Media Alert: Clark on Larry King tonight 6/28

[Adelante]

Five minutes.

Also Today Show NBC 7:00 am EST 6/29/04 Tomorrow

[incapsulated]

1. Goody!

Thanks for the heads up, Jersey. :)

[Paradise]

2. thanks! :) nt

[Lefta Dissenter]

3. What a change

(and on Larry King, no less!) - a real discussion - they're letting him talk!!! I'm enjoying the interaction between Warner and Clark - and even Anderson Cooper had to agree with Wes!

edited for clarity

[Dinger]

60. Wonder If This Had Anything To Do With The Fiasco Last Night?

. . . being cut off, AND then deleted in a re-broadcast.
Also, wonder if our e-mails helped?

[juajen]

79. What fiasco last night? What in the world did I miss?

I must have been in a stupor. I thought I knew everything that happened last night. Just shows to go ya.

[cosmokramer]

80. Check out this thread...it will explain it all...unbelievable.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x558384

[Jai4WKC08]

4. Hee hee, just took a shot at Adelman

"members of this administration and the Policy Board said this would be a cakewalk..."

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5. Yeah..

I caught that, heh!

:)

[Dinger]

63. Yup, Wes Wouldn't Let That Old Bastard Get Away With What He Did

last night. Adleman was on Crossfire, and looked idiotic, AND was not on as much as Clark on Larry King, AND Wes was in PRIMETIME!

P.S. You know, I really would like to see how Edwards would be on t.v. now, what he'd have to say, etc., but he just isn't on. Yes, I am a total Wesley Clark supporter, but I also want to hear what others have to say. Will Edwards be on t.v. soon, anywhere?

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

101. AddledMan Exudes Slime

The contrast between that filth and a great and enlightened man like Clark could not be more profound.

[MoonRiver]

6. Have I missed him?

Just saw the message.

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7. No, the panel is still there n/t

[MoonRiver]

8. Thanks!

I love this media exposure that Wes is getting! :kick:

[Leilani]

9. He is fantastic!

Cuts to clips of Shrub....

reading a statement, & looking like a bozo as usual.

Wes is on the panel discussing political, international, & military strategies, sounding brilliant.

If John Kerry is as intelligent as I think he is, he will choose Wes.

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10. Shoshana Johnson is pretty awesome

I'm glad she is finally getting some airtime. Nothing against you know who, but we all know that a little blonde white girl is what the media wants as it's "damsel in distress". :eyes: Not that Johnson would want to be exploited that way.

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11. Wes gave her props

Said he met her last year. :)

[Nashyra]

12. Oh yeah I did not miss him

I saw an article in the Periscope section of Newsweek June 21 edition about Wes Clark, Edwards and Gephardt being the 3 on the short list. That they had been told "to clear their schedules" for the week in case Kerry wanted to meet with them privately.

[dogman]

13. Great answer

I was well equipped as a cook.

[dogman]

18. Even a better answer

F911 might be too painful for her to watch but what is the point of bringing freedom to Iraq if we are not free to see a film in this country. She truly gets it!

[Adelante]

20. Did you see the smile on Wes's face?

Just as they cut away from her remark. :D

[Scoopie]

33. I also liked Clark's answer

He hasn't seen F-911, but he "generally knows what Michael Moore stand for," said with one of those beautiful and ironic smiles!
;)

[Adelante]

19. That sure was a great answer, dog

It was also great to see her looking so well.

[JI7]

14. that's a man who speaks from experience

his handling of kosovo which put a lot of thought on how the troops will be cared for and protected is a great example. they made sure they had a plan for things such as security forces to keep the people secure and many other things with TRUE international support including resources. he learned of the culture of the peoples of the area also to make it easier to work with them.

for those who attack clark for being a military man. i would take that military man over non military guys like bush,cheney, rumsfeld, wolfowitz,perle, rice anyday.

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15. Didja notice...

All the call in questions for Clark? Even the Senator asked him one, heh.

R.E.S.P.E.C.T.

