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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:29 PM
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Wasserman Schultz in op ed pumps superdelegates' role ....fails to say she is Clinton's co-chair.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz wrote an op ed in the Miami Herald today. She talks about the role of superdelegates, praises Hillary Clinton, and says she will vote for her at convention.

I notice that nowhere in the column is it mentioned that Wasserman Schultz is a national co-chair of the Clinton campaign. She and Alcee Hastings were chosen last June.

Here is her praise of superdelegates. It boils down to knowing more Democratic leaders and more insiders, and it implies we, the everyday voters, have no vested interest in the party like she does.

A superdelegate argues party leaders' experience plays a vital role when neither nominee has a majority.

The Democratic Party created superdelegates because members of Congress were elected by hundreds of thousands of people in our districts and party leaders have vast amounts of political experience that is vital in choosing a nominee.

Almost every day, I am involved in one way or the other with functions in the Democratic Party. When in Washington, I attend caucus meetings and party briefings and talk with senior members of the party. When I am home in Florida, I meet with local Democratic Party committees, local Democratic elected officials and party activists. I have a vested interest in the success of the party, whose values and ideals are reflected in who the party chooses as its presidential nominee.

VETERAN PERSPECTIVES

I believe that I and nearly 800 other superdelegates were given this responsibility precisely because of the active role that we play in the party and the number of people that we know and talk to who have a vested interest in the success of the party.


..."In my opinion, the role of the superdelegate was created so that party leaders and experienced elected officials could weigh in when primary voters are split on who should be the party's presidential nominee and fail to give either candidate the 2,024 delegates needed to obtain the nomination.


Debbie knows more insiders than we do. She makes it clear that no matter what, she is for Hillary Clinton. That is her right, she is a superdelegate.

BUT...and this is a very big BUT.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz needs someone to tell her that the party's nominee is chosen by DELEGATES...not by the "popular vote." NOT by the electoral vote. She is among the many Clinton surrogates pushing that talking point.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz reinvents the party rules for choosing a nominee

My comments to myself after hearing her interview with John Harwood..the video of which is at the link.

Here is a video of John Harwood interviewing her in her DC office. She makes it clear that superdelegates will break for Hillary, that the campaign truly believes the Wright controversy is relevant and will use it, that there are many ways to choose a nominee...that we need to look not only at delegates....but get this:

She is using the meme that we must also look at the popular vote, but especially in the end...the electoral vote.

To the latter two I say bull hockey. The nominee will be chosen by the delegate count, the Clinton campaign does not get to rewrite the rules like that.

It is amazing how smoothly they have the words down pat. They speak so naturally of how we will choose our nominee by electoral votes.


This interview blew my mind.


I have another bone to pick with Debbie WS. She has become way too close to three of the Florida Republicans who are extremists in their views, who are enablers of the Bush administration...who do not think about what is best for Florida.

Two Florida Democratic congress folks prefer their Republican incumbents to their own party.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

''At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant,'' Wasserman Schultz said.

The decision comes as Democrats believe they have their best shot in years to defeat at least one of the Cuban-American incumbents with a roster of Democrats that include former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, opposing Lincoln Diaz-Balart; outgoing Miami-Dade Democratic party chair Joe Garcia, opposing Mario Diaz-Balart; and businesswoman Annette Taddeo, opposing Ros-Lehtinen.

But Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their ties to the three Republicans are personal as well as professional: Both served in the state Legislature with Mario Diaz-Balart and say they work in concert with all three on South Florida


She has yet to agree to go against those Republicans, even as the Democratic candidates are gaining ground.

She even told one blogger that she needed him to get the other bloggers off her back.

Damn those "activists" anyway...right, Debbie?

"I have read some of the bloggers' comments," she told me, imploring me to "please help get them off my back," as she seemed to be frustrated by the coverage she's received lately in the blogosphere.


The Miami Herald should somewhere in the op ed have given disclosure about her co-chair role with the Clinton campaign.

