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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:49 PM Original message |
PA: Clinton beats Obama 53-38 in Zogby's Sunday 1 day polling.... |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's over. |
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Brundle_Fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
96. OMG FN GOD. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 03:39 AM Response to Reply #96 |
108. Get a clue buddy |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't trust Zogby...but a 15 point win by Hilary would certainly |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Read the release. This post is dishonest. It's not 51-38. |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's NewsMax/Zogby, and you speak an untruth - that includes all white and Catholic undecideds |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Those are the undecideds numbers not the overall number. So the OP's claim is wrong but. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. How is it false? |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. you are wrong. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I expect an apology from you later, |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. how will what Zogby's poll stated change later? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. No he's not saying that! Can't you read? |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
81. You're reading it wrong |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. NO. YOU are reading it wrong. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Your argument's convincing... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. I'm an Obama supporter, who happens to understand |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Never questioned your support... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. I suggest you read this: |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
72. Where's my apology? |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Let's repeat it. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. IT'S A ZOGBY/NEWSMAX POLL!!! |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Name calling now, and so NewsMax is an unimpeachable source?? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. It's not newsmax as a source! |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
78. faygokid, Newsmax hired Zogby to do the poll. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
93. One day poll |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. Their Sunday polling didn't include Sunday night - only calls earlier in the day? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. She's gonna take it by 20. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. Isn't Newsmax the website that claimed they had proof of Obama in church during one of Wright's |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. It's a Newsmax/Zogby poll |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. And NewsMax is "interpreting" it. See post 21. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. No one is interpreting it. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
41. It's a Newsmax/Zogby poll. 'Nuff said. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. jen c'mon. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
77. Sorry, woolldog... |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. jenmito. I can go hire Zogby to do a poll for me. Zogby will not change the numbers just because I |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Didn't they also have photos of Hillary killing Vince Foster |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
43. I think so. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. Only polls showing Obama doing well are allowed. This poll must be fixed! |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. It's weird. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. Too bad for her that Zogby's not holding the election today |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
12. your OP is false. She is leading 53-38 among white Catholics, not among all voters. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. White Catholics who bowl, drink shots & shoot ducks? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. I think you're wrong. |
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Petey Wheatie (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. The "cling to religion and racism" gaffe and the debate have been disasterous for him. n/t |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
47. No, not really. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. Hillary voters are home all day on Sundays |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
19. . |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. IT IS NOT BS. |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. you are highlighting the wrong parts |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. AND IF YOU HAD READ THE REST OF THE PRESS RELEASE |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. gotcha - deleted post |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. I am willing to bet there are several non-white Catholics in PA. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
27. She has a narrow 3-point lead in Pennsylvania. |
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noel711 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. Go to REalClearPolitics..read the article.. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Sorry noel, but those aren't the numbers for Catholics |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. You have my sympathies. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
64. lol....thanks |
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noel711 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
83. Wooly... read the article... |
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Petey Wheatie (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
30. HOLY SHIT! But, then again, it's a Zogby poll, so....n/t |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
31. Aint gonna happen. Happy thoughts anyway, for you. Is this a positive thinking exercise? |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
33. Okay, wooldog, think about this please. |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. Read the table... |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
37. It has to be an anomaly |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
40. it`s over..hillary has won the nomination |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Those numbers are not even near a 20 point blow out |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. ahahahahahahaha!!!!! |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
105. at least someone laughed |
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aaaaaa5a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
46. Is This One Day Or A Trend...... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. exactly. thank you. there is intelligent life on DU. afterall... |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
75. That is exactly right. Plust it would be a very small sample. nt |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
48. The 53-38% is only talking about "white and Catholic voters." Here's why: |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. except that later in the press release the Catholic numbers are given |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Then how do you explain the discrepancy in undecideds from 5% to 9%? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. b/c there is a "someone else" option. |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. Youre simply wrong on this, wool, though the paragraph in question is poorly written. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
90. I'm not wrong, thank you. |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 05:08 AM Response to Reply #90 |
109. Youre right. I was wrong. |
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aaaaaa5a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. I think this is how it works..... |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
71. Keep in mind she had the NAFTA thing in her favor in Ohio. This time around |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
49. I think we can dispense with the PA polls now and simply wait for the voting. |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
51. Zogby is referring to Catholics. Read it closely. nt |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. NO HE IS NOT |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
58. Now lets do some math. If you add those numbers to yesterday's does that equal a six point lead? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
100. Umm... |
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Frank Booth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
59. I think Hillary will take it by double digits. But I think that 53-38 Sunday polling is incorrect. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
60. Here is the actual Zogby Release from today, it has 46-43 with Obama winning todays polling by 2 |
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Frank Booth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. The OP's link is dated 4/21, and shows Hillary with a 6 point lead. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Today is 4/20. What I linked is the latest info from Zogby, unless you have a flux capacitor |
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Frank Booth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. Read the doc. It's because it's set for release on 4/21. I did that all without the flux capacitor |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. top post this Steve, so the Chicken Little Crew can take a Recess? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Looks like someone just beat me to it... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
70. Less then 62% = FAIL |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
74. If it's a tracking poll then todays sample was probably very small |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Which is why he averages the two days together... |
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
80. Zogby: “If a 10-point victory is the threshold, it looks like she can do it" |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
84. How do you miss this line? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Zogby tracking poll is a 2 day moving average. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Did you read the chart? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. HOW DO YOU THINK THEY GET TO THOSE NUMBERS??? |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. So let me get this straight... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Bkln, |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Where are you getting these numbers from? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Follow the last two links in this post. |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
88. Zogby is all over the place n/t |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
91. Well we will find out soon enough--Tuesday's around the corner. |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
94. I'm pretty sure this is TRUE for the one day. |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
102. Check out this damning poll from Pennsylvania |
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johnnydrama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
106. the fact |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 03:19 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. that's a decent point. n/t |
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