack was behind in both factors I wouldn't want the Supers to over-ride the voters will.
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Sun Apr-20-08 12:27 PM
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I'm opposed to the whole concept of "superdelegates" for that very reason. The entire primary process usually has too many artificial controls on it. Same two states deciding. Media whores selecting who they want. DLC and corporations backing their choice. All of it engineered to coronate their choice by February.
Only problem for them was, that this time it didn't work. Now we have actually had a full primary season (or damn close to it) and the people are choosing the candidate. That choice should not be negated by party hacks who "think they know better".
Of course, the reality check for the supers is that many would face their own electoral defeat, if they did such a thing.
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Sun Apr-20-08 02:17 PM
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8. Never the less that is the rules we are stuck with |
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The consequences that the supers face are political ones, nothing else. And some are immune to this (e.g. Bill Clinton). It doesn't look like the Dem Party plans on changing this next time around.
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Sun Apr-20-08 10:40 AM
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2. kennedy/Kerry override the will of massachusetts voters already on this issue nt |
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Sun Apr-20-08 11:17 AM
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3. The Door Should Remain Open |
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That's the process. They have superdelegates for a reason, and it isn't just to "follow the will of the people," although that can certainly be the best decision. But it really depends on the whole of the circumstances, and that includes anything that happens between now and the convention.
Personally, I think if both continue to the convention without some major issue worthy of revisiting the numbers (Clinton considers Florida and Michigan just that issue-and I don't see what Obama has to fear in a revote at this point), or a major scandal rocking everyone's boat, a negotiation in favor of Clinton after her extended and resented candidacy would be a horrible mistake for the party.
In the meanwhile, she has every right to continue, even if some would say she's tilting at windmills or distracting Obama.
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Sun Apr-20-08 12:17 PM
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5. You have a forum for this on DU. You know that your poll is going to be skewed on GDP |
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Sun Apr-20-08 05:21 PM
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The key is identifying the best president among our two options. We've already forfeited margin for error when Edwards was excused and Warner passed.
If it's between Hillary and Obama my trust is with Hillary to be the superior president. If it would take super delegates to concur with me, I'm not only okay with it I would trumpet it. Sorry, but public opinion doesn't impress me, not after being exposed to it almost daily for 20+ years in Las Vegas sportsbooks.
BTW, it will never happen. There's a reason Intrade odds are lopsided in favor of Obama to win the majority of super delegates. It's been that way for a couple of months. Supers are a bright idea, a bail out window in event of an imploded candidate. We're fretting for no reason.
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Sun Apr-20-08 05:53 PM
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10. yes...if and only if.... |
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Yes, I'm ok with superdelegates overruling the people's vote if and only if there are issues about Obama that the general public is not aware of. I'm talking about issues that the GOP could use to swiftboat him so badly that there would be no contest.
Do those kind of issues exist out there? I don't know...but that's why we have superdelegates. They react to late-breaking information.
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Sun Apr-20-08 06:12 PM
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11. Didn't vote. Obama supporter. |
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I would support such a move if a strong argument could be made that Obama is unelectable. In my opinion, such an arguement doesn't exist at this moment.
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Sun Apr-20-08 06:51 PM
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12. What's Dean's current position on the Rules Committee ..... |
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and their possible vote to seat Florida and Michigan? Should they decide not to seat any delegates prior to the nomination are you asking people to at least take into account the popular vote? I ask because you said "going into the Convention". I don't want to guess, but as written that would mean before Florida and Michigan are decided on.
I don't think the super delegates should overturn an obvious winner.
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