Zogby: "Clinton Edge Continues to Expand in PA"

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Monday April 21, 2008

Clinton has best showing, Obama has worst since inception of Zogby daily telephone tracking.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/NewsmaxPADay5NR%204_21_2008.pdf

[otohara]

1. Doesn't Matter

we'll know soon enough.

[Mags]

2. It only matters when BO is in the lead.

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3. True...

He seems to favor the idea of a double digit win.

[still_one]

4. In all honesty zogby has been the worst of the polls this year

That does not mean that it is right or wrong, but just because zogby says it doesn't make it so

In fact if you take zogby's poll based on his record, that is actually good news for Obama, since when zogby was calling it early on in the primaries for Obama he didn't do that well

[LulaMay]

20. because he's skewed it for Obama and been wrong! His reputation is on the line. He knows it.

[cbayer]

5. What's weird is that it is dated tomorrow.

Do you think they just made a mistake?

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13. No...it is to be released tomorrow

[Zachstar]

6. Another damn Newsmax showing?

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17. It is Zogby International

[Drunken Irishman]

7. prodn2000, I thought you disliked Zogby?

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5550690#5550895

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5546374&mesg_id=5546402

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5546374&mesg_id=5547258

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5458211&mesg_id=5458536

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5458211&mesg_id=5458398

Just last week you were laughing at people for posting Zogby polls which showed a decent Obama trend and now you're doing the exact same thing.

Change of heart?

What changed it?

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16. The only reason I posted it was because

A few people here took a quote from Zogby and tried to spin it as a HUGE SURGE!

When all along it was the opposite.

For the record Zogby is just awful. His consistent over-projection of Obama's support is laughable.

If he says Clinton is ahead by 5, it means more like 15+.

[Drunken Irishman]

22. Yes, I believe you.

That's why you posted it.

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23. I think my objections to ARG/Zogby/PPP are well documented.

[Drunken Irishman]

24. And yet in your original post, not even a hint of it.

Not a "Hey, just to show you how shitty Zogby is, look at the dramatica shift over the past day..."

None of that.

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25. Since my opinion is so widely known, I figured why be repetitive...

:P

[Drunken Irishman]

26. I don't think it is.

The only reason I know is because you were trashing the same Zogby poll posted last week. Had I not seen that one post and had that debate with you, I highly doubt I would've done you were anti-Zogby.

[Donkeykick]

8. I'm for Hillary.

But it's never over until it's over. The real poll, that will actually count, is going to be next Tuesday. :patriot:

[slinkerwink]

9. Told you guys! I told you she'd win by 12 points!

[AllentownJake]

10. None of these polls

have any clue what to predict or how to weigh voters. There were over 300,000 registrations in PA almost 8% of the electorate and they have no way of reaching these people. How likely are the undecideds to vote? Who do they break for? What will the turnout be in Philadelphia vs the Rural areas. The only data they have on PA primaries for President is 28 years old.

[BzaDem]

15. They do poll newly registered voters.

They do random calling, and ask if they registered. They don't just go off some random voter registration list from way back.

[Happyhippychick]

11. Wow. They can predict what will happen tomorrow? What stocks should I buy?

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18. Yep! Next time you go buy a magazine, Check the date.

Chances are, the issue date is going to be "in the future..."

[DemsUnited]

12. What a crock. Zogby numbers for April 19th was O 46, C 44.

And people have swung so drastically in 24 hours that on April 20th the numbers are Clinton 53, Obama 38??

Not saying that Clinton won't win by 8 - 12 points (I think she will) but I am saying that Zogby is a lame pollster.

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14. And you would be right (about Zogby)

He uses a dart board and a prepaid cell phone.

[Aloha Spirit]

19. This chart offers insight into weekend poll shift

http://www.maptools.org/cgi-bin/owtchart?type=Line&vals=15!9!7!30!14!5!20&numpts=7&SetColors=&xlabels=If%20you%27re%20a%20club%20man%20or%20a%20pub%20man%3BMaybe%20a%20jet%20black%20guy%20with%20a%20hip%20hi-fi%3BA%20white%20cool%20cat%20with%20a%20trilby%20hat%3BMaybe%20leather%20and%20studs%20is%20where%20you%27re%20at%3BMake%20the%20most%20of%20every%20day%3BDon%27t%20let%20hard%20times%20stand%20in%20your%20way%3BThe%20benefit%20gang%20are%20gonna%20pay%21&w=400&h=500&Title=What%20do%20Pennsylvania%20Voters%20Want%20in%20the%20Next%20President%3F&XTitle=What%20characteristic%20do%20you%20most%20admire%20in%20a%20president%3F&XTitleColor=&XTitleFont=&YTitle=Degree%20of%20admiration%20%281%20to%2010%29&YTitleColor=&YTitleFont=&YMin=0&YMax=40

[high density]

21. Zogby: "Kerry 311, Bush 213" - November 2, 2004 5:00 pm

[woolldog]

27. lol

you're a very brave man. :hi:

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28. As long as Zogby is overstating Obama by 10 yet again...

I will be happy!