Just came back from a Bill Clinton event in PA.

[rug]

He spoke 50 minutes. Smooth, solid mastery of facts. Didn't bash Obama for a moment. Consistently pointed out why Hillary is the better candidate. Point by point discussion of programs. Consistently pointed out how Republicans have dismantled the government for seven years.

Strong, effortless articulation of values that no one here would dispute six months ago.

When he was done he spent another 30 minutes shaking hands. Talked to one fellow in a wheelchair for 10 minutes.

Then he moved on to another event in Tannersville.

People should get out of GDP more often.

[maddiejoan]

1. But his penis did stuff!

and Hillary cackles a lot!

[rug]

2. There's more worth in his penis than a monthful of GDP posts.

[maddiejoan]

5. I misread that

as "mouthfull"

and got all excited.

[YDogg]

13. me too, and I didn't.

[Arkansas Granny]

15. I did the same. LOL

[rug]

19. Shame on you, Granny!

:spank:

I can understand the other two, but you?

:spank:

[Arkansas Granny]

32. Hey, I haven't always been old.

[Arugula Latte]

43. Ew.

Just ew. x(

[emilyg]

58. Why do you hate penises?

[Arugula Latte]

59. Well, this was specifically about The Clenis

Gawd knows where that thing has been ...

[RaleighNCDUer]

60. You would. nt

[monmouth]

4. Unnecessary remark, and not helpful...n/t

[maddiejoan]

6. why?

did I beat you to it?

[Maribelle]

29. :-D

I'm positive you did just that.

[Auntie Bush]

25. I'd say Bitch if you weren't a Hillary supporter. lol

[jakem]

79. and she lies, and has no integrity!

no need to harp on her shrill unpleasant demeanor!

[Petey Wheatie]

3. Gonna love having Bill as the "First Man." lol.

[rug]

8. It's astounding people are so blinded in this primary that they forget what an asset he is.

[izquierdista]

24. Was (past tense)

An asset to the big corporations outsourcing jobs and pushing NAFTA.

An asset to the Grover Norquist types wanting to dismantle welfare.

An asset to the CEOs wanting to cut salaries with H1B visas.

An asset to all the gays in the military, who were told to "just shut up and pass for straight".

And especially an asset to the health insurers, who got a free pass for 8 years, after they told him and his goof-ass wife where to go.

[rug]

33. Yeah, yeah, sure, ok.

:boring:

[Tellurian]

50. Thanks ,rug...

I know this- if you're ok with BC then all is right with the world.

And in spite of the posts as in # 21, you know in your heart of hearts, Hillary IS indeed THE ONE.

[SwampG8r]

55. is that a spelling error?

or is it supposed to be asset?

[Scairp]

86. He's great

He's a pleasure to listen to, and I am proud to say that he signed my book and shook my hand-twice! It was as thrilling as the Hillary Clinton event I went to, where she too signed her book for me and shook my hand. I was lucky enough to be up front for both of those events. If everyone could go and hear her speak in person, they would back off the nastiness and support her again, just as the so-called liberals and progressives on this site always did in the past, before Saint Barack of Obama came along. At least Obama isn't a woman, right y'all?.:sarcasm:

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[ericgtr]

7. K&R Good to see him sticking to the issues

:kick:

[AtomicKitten]

9. I know this is difficult for some to discern, but he isn't running for president.

A proxy run perhaps, but this meshing of the two Clintons into one entity is laughable, particularly when the good and bad aspects of that union are cherry-picked for maximum albeit phony effect. That kind of politics only works on the sheep.

[rug]

17. That post is especially meaningless after seeing a real campaigner talking about real issues.

[AtomicKitten]

27. Obama does have a remarkable grasp of issues and vision for the future.

The Clintons are still fighting 1990s style, and losing.

[rug]

34. I'll vote for him as Optometrist-in-Chief, OK?

[AtomicKitten]

38. Hey, whatever floats your boat! We'll take it!

:hi:

[maddiejoan]

36. Obama is a man of the future!

Here's his pic for VP!

[AtomicKitten]

40. We'll take your recommendation for VP under advisement.

:hi:

[Tellurian]

53. We're glad "they" exist to thwart the "pretender" from gaining power..

TG for that!

[AtomicKitten]

54. Best of luck on her ONLY path to the presidency - A coup d'etat.

Democrats would LOVE that as a matching bookend to the 2000 coup d'etat, forever meshing the cheese of both parties into a gooey mess.

But, hey, you keep hope alive with that UNdemocratic strategy all the way to Obama's inauguration on 1-20-09, assuming you will finally concede at that point.