:)

[JI7]

16. yup, it was great. Warner sounds pained trying to defend Bush

pretty weak and struggling.

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17. Warner is a pretty honorable Republican

He's been a pain in the butt to this admin on more than one occasion.

[JI7]

22. yup, he is one of the few republicans i like

you can tell he really doesn't believe what he is saying when he is defending bush. if they had some idiot like the other senator from virginia he would have started in on attacking moore and other democrats when asked about moore's movie. but warner said he has an obligation to see it.

[Adelante]

29. What was refreshing

was how respectful of each other the entire panel was -- very nice.

[Scoopie]

40. So, do we all write CNN tonight and tell them

"MUCH better than that shit you pulled last night!"??

:evilgrin:

[Adelante]

50. Good one, Scoop

:hug:

[JI7]

49. right, and i read that John Warner opposed Oliver North for Senate also

i read that when oliver north ran for the senate in virginia, john warner did not support him. john mccain was another one who didn't support north in that race. they always had a certain integrity.

[Jai4WKC08]

67. Military people who knew Ollie when he was in

Can't stand him. I've found that to be true 100%, even among conservatives.

His following was always among civilians, at least until he got his radio show. He was always a real jerk who thought he was a lot more important that he was, did things he had no business doing. Not on his own--he was "following orders" but he made himself available for those orders because he wanted to be more than just another Lt Col. but without having to do the real work to get promoted. Glory hound.

[cosmokramer]

98. Ollie is an ass!

[MoonRiver]

23. People who want to know what's really going on ask the General.

Why would anybody waste time with that senile old rightwing political hack Warner when they can get the real facts from the ever articulate, thoroughly knowldgeable, and drop dead brilliant Clark.

He was awesome, as usual! :loveya:

:kick:

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26. That's not fair

Warner is no rightwing hack. He's been pressuring this admin for information on 9/11 and the war consistantly. They aren't happy with him at all.

[MoonRiver]

28. Would have never known that from this discussion.

His lips were practically glued on *'s arse.

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34. I disagree

He was doing his best to try to put some sort of positive spin on the handover without much enthusiasm. He is a Republican, after all, he can't attack Bush. But I know what a wingnut sounds like, and that aint it.

[MoonRiver]

39. Well, I don't like him and never have.

I had to listen to Warner singing *'s praises for every outrage he's committed over the last 3 plus years far too many times. Lately there have been several Senators who have expressed problems with the deteriorating situation in Iraq, but in the end they always brown nose * again. And actually I never remember Warner questioning anything about *'s handling of Iraq, but I avoid listening to Repubs so I could easily have missed it.

[Tom Rinaldo]

42. He was good about the need to fully investigate prisoner abuse n/t

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44. And the rethugs were pissed off about it, too

Wanted him to shut the fuck up.

[MoonRiver]

45. All the Repubs, including *, say that.

The fact is that the Senate leadership has done little in that direction.

[Donna Zen]

53. Agreed

What surprised me, probably because I've become so conditioned to being outraged, was how Warner really, really was appalled by the torture. I noticed a real change after that second set was shown to congress.

He may support his CiC (sic) but he does have some moral fiber.

[Leilani]

84. Because he really loves the military

He served in WWII in the Navy & then he served in Korea in the Marines. He was also Sec of the Navy for a while.

The service people always are first with him..he puts them above party.

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21. He backed off F9/11

"I think I already know what Michael Moore's point of view is!" *laughs*.

I don't blame him.

Esp. if he get's the VP nod, they will hang that old shit all over him again.

Props to Warner for saying he felt that he "needed to see it" based on it's popularity!

[JI7]

24. i don't see how that is backing off

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25. He said he wasn't going to see it

That's what I meant.

[Adelante]

27. I don't think so

He didn't say he wasn't going to see it. He did say he was familiar with Michael Moore's thinking. I can't imagine he won't see it.

[incapsulated]

30. That's what I thought I heard

He was asked if he had see it or if not, if he would. He said he would not because of the quote I posted.