I disagree with Wasserman Schultz once again. I do not think superdelegates are any smarter, any better informed, or any more capable of making a decision because they know more insiders.





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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:32 PM
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1. She forgot to point out that she doesn't support other Dems running in FL because
she is friends with the Republican incumbents! :mad:
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:38 PM
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3. Maybe that's how she'd earned her other nickname "Debbie Dubya"
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 12:40 PM by 4themind
It's not just the support of the republicans , but the fact that she's a leader on the committee to turn these red seats to blue, and THESE primary candidates are on their official list!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:51 PM
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4. Not to mention her glowing endorsement of a repuke in 2006.
I wish I lived in her district. I'd run against her.

Talk about going negative.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:07 PM
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8. That was Brown Waite, I believe.
She is really being stubborn about her Diaz-Balart buddies and Ros-Lehtinen. They are more important to her than supporting Democrats.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:38 PM
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13. we ought to get video of her doing this
and play it over and over on the You Tube thingies.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:37 PM
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2. I really liked her style at one point till reading about just who she supports...
Oh Florida, whatever shall we do with you?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:53 PM
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5. And the Editor didn't print it at the bottom?
Oh, brother. The Miami Herald, "we'll print anything!".
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:57 PM
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7. I didn't see anything.
If you do, let me know.

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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:54 PM
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6. Hey Dizzy Debbie.
It's still up in the air as to whether they're even going to let you into the convention!
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:10 PM
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9. They can push the "SD's will put Hillary over the top" line but Obama may only need 1/3 of
currently undeclared superdelegates to get the nom. Forbes had a piece a couple weeks ago that projected numbers from upcoming primaries and came up with Obama needing only about 1/3 of the undeclared SD's to get the nom. http://blogs.forbes.com/trailwatch/2008/04/obamas-magic-nu.html Of course, it's just a projection but interesting for some perspective perhaps.

The Clinton campaign seems to be pinning its hopes on a massive movement of SD's to her side and so far that doesn't appear to be happening.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:32 PM
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10. Great post, mad. Keep it up.
Please forgive my momentary diversion... your subject line took on a life of its own, LOL!


'Wasserman Schultz in op ed pumps....' this image flashed through my consciousness----->






Like these?



How about these?



This woman is just beyond description. I am trying not to work up another rant about her, and here comes your thread, lol!


Please forgive me.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:34 PM
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11. LOL...
Yep those are pumps all right.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:37 PM
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12. she has two conflicts of interest
1. High position in Clinton Campaign.
2. Helping republicans get ahead in Florida.

Hasn't Florida always messed up elections?

I mean from way way back?

And with the voter id and the "no match no vote" rule, the poorer
dems and minorities won't have their votes cast or counted anyway.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:48 PM
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14. You are right about the conflicts of interest.
:hi:
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:53 PM
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15. Great post-K&R
How can a Dem support a Repub over other Dems? Doesn't she support Dem issues and values? Or is it more important to keep your personal friends in office?
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:57 PM
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16. Then why do they keep trashing superdelegates that support Obama?
The Clinton campaign insists that the superdelegates should be free to vote for whomever they want, for whatever reason they want, but when a superdelegate comes out in support of Obama, they become enraged. It is especially bad if the superdelegate was previously a Clinton supporter. Isn't this a bit hypocritical?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:11 PM
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17. Is Debbie Wasserman Schultz in violation of the Democratic Party Loyalty Oath
Democratic Party Loyalty Oath

County of ____________________________
State of Florida

I, ___________________________________, having been duly sworn, say, that I am a member of the Democratic Party; that I am a qualified elector of ___________________________ county, Florida; that during my term of office, I will not support the election of the opponent of any Democratic nominee, I will not oppose the election of any Democratic nominee, nor will I support any non Democrat against a Democrat in any election other than in judicial races; that I am qualified under the Constitution and Laws of the State of Florida and the Charter and Bylaws of the Florida Democratic Party to hold the office I am seeking, or to which I have been elected; that I have not violated any of the laws of the State of Florida relating to election of the Charter and Bylaws of the Florida Democratic Party.
________________________________________________
Signature

Sworn to and subscribed before me this ___________ day of ______________, 20_____at __________________________ County, Florida.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
She has refused to endorse and/or support the three Democratic Party candidates who are challenging the trio of ultra-right-wing Miami-Dade Republican Congressmen and Congresswoman, Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen.