[Tellurian]

63. You forget the Clintons are the only ones who have beaten the Republicans..

Obama is the most un-presidential candidate that has ever contested for the highest seat in the land. Obama is a con-man and a phony from the word go and unfit for the office he is seeking. His intentions are not altruistic. He could care less about this country and the people who are depending on the next president to roll back the Bush years and give them a better life. He is in this for himself. For the power the office holds and the power that becomes his by proxy. If you thought Bush was BAD, Obama and history will in retrospect cast Bush as a Disney character and Obama as close as we want to get to chaos.

[AtomicKitten]

64. I guess you don't realize that all your rationalizations are moot.

His delegate lead is insurmountable.

Adj. 1. insurmountable - not capable of being surmounted or overcome; "insurmountable disadvantages"
unconquerable - not capable of being conquered or vanquished or overcome;
impossible - not capable of occurring or being accomplished or dealt with;

2. insurmountable - impossible to surmount
insuperable; unconquerable - not capable of being conquered or vanquished or overcome

[Tellurian]

70. Not really..

The Clintons are not in the election to lose. As early as today, pundits said, she can win in spite of the picture painted by those skewing numbers from all media fronts. The word 'insurmountable' is inappropriate in this context. But I'll leave it to you to watch and remember you thought.."insurmountable" and it's definition, forthwith...applied..

Good talking to you again, AK..

[GoesTo11]

82. Definition of insurmountable

Good point. Capable of being surmounted. Of course it's capable of being surmounted until it's over 2024, even if unlikely.

If you mean unlikely say it, but saying insurmountable -- complete with definition and then not matching that definition -- won't convince anyone of your points.

Worse still is "mathematically impossible" when what you mean is "still mathematically possible" (which implies unlikely).

[Lucinda]

74. HE CANNOT WIN without the supers either.

No matter how much you post the same thing over and over. :rofl:

[AtomicKitten]

91. and if you believe the SDs will oblige Clinton and overrule Obama's lead

then you'll need a big sip of kool-aid to get over the disappointment of your dreams of a coup d'etat dashed. But, please, I implore you, take comfort in asserting your dream over and over because that kind of impotent haughtiness is fun to point and laugh at.

:hi:

[Lucinda]

93. LOL...You crack me up.

Hillary will be the nominee.
Bookmark it. The SD's will not take a chance on O.

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[Tellurian]

83. You never learn do you?

your last attack went into the dustbin and I imagine the same will be the fate of your latest attack.

[Nedsdag]

87. I guess you didn't take your medication after all.

You need to.

[Tellurian]

94. Perhaps a memory course would help your affliction.

[JFN1]

10. How many people showed up at this event?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[rug]

22. About a thousand in a town of 1,100.

[maddiejoan]

45. and the other hundred?

why do they hate America?

[rug]

48. Shooting squirrels while sucking lemons.

[maddiejoan]

49. bitter Klingons

[Lucinda]

75. OMG

:rofl:
:thumbsup:

[rug]

26. About a thousand in a town of 1,100.

Well, since this is a dupe, I may as well add he was there with Gov. Vilsack and Rep. Jackson-Lee.

[JFN1]

30. Got any pics?

What town was the event in?

[rug]

35. Milford, PA in Pike County. My kids got a ton of pics on their phones, from about 9 feet away.

I'll ask them if they can upload them. I know I can't.

[noel711]

11. HOw many folks showed up?

[JFN1]

20. Great question!!

I wonder if we'll get an answer...

[grantcart]

14. thanks for your report

[Straight Shooter]

16. Thanks, rug.

That's a nice note on which to exit from DU tonight.

:hi:

[Ilsa]

18. If he didn't bash Obama, then you canbe sure that no part of his

speech will be on the news, on CNN, on MSNBC, etc. The tv media (especially C. Gibson and G. Stephanopolis) doesn't care about "clean" conduct. They only want to bring gossipy, emotionally-charged speeches.

[oregonjen]

21. I've posted this pic before, but this is why I don't trust Bill

The company that he keeps makes me sick. I don't want a Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton dynasty.

[rug]

39. It;s a silly game.

Make no mistake. There is no Clinton or Obama who supports Bush.

[Emit]

23. I saw him in January, and shook hands with the man

I posted about it here:

He delivered an intelligent, reasoned and persuasive argument as to why Hillary is the best candidate.

He made no outlandish comments; no faux pas.

He looked good. Healthy, refreshed and strong.

He talked quite a bit about Hillary's health care plan, weaning ourselves from oil dependency, and renewable energy, particularly in relation to her proposed plan creating jobs. He also discussed her economic plan, issues related to the mortgage loan crisis, national debt, foreign policy, Iraq and Iran. He spoke to her 35 years of experience, giving specific examples as it relates to the criticism of her as 'status quo' (my interpretation, not his words).

I remain undecided -- and he was definitely talking to undecideds, from the tone of his speech. There were many of us in the audience by show of hands.