I'll wait for the transcripts in case I'm mistaken, but that's what I thought he said.

:shrug:

(inside joke)

[Adelante]

31. Well, maybe I heard it wrong - we'll see

Stop that! :spank:

[Jai4WKC08]

41. I just checked my tape

He said, "I will see it, I haven't seen it, but I'm familiar with Michael Moore's views."

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43. Thanks, jai! (me wrong, Jersey right!)

Forget all the shit I just said! :D

[Adelante]

46. So, what else is new?

:shrug:

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51. *shrugs*

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

[Adelante]

56. I hate you

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59. But I love you...

Go figure.

:shrug:

:)

[Adelante]

65. I give I give

[Tom Rinaldo]

32. Geeze, I was out being a good grass roots Democrat

Attending a meeting of our newly formed Shandakan Township Democratic Party Club, and missed this. Maybe I'll stay up for the repeat, but glad to read the reports. Thanks.

[Adelante]

35. Stay up for it, Tom

It was the whole hour.

[incapsulated]

37. That's a lot more important

Than watching even Clark on tv, lol.

It'll be rerun at 12:00, though. :)

[Scoopie]

52. Hee hee...

I didn't think anything was more important than watching Clark on TV, especially when he's finally given the respect he deserves! :)

[Tom Rinaldo]

66. Well, in theory

It was more important to be active at the grass roots level of the Party, Wes would say that. In practice, uhhh, no comment...

[Nashyra]

81. Hi

I got to finish hearing it on XM radio on my way to a Michael Moore conference call. Nice to see all the Clark folks in a small area. I have not seen posted the article in the periscope section of newsweek June 21 edition where it claims that Edwards, Clark and Gephart were told to clear their schedules in case Kerry wanted to meet with them in private, and that he planned to meet with Clark after a fund raiser for Kerry. Anyone se it?

[TacticalPeek]

55. It's worth a look, or vcr.

If you do catch it, evaluate Shosanna Johnson's political skills, and as a candidate for office.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1883368&mesg_id=1883368


She's almost got the Wes knack, IMHO!

[Adelante]

58. I was very impressed nt

[Donna Zen]

36. Word of the day: De minimis

De minimis

The full expression is de minimis non curat lex. This is a Latin phrase which means "the law does not care about very small matters". It can be used to describe a component part of a wider transaction, where it is in itself insignificant or immaterial to the transaction as a whole, and will have no legal relevance or bearing on the end result.

Ah_Wes dips into the Latin today.

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38. Thank You!

That one threw me for a loop! Definately the Clark Word of the Day!

:)

[Donna Zen]

47. I had a "say what" moment

This is the second time during my many Wes listening hours when I thought he misspoken. I should know by now...if that man uses a word, it is the exact word that belongs in that exact spot.

I'm a fool for economy of language; Wes takes the concept to a whole new level.

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48. Me too

I knew it was correct, he even thought a sec before coming up with it, but it was beyond my vocabulary, heh.

I couldn't even spell it because I didn't realize it was latin.

[Jai4WKC08]

57. Nyah nyah I knew what it meant

I used to do corporate and partnership taxes for a CPA. ;)

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62. Unfair advantage!

:P

[Adelante]

54. I had it wrong

I thought it meant minimal or at minimum or some such.

[Donna Zen]

61. placing bets

The transcript will either have the incorrect word or an XXX in its place.

[incapsulated]

64. That's an intriguing wager...

Do they scramble for a dictionary or just put *unintelligible*.

:)

[Jai4WKC08]

82. Donna loses

They got it right. I'm surprised too.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0406/28/lkl.00.html

[Donna Zen]

88. Whoa!

Okay_I'll give a $100 to WesPAC. (That was easy because I gave this a.m. as part of Gert's "get well" gift! :-) ):)

[Jai4WKC08]

93. What a great idea!

I'm due to send something to WesPAC anyway.