U.S. Representative Wasserman Schultz has in the past received upwards of $15,000 from the US-Cuba Democracy PAC, which is a Republican Political Action Committee which distributes funds to corrupt members of Congress in exchange for their anti-Cuba votes in the U.S. House and Senate.

All county DEC's have to be in conformity with the bylaws of the Democratic Party of the state of Florida and the Democratic National Committee. I am saying that this Loyalty Oath is something that is required in every Florida County, if you are duly registered as a Democrat with the registrar of elections for your county.

I say that U.S. Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz has violated said loyalty oath
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 07:07 PM
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19. She can say she is not supporting them....just not standing against them.
That is the problem. She won't speak up against her GOP buddies who vote with Bush.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:17 PM
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18. They know her.. there's a REASON why only 1/4 of the SD jumped behind HRC
in the beginning.. They know HER too..:evilgrin:

A two term first lady and two term sitting senator should have garnered at LEAST 1/2 of the supers..right at the beginning..
(especially since she's been running ...wink-wink.. for 7 1/2 years now)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:05 AM
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20. The SDs saw what happened to Richardson...called Judas.
They see the big money men attacking the party infrastructure. They are probably today getting a look at the financial picture. I think the moving will start after PA.

I never really would have thought she would be this kind of candidate. :shrug:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:57 PM
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24. nor I
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 12:58 PM by SoCalDem
I actually liked her in the beginning.. I always felt sorry for the humiliation she put up with, and thought she was a strong person. but Shame on HER, for not seeing the handwriting on the wall, and bowing out gracefully.. It's embarrassing to me as a woman, to see her being so petty and vindictive. She is living up to (down to?) every negative stereotype we hear about women..:(
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:22 PM
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21. Like Water in the Desert--Hillary's Campaign
It's sad to see her struggle like that. But it's her choice to live inside her head instead of ours.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:39 PM
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22. post #1 is enough to piss me off at her
but beyond that, this OP news is further evidence she's a horrible congresswoman.
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:43 PM
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23. The whole SD thing is a big idiocy
Why bother voting at all in the primaries? Let them select the nominee and be over with it.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:30 PM
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25. Very disheartening
I would suggest if possible that you email the disclosure omission to Media Matters.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:12 PM
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26. lot`s of people going to be invited to the D list parties in january
i think debbie going to be one of them...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:25 PM
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27. How can Dems in FL stomach this crap?
Do they agree with these idiots or what?
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:23 PM
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28. How do dems in FL stomach such
The incredible thing is that the two male Republicans that she supports are among the 10 most conservative in the Congress in terms of voting records.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:21 PM
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32. Did you know that Castro called them his nephews? Post at Stogie's site.
http://yborcitystogie.blogspot.com/2008/04/meet-diaz-balarts-couple-of-castros.html

From what I can read, they really might be. I need to read it again.

For Debbie WS not to oppose them loudly is shameful.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:29 PM
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35. Fidel's first wife was in the Diaz-Balart family, IIRC.
Fidel was raised in an upper-class sugar cane plantation family before he decided to break with his class and lead the revolt against Batista.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:55 PM
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41. And the wealthy thought he was one of them until the priests came around
privately, warning the wealthier to get out right then, that he was not what they thought. Our neighbors for many years came over in the first wave, they were lucky.

A priest went to their home one night, said get ready to go...and led the way to get out safely.

I had a relative there as a missionary in 59. They hid in the hills, and had many stories to tell later.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:44 PM
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29. The Feralists set up the Senate to keep the rabble in line and the Party
did the same by creating the super delagates, I guess.

Might I just add as a former Floridian, that Ros-Lehtinen ( the dumbest member of congress) has no issue except for Cuba, so adios to her.

Mario Diaz-Balart is not only a relative of the MONSTER himself, but he's also a piece of crap. I remember when he was in the FLA legislature, he introduced a bill to force poor women (i.e. black women) to pay for drug tests before the could use the state's employment services. Really compassionate.

Btw, once in DC, after a long night of drinking I shared a cab with a Balart staffer who I witnessed buy crack at the 7-11 on 8th street NE just before he got in. When I found out he was working for a FLA Rep. I was able quickly go down the list and when I got to Mario, he quickly jumped out of the cab and, naturally, didn't leave a tip -- like a true Republican.



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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:31 PM
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36. "The FERALISTS"? Was that a Freudian slip?
It could've been, given that the legacy of the Federalist Party was an economic order run of, by, and for a particular feral brand of investment bankers and speculators.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:38 PM
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37. Nice one, I'll have to remember that. It's just my trouble typing, though.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:58 PM
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30. "....fails to say she is Clinton's co-chair.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 08:58 PM by Gman
as if anyone besides Obama people who's life consists of scouring for anything and everything that can in the most minute way be construed as something unethical or immoral by anybody whatsoever connected with Hillary and that can be blown to thermonuclear levels out of proportion, really cared. No one else on God's green Earth really cares.

They're going to be such a sad bunch when the George McGovern of 2008 blows up in their faces in November.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:04 PM
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31. Clinton's Florida people are acting as abrasive as she is acting.
It is a side of her I wish I had not seen.

I fully intend to keep on keeping on with this issue.

Truth matters.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:02 PM
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33. Truth may matter
but this is a truth that doesn't matter in the least.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:05 PM
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34. Yes, it really does matter.
Florida's Dem leaders lied, and Hillary is using them as a tool to win.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:50 PM
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39. The current polls prove there is nothing inherently superior in your candidate.
If she isn't running radically better now, she wouldn't be later.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:30 AM
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42. Doesn't matter
I'm just tired of the whining, crying and complaining that the Obamabots constantly do. Just like petulant children. But the Obama campaign counts on the whining, crying and complaining. It's all part of Obama's Pity Strategy.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:49 PM
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38. It's time for your campaign to stop trashing our frontrunner.
McGovern lost because people from the right wing of the party(presumably including you)kept attacking him even when it was already certain(as it was going into the 1972 California primary)that he was going to be the nominee.

There was never any chance that McGovern was going to be replaced by Hubert Humphrey or Scoop Jackson, but your wing kept bashing anyway.

McGovern didn't deserve it then. Obama doesn't deserve it now.

And your conservative candidate isn't doing any better than the polls, so that proves that dumping Obama would serve no purpose.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:51 PM
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40. And that wing of the party never lets McGovern forget how they humiliated him.
You are right. It is time for Hillary to stop the hate.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:03 PM
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45. Nope, I worked my ass off for McGovern in 1972
lots and lots of block walking, putting up signs, phone banking, etc. way back then. But then again, I was young and pretty naive back then to believe the things McGovern was promising. The guy was unelectable and he just basicly got in the way and kept a Democrat that can win from getting nominated and winning.

Kinda he same thing this year, don't you think? Just like in 1972 we had to wait until 1976 to get a Democrat into the White House, it looks here in April that we're going to have to start looking to 2012 as our next best chance to get the White House back into Democratic hands.


Stop trashing "our frontrunner"? You got a mouse in your pocket? I will not directly vote for Obama in November if he's the nominee. But Obama will benefit from the fact I vote straight party Democrat, something many, many Obama supporters here have said is absolutely disgusting in past years. IIRC, you are one of them.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:34 AM
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43. How does this compare to Donna Brazille appearing all over TV as a "neutral" DNC spokesperson?
When she is so obviously an Obama supporter?
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:35 AM
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44. Hey Floridians, Set up a challenger for this knucklehead, eh?
I swear I'll be nicer if you do it.
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