I have until next Saturday to decide. I'm hoping to catch Edwards this Wednesday - I'd like to hear him in person. All in all, at a minimum, I am now leaning toward Clinton over Obama.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2675554

[rug]

42. He's a remarkable politician. I support Clinton in the primary by far, but there's no wrong choice.

[Arkansas Granny]

28. I love to hear him speak. He has the ability to explain issues and policies

point by point, in plain English, in a manner that informs you without talking down to you.

[saracat]

31. Bill is always a marvelous speaker.It is odd how many forget that.Obama can't even hold a candle to

Bill Clinton in oratory. He is brilliant and has a command of language and facts that is unparalleled. Clinton always factually illustrates everything he says.He never delivers an "empty speech" and yet does so in a manner that people can understand. Whether one likes him or not, Clinton could sell ice to Eskimos.Even his fiercest critics agreed with that.And he genuinely loves people and has a warmth that Obama lacks. There will never be a politician to compare with Clinton.

[goclark]

41. I certainly agreed with that until Carolina ~

[Ikonoklast]

44. And what is BILL Clinton running for, exactly?

Hillary is either running on her own merits, or is running a campaign based on a 'co-presidency' with Bill against Obama. Which is it?

And fuck Bill Clinton after he signed NAFTA. He sold Labor down the river for thirty pieces of silver.

[rug]

51. What's Casey running for? Seems to me they both made thoughtful choices.

[karynnj]

81. I disagree - Clinton is articulate, charming and charismatic

but RARELY if ever eloquent - he wasn't even in the 1990s. I actually think that Obama is likely a more genuinely caring person than Bill Clinton is - Clinton made people think he cared.

[cliffordu]

37. Perhaps we should just elect him and get it over with.

[Bunny]

46. Thanks rug.

I love Big Dog. :thumbsup:

[journalist3072]

47. Off to the Greatest Page with you...thank you for sharing

Earlier today, I was on a C-span site, watching a video of President Clinton at an event from over the weekend...and he was just simply amazing.

Laid out the case for Sen. Clinton just brilliantly...and he did it with the facts.

He's amazing and awesome!

[Armstead]

52. Most people don't have problems with the "good" Bill Clinton

It's the other one who gives us indigestion.

[Tellurian]

57. His personal life has nothing to do with us..

with all that he accomplished, he still ran the country in our best interest, in spite of the persecution he was under by Republicans during those 8 yrs. Bill Clinton is a True phenomenon and the man from "real" Hope, AK.

[Armstead]

61. I wasn't referring to his personal life

I was referring to the Bill Clinton who misrepresents, bends and avoids the truth on a regular basis.

[Tellurian]

69. Poppycock..

[RaleighNCDUer]

62. NAFTA was in our best interest? Telecom deregulation was in OUR

best interest?

Got a republican mouse in your pocket?

[Tellurian]

68. No I don't..

I do know 15 yrs later, they can see the deficiences and defects in NAFTA that has been the cause of US job loss. Hillary has said she will restructure NAFTA for the benefit of US Workers.I have no reason to doubt NAFTA cannot be a benefit to all if it is restructured properly.

[emilyg]

56. K/R

[LadyVT]

65. K/R--thank you

[DawgHouse]

66. Thanks for the update!

[philk17088]

67. Bill?

What's he running for and why should we care how HE spoke?

[shayes51]

71. I recently saw him speak in Birmingham.

Thanks for the post.

[Jamastiene]

72. K & R

[Blarch]

73. Bill Clinton is such a tool...

that he had the nerve to paint Obama as the 'establishment candidate' http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-15-bill-clinton-nevada_N.htm

Unreal, the guy is a idiot.

[rodeodance]

78. Obama is a phony--He IS an establishment candidate

[rodeodance]

76. Thanks. and REC

[bowens43]

80. It's not possible for him to have spoken for 50 minutes

about hillary is better.

[blm]

84. Why did he publicly defend Bush during his summer2004 book tour if he didn't like how he governed?

Hillary2008.

[PinkTiger]

85. K & R!!!!!

:kick:

[stray cat]

88. Is he running for president?

[Catherine Vincent]

89. That's the Big Dog I know.

:kick:

[EFerrari]

90. Six months ago people were still willing to make excuses for him.

And I like the way he pegs the dismantling of our government to coincide with his leaving office.

[yourguide]

92. And rug, if that's how they had handled the whole campaign...

I would have zero problem with her being the nominee. It's a shame they just started doing this.

[zulchzulu]

95. I saw a Bill Clinton CSPAN event in Millvale, PA and all he did was trash Obama

He's delusional. He lies. He lost.

:rofl:

[newcriminal]

96. I watched that rally

and he wasn't trashing Obama.You're delusional.