I did make a donation to the campaign debt yesterday. I figure, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, that since his campaign is technically suspended, it's still subject to all the rules of campaign finance reform. Wouldn't that mean tomorrow is the last day we can contribute?

https://secure.clark04.com/

[cosmokramer]

76. Whaddaya expect from a Rhodes Scholar?

:bounce:

[Gloria]

68. Notice the clip of Kerry??? Punched up his speaking a bit...as he

commented on the handover....with some pointed remarks right from the Clark collection...

You know, this could be some one-two punch. What a team, hammering away at Bushco............................

[Scoopie]

69. I notice that and I also

notice coordination in their ties.

Yeah... right... I have no life, so I look for meaning in neckwear!

:crazy:

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70. If he starts..

Letting the Kerry people choose his ties, I'm going ballistic! He was wearing a yellow tie, YELLOW for chrissakes, on Fox the other night. I just know that was the Kerry camp's doing, I know it!

Stop the madness!

:silly:

[Gloria]

72. That pale green suit has to go, too....Clark is a WINTER, which means

that nice dark navy suit like he had on the King show....perfection....

[Scoopie]

73. He was wearing yellow when Kerry

was wearing salmon...
If that means anything.

Today, Kerry had on a darker mauvish-pink than the salmon and Clark had on the garnet.

Quick! We need the Queer Eye for the Straight Guy people to give us a run-down on what these colors mean!
:D

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74. Tie tonight was a Good Thing

My favorite color for his ties. My favorite color, period. :)


Yellow, never. Not for anyone! :crazy:

[cosmokramer]

78. Red... I love the red...

:toast:

[KittyWampus]

71. Coded Neck Ties?

:D

[Adelante]

75. Replay coming up in 3 minutes EST nt

[FrenchieCat]

77. Boy.,...

He looks and sounds awesome! Growing out his hair.....for that extra true Democrat flair!

I WANT WES CLARK IN MY ADMINISTRATION! I WANT TO HEAR HIM EXPLAIN THINGS EVERYDAY!

[cosmokramer]

83. I missed almost all of it!

[Jai4WKC08]

95. It's available at us4clark.com n/t

[cosmokramer]

97. Thanks!

:hug:

[Leilani]

85. That entire hour was wonderful!!!!

I watched it 3 times, cause I m in Hawaii!!!

Wes for 1 hour, with other intelligent people, having a serious discussion.

Priceless!!!!

Wes also got a bunch of questions...shows the viewers know which way is up. Only 1 brainless Bushbot called in.

[cosmokramer]

91. Excellent program, General's commentary was right on the money.

[Justice]

86. Really Good Discussion Of Many Issues

John Warner, Wes Clark, Shosanna Johnson, Larry King, Anderson Cooper and Bob Sheiffer (CBS).

The calls into the show were amazing. Most callers asked questions of Clark and Warner, and also Johnson. One caller asked about the borders question (Cooper had interviewed someone on his show earlier and the caller was asking him to repeat it. The story was how porous the borders are now, danger - someone on the LK show, this point was not coming out).

When asked what went wrong in Iraq. Clark, Sheiffer said needed more troops. Johnson said troops were well trained, the plan was bad. The troops only cared about marching to Bagdad, but they drove by ammunitions dumps and left them standing. Johnson said should have taken out dumps when they were there.

One caller asked the panel to say whether they will see F911, and if they saw it what they thought. Warner said it is his obligation/duty to see it. Clark said he hadn't seen it, but would. Johnson said it would be painful for her to see it b/c of all friends she lost. Shieffer said something which I missed, but I thought he said he wasn't going to see it, but that he would know b/c of all the attention it received - anybody else remember?

Johnson also talked about not having all the gear they needed - that she had right tools to cook, but that didn't have right gear to stop bullets (vests). Need to get right gear to military. She was a proud proud soldier-- really impressive. She is very sad, very disheartened, but proud of her colleagues.

Wes did a great job talking about Fallahuh and the trouble brewing there. This came out later in the show again, when a caller asked about it, and Cooper had to acknowledge that the city was becoming its own little taliban place.

