Many Hillary supporters if they will admit it....

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

support her mainly because she is a woman and by God if she doesn't get the nomination they will not vote for the man that has beaten her. That is as sexist as you can get.

I prefer Barack, not because he's black, not because he is a man, but because of his campaign, the excitement I see for him from the young (who are the future of the party), the fact that he was against the Irag war before it started. I believe his the better candidate because much of his monetary support comes from individuals like me. I think that he is much more electable than her.

Hillary's negatives nationwide have always been over 50%. That is not because of Obama, I think much of it is baggage from Bill's presidency. She was the presumed victor and yes the MSM did look at her campaign more negatively. They would have been more critical of Barack's if he had been the presumed victor. That was not his fault. She ran a disorganized campaign, did not make plans for the other primaries after Super Tuesday, this was not Obama's fault. Her staff has been at each others throats. That is not Barack's fault. She is losing because she raised a lot less money than he. She depended on party fat cats, and he depend mainly on individuals that give about $100 a pop. That is not Barack's fault. Much of the Clinton anger needs to go to a poorly strategized campaign, a warring staff, and money spent unwisely. Again this is not the Obama campaign's fault. Her use of the internet to organize was juvenile compared to his well organized campaign. Not Obama's fault.

For a democrat to vote for McCain or sit out the GE if their candidate does not get the nomination, reminds me of the sixth graders I teach. If they get mad at each other they want to take their ball and go home. It is immature, juvenile behavior, that I expect to see from preteens not adults during one of the most important elections in our lifetimes.

If Hillary, who I think was a much better candidate until she went negative, is the nominee I will support her as I have Barack. I will make phone calls, go door to door, and give each month as I have to him.

Things have been said from both sides that are regretful. I have heard Hillary say some of those things, I have not heard Barack put her down as she has put him down. Yes surrogates have but you haven't heard it from him. Her negativity has cost her votes.

Let's pull together after the nomination is decided and win in November. Our children's and grandchildren's futures depend on it.
I am an aging hippie and I am sorrybushcamefromtexas

Peace :hippie:

[Erin Elizabeth]

1. Don't be sorry...

Bush is just a faux Texan anyway.

It's real simple for me--I think Obama will make the better president, period. It has nada to do with skin color, what kinda junk they have in their pants, who their parents were, what they were doing when they were eight, blah blah blah. It's about competency, which encompasses a whole world of other skills and assets. Obama's got it, tons of it. Clinton does not.

That's all there is to it for me. The right wing must be pretty disappointed it won't be Clinton. I know they wanted her pretty badly.

[Tellurian]

15. I don't believe that at all..

Hillary has been grooming herself for this position for years. She is the most qualified candidate for the job unlike the "pretender" with his extensive library of wishes and dreams.. The Bamboozler, the longer he runs the more people's eyes are opened to the pitiful shell of a politician, who has never delivered a thing to anyone but himself.

[Erin Elizabeth]

25. I haven't seen a single shred of evidence of this:

the longer he runs the more people's eyes are opened to the pitiful shell of a politician, who has never delivered a thing to anyone but himself

I find the grooming herself for this position for years line to be creepy.

[dchill]

26. "the longer he runs the more people's eyes are opened"

Oh, yeah, I've seen that in the results of ALL the polls and primaries. :sarcasm:

[roguevalley]

30. so sad

[Umbram]

36. "Hillary has been grooming herself for this position for years." Looks like she needs 8 more years

to practice.

[IsItJustMe]

2. I have been thinking along the same lines for quit some time now. It seems to be a very superficial

thing to base your vote on, but that is America.

[DerekJ]

3. May I be rude and say that the criteria by which Americans choose their candidates are fucked up.

And that you (Americans) really need to sort out your priorities.

[IsItJustMe]

17. Yes, you may be rude when it is a truthful observation. We have elected a moron twice in the last

eight years. People here base there vote on the most trivial and petty reasoning. There is no way in hell that I can even begin to explain it, except that I believe that our media has had an undue influence in it all.

It's almost as if most of this entire country's voters are under some type of dastardly trance or something. It's not good, and I am praying that it will not take a rude awakening call (depression, a complete suspension of our civil rights, etc...) for the people of this country to wake up and take control of our destiny before it is too late.

This we shall see.

[boppers]

4. They can't admit it, though.

Admitting to their own sexism seems to be a problem for them.

[Petey Wheatie]

5. Not me. I support her cuz she's a tank...and Obama's a tricycle. n/t

[undeterred]

6. That's simply absurd.

She's a republican who repels millions of people and Obama's a progressive who is loved the world over.

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

7. not flaming but please answer

Petey Wheatie

Will you vote for Barack if he is the candidate, I appreciate your passion for your candidate in the primaries.

What about the GE if and probably when she loses the nomination.

[Petey Wheatie]

9. I will vote for Obama. n/t

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

12. nicely said

I hope that the nominee is known as soon as possible and we can concentrate on McBush.

[aquart]

39. I will vote for the DEMOCRAT.

I do not participate in the cult of personality currently sapping the intelligence of DUers.

[SoFlaJet]

13. So Petey

who will you support if Obama is the dem nominee in November?

[cali]

14. how come the tricycle is outmaneuvering the tank and

has consistently done so?

[TahitiNut]

42. I seem to recall another tank ... four of them, actually.

[DesertFlower]

8. i will vote for hillary if she is the nominee. nt

[SoFlaJet]

10. damn good post from a true democrat

who is calling it like he (and I) see it. The Clinton supporters here and on some of the blog sites are quick to blame Obama for doing exactly what she has and still is doing; attacking him. The truth be told she IS doing it a lot more than he is. Take that sham of a debate last week-he could have hammered her on Bosnia but chose instead to say that it's too bad that this stuff is so often focused on INSTEAD of the real issues. She, OTOH went right after him any chance she got. THAT kind of politics is what turned me away from her after my guy dropped out (Edwards). Like you though my Lone Star friend I too will support whoever is the democratic nominee.