The only comment Wes made where I wished he had been clearer, taken more time was Warner asked (he did a few times stop and say, Larry if I could just ask - and then would ask Clark a question) Clark whether the war would have gone better if troops were able to enter the country thru turkey/kurdish territory as originally planned. This was a set up IMO, trying to say it is turkey's fault the war didn't go well. Larry gave Clark no time to answer this, but Clark just said yes, things would have gone better if the troops could have gone thru turkey. This answer should have included IMO some reference to the fact that turkey was opposed to the war, as was their right.

All in all, a great discussion - no yelling, no people talking over each other (except for warner asking to ask questions of others).

[Donna Zen]

89. Troopss through Turkey

Warner was deflecting Sheiffer's critism of the troop strength, and Warner doing his GOP duty deflected to Turkey. Clark's answer of "would have helped" was too short. Considering he goes on at some length about the troops being unable to move through Turkey, and also about the build up of battlions being reckless in "Winning MW", he has plenty to say about this. It appears he made a decision on the spot that the subject was too complicated and not his hill to take for the evening.

[Tom Rinaldo]

90. It was also clear that time was running out on the show

Clark gives back a few of the many points he scores by coming across cool calm and collected if he rushes to squeeze too much content into a few seconds at the very end of an interview, so I agree with you about it being a spot decision, and it was the right one. Clark further scores points for being a true expert, rather than just a political shill when he comes across as being reasonable and not merely looking for another angle to stick a knife into Bush. It's part of what makes his such a devastating opponent to the Bush regime.

Yup, I stayed up late and caught the rerun. Twas well worth it.

[Donna Zen]

92. Whats making me smile this a.m.

The camera shot of Wes beaming while Johnson stuck a fork into bush at the very end. He quickly caught himself on the monitor and pulls down the window shade over his internal glee; but as one cyber-patriot noted: he's really quite a rascal.

[faithnotgreed]

100. donna - what did shoshanna say at the end that "put a fork in bush"?

i would love to hear that. i didnt watch the show and would appreciate hearing what she said at the end (you referenced it made wes smile)

thank you!

[Gloria]

102. Shoshona was asked about whether she would see F911...she said

she didn't know, since she had lived through some of it and it could be upsetting. However, she said that she was glad Moore had gotten the film release after Disney refused...because how can we say we're fighting for freedom if our 1st Amendment rights are taken away? (paraphrase)...Which is exactly what Clark has intimated previously (in general terms). When they cut to him, you could see he was pleased and he praised her for her service....

She was also great in explaining how the plan stunk...not securing the ammo, etc. just barreling to Baghdad and not holding territory....

[faithnotgreed]

103. right on! thank you gloria

[faithnotgreed]

104. right on! thank you gloria and THANK YOU shoshanna!!

[Sparkly]

87. Thank you for the alert

I'd probably have missed it otherwise! It was great. CNN *almost* redeemed themselves after that horrible segment with Carol Lin the night before.

[in_cog_ni_to]

94. As usual, I missed the first airing

of Larry King. I did get to catch the repeat at 11:00 and I must say, that was one of the BEST interviews ever where Clark was included! He had a lot of air time and answered the questions BRILLIANTLY, of course and everyone was very respectful of each other...very rare these days. I wish Larry King would do a 1 hour program with JUST CLARK. Shoshana (SP?) Johnson was AWESOME. I loved how she got in her little jabs at the administration. She was GREAT!

Clark's reply to the F911 question was so CUTE! That smile! <sigh> :loveya:

I missed him on the Today show. :cry: I saw that the video is available to view so, I'll be sure to watch it.

Go Wes! :bounce:

[Adelante]

99. I was worrying about you, Incog

Thinking last night that you had missed it. Glad you did catch the later showing. :)

[Spazito]

96. I missed this because of our election in Canada, the only thing that...

takes precedence over a Clark appearance for me but, THANKS to those at:

http://www.us4clark.com/mediaclips.html

I can catch it!! Thank you, thank you, thank you to those who record his appearances, I don't know what I would do without your site!