[bettyellen]

11. many support Obama because he's very good looking though- seems like a cool guy

there's been plenty enough threads about what a hottie he is.
I agree with you, this seems to be the most superficial race ever.

[Yael]

19. Can you separate the two?

Because I have yet to see a single person here say that is the reason they support him.

Please provide evidence of this.

[bettyellen]

28. LOL, you haven;t seen the gushing threads- there's one every day about a hot pic of

the man. of course no one's going to say it matters. just like no one admits disliking hillary for being an old hag, or pardon me- shrill old post meanapausal hag. did you miss those post about hillary's looks too?
stuff like that has no effect on anyone. LOL. of course not. we're better than that.
i wish.

[dbonds]

16. I would love to see a woman president, just not THAT woman.

Being female I know how it is running into sexism. I want to see that gone. But Hillary is not close to the best we have to offer.

[Yael]

18. They played the wrong hand

Not only is ONLY voting for her because she is a woman sexist, it is going to set back viable female politicians who will now need to frame their every move to distance themselves from how she ran her campaign lest they are compared to her.

Its toxic.

[mcctatas]

20. I agree...

I would love to see a viable woman candidate again in my lifetime, but since Hillary was under the assumption that the only way for a woman to win is to be more hawkish, more authoritarian and downright prickish (you know, like a man;) )she may have blown it for women for another 200 years, and no matter how good I take care of myself, I won't be around for that...

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

23. I am a teacher and have seen many women principals

think that they had to prove they had balls just like a man. They should be who they are. This is not intended to be sexist in any way just an observation from an aging hippie.

:hippie: :hippie: :hippie:

Peace
I am sorrybushisfromtexas

[bettyellen]

31. not intending to be sexist but is.... women should act like what YOU think women should be like.

we're a diverse lot, but thanks for the pigeonholes!

[NJmaverick]

21. You pretty much nailed it, well done

[GoldieAZ49]

22. admit that Obama's support is because of race

then it might be worth reading past your first sentence.

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

24. I admit that Barack's popularity ..

is high among most black african americans. Hillary's support is high from many women. I am a white man, age 58, and the least sexist person in the world. I clean toilets, wash clothes, go to the grocery story, just like my wife does. I respect her decisions like she does mine. By the way she is a woman for Obama. I was not flaming Hillary. I will gladly vote for her if she is the nominee.

The only people I have personally heard in Texas being sexist about Hillary has been white women and white men of the Republican party. Bitch, is their favorite, adjective. I take up for her every time I hear crap like that. There is no place for that. I have heard a lot of racial slurs from the same people about Barack. They are usually lower middle class and are Rush fans.

[Yael]

27. I can't wait for Tuesday...

[Ronnie]

29. 'Many' is a weasel word.

It doesn't say anything. For example: Many people who post on this site have no idea what they are talking about. See how that works? BTW, I learned that in high school. Haven't they taught that in your high school yet?

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

32. Teach 6th grade Science

Point well taken. More than a few, is that any better.



It is funny that not one Hillary supporter said anything about my points about her campaign.:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[goldcanyonaz]

33. So, you're a man who supports another man. Hmmm, interesting, NOT!

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

34. I didn''t say it was women voting for Cllinton because

she was a woman. I said Clinton supporters. I think it would have been a great time to nominate a woman.
If it wasn't for Obama and his well run campaign I would be a strong supporter of her. Her campaign was run very poorly and I think she thought she was the nominee and had it locked up and he didn't have a chance.

I wish one Clinton supporter would have at least looked at my premise that she had a poorly run campaign.

Only one replied they would vote for the nominee whether it be Clinton, or Obama.

They have attacked the post because I used the word Many. They attacked it because I was a man. (Only half a man now, I am own my 5th life, I had the same cancer as Lance Armstrong twice and have had to have two brain surgeries. ) At least I am still a kicking and able to give my opinions.

[BlooInBloo]

35. The only thing worse than silly Clinton supporters is silly Obama supporters.

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

37. If you were refering to a silly Obama supporter

I had testicular cancer when I was 31 and 43. I had two brain surgeries for blood clots on my brain in December 2007.

That makes me silly? Hopefully you were not referring to my last post.


AND IF YOU WERE.
I forgive you because that is the kind of person I am.
I have learned to only sweat the big stuff, trust in God, and love my wife and family more everyday.


Peace
:hippie: :hippie: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :hippie: :hippie:
I am an aging hippie and I am sorrybushisfromtexas

[BlooInBloo]

40. No, what makes you silly is what you said in the OP....

... Grats on making it through the various maladies tho!

[aquart]

38. What a completely idiotic set of suppositions.

Stop projecting your cranky, whiny baby attitude onto us.

And I'm sorry that the spectre of growing old is so awful to you that the image of YOUTH is your reason for voting.

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

43. What are you talking about.

I am not cranky, I am only 58, I teach everyday. I volunteer with a boys' group at church, work with girl's softball, have way too many meetings and enjoy the hell out of every day.I have a wonderful wife, two great kids, a great daughter in law, and the world's best grandkids.


The youth are our future and I have never ever seen them so excited about an election.

I vote because that is what my mother and father taught me to do.

I am a democrat because we care.

I don't flame because it is not polite.

I don't get mad when people are passionate about their candidate. Way too much personal rancor in here. I wasn't whining, please answer my suppositions about Clinton's poorly run campaign. By the way I think she is a good candidate, he is just better.

[TahitiNut]

41. "the man that has beaten her"

That's an interesting way to phrase it. (One must wonder if that's the subliminal equivalence.)

:eyes: