Has anyone heard that Kerry isn't fond of Edwards?

[Skarbrowe]

OK, this is my first main post, and I did notice a few Kerry/Clark posts here, but I wanted this to be separate. Only because it really bothered me and I'm not sure I even heard it. I've been down with the flu from literal hell. But, I can swear I heard that Kerry is a little begrudging, to put it lightly, that Edwards has not put in his "time" in the service of government long enough to be the type of VP Kerry wants. I got the feeling they were hinting that Kerry didn't like the idea that he had to wait so long and be in the Congress for years before making it almost to the top and the this young whipper snapper could be a heart beat away from the Presidency with not even a completed Senate term.

Did I dream this? If not, this really makes me think Kerry might lean toward Gephart. Someone who knows Washington and politics inside out, can bring in some of the midwest and unions and has that solid, steady, political history and wisdom. Plus, Gephart might have helped "give" Iowa to Kerry. Did I dream that?

Anybody hear any of this? I think Gephart is a great and good man, but I think Kerry/Gephart might be a snooze ticket. Again, hope I'm wrong.

Skarbrowe

[incapsulated]

1. You didn't dream it

This story has been going around for a while.

Whether you believe it or not is entirely subjective because there is no evidence other than articles, rumors and unidentifed sources.

I will remain mum, since I don't like getting into this.

[Skarbrowe]

8. Not happy

I'm not happy if it's true. Although it is understandable on Kerry's part. My eye is only on the prize of a winning ticket. It would be nice if they were best buds, but let them get int the WH first.

Skarbrowe

[H2O Man]

2. No, that's not it .....

Karl Rove had placed a rumor with a right-wing CNN reporter named Bob Novac that Kerry and Edwards are engaged in a homosexual relationship. The democratic party responded that Kerry was not fondling Edwards. Rumors like the one you posted do little good for the Democratic Underground, and Rove & friends will be upset if their lies are not accurately reported.

[Skarbrowe]

9. I told you

I might be hallucinating. But, heck, how could I fail to correctly repeat a perfectly sound Rove and friends lie.???

Skarbrowe

[JI7]

3. some people "want" to believe it

kerry and gephardt are good friends, but it has nothing to do with edwards. they just have known each other a long time.

kerry and edwards get along well. kerry likes edwards' wife very much.

the media tried to turn some criticisms against each other in the primary into something else claiming they don't like each other. they never said this until kerry and edwards became the 2 major candidates left in the race.

[Skarbrowe]

10. Good point

And I do remember hearing the Republican crap about Kerry supposedly saying he deserved the Presidency because all of his other S&B brothers had gone on to get their big piece of the world pie. Paraphrasing. Unfortunetaly, I thought there could be a bit of truth in that one.

I will be voting Kerry/Anybody! And helping to get out the vote!

Skarbrowe

[Bucky]

4. Like Clinton & Gore, or LBJ, Humphrey, & JFK, they have their differences

Pols are prima donas for the most part, even our faves like Clark, Kucinich, & Dean. They tend to have lived their professional lives posing, positioning, and being pampered by staff. It's as likely an occupational hazard as black lung is for coal miners (altho clearly not as dangerous).

So it only makes sense that there'd be personality clashes between top dogs Kerry & Edwards, the last two strong finishers in the vote. From some sources they're said to have poorly matching personal styles. This may be a cultural thing--I'm a southerner and I really can't quite warm up to Kerry no matter how right he votes. He tend to speaks about decorum where Edwards speaks about values.

This "cultural" difference could be one reason why Kerry is insisting on keeping Gephardt on the short list--despite there not being really any compelling reason to give him the #2 spot. Kerry just likes him. So be it. I'll defer because, frankly, it's Kerry's choice to make. If he wants a snooze ticket, it's his right to pick it. I'd vote for him even if he picks Dick Cheney as his running mate.

[incapsulated]

5. Now, that's going too far...

Cheney? How long would Kerry live? :crazy:

[Skarbrowe]

11. Absolutely!

It is Kerry's right to pick the guy, we know it ain't a girl, that he feels most comfortable with and who "he" believes will help him the most. Gephart may not be exciting to me, but he might be to others and I will still vote for them regardless.

Skarbrowe

[TexasSissy]

6. I got that impression during the nomination campaigning.

Kerry was caught on mike saying something like, "Why does that guy think he can be President? He can't even win his own home state." That's a pretty derogatory comment, not the sort that he would've made about another opponent he liked and respected.

But maybe Kerry has changed his mind. Who knows. But looks like he'll probably pick someone he feels comfortable with, is friends with, and who he trusts completely. Doesn't sound like that is Edwards.

But I'd be delighted with Edwards....or anyone who helps us win. That is all I care about at this point. We need to win. So Kerry should pick someone who doesn't hurt us, and who actually helps us, if possible (and is someone he's comfortable with).

[incapsulated]

7. Yeah

I forgot about that remark. Make of it what you will...

*backs out of thread*

[Skarbrowe]

13. Hmmm

All I can honestly say is, anybody but Bush and hope for the best.

Kerry does not fill me with enthusiasm. I was dumbfounded when he took the primaries. Now, I realize he does appear to have the best chance of keeping in the game, like this large elephant waiting back in the bush (LOL) to come charging out when he and his advisors think it's time to charge in. It would be nice for us as voters to get that big kick of energy and newness that someone like Edwards could bring to the ticket, but maybe they know something we don't. Personally, I think with Bush keeping neck and neck with Kerry in the polls, even though Bush has run the country into the ground, having someone who psychologically could energize the base ( oh, this is why I had once wondered if Kerry was an egoist and wouldn't want a VP that out-shined him ) would be a very useful thing to put Kerry up a few points in the polls. But, again, maybe they know something we don't, like magical little indictments falling from the air. Sorry, that IS rumor mongering. Just wishful thinking.


I want Bush gone!

Skarbrowe

[surfermaw]

17. But he is going to win his home state for Kerry

[Darkamber]

12. This rumor is pretty much stirred by the press.

Face it they want drama and something to sell. There is no doubt that Kerry is more comfortable with Gephardt. They have known each other for years and are good friends. And Kerry made a few off hand comments about Edwards during the Primaries. But I've also heard rumors that they have warmed up to each other more since the Primaries.

Iowa I think would rather have Vilsack or Edwards as VP if you base it on the recent Iowa convention.

Kerry/Gephardt is a safe and secure ticket with years of service and dedication to this country. I'm not sure if will draw Independents or Swing Republicans but it is a very safe ticket. And Gephardt is a fine man.

[Skarbrowe]

15. Gephardt is a fine man.

And I apologize if I keep mispelling his name. If I knew that Bush could not in any way steal this election, I would be damn proud to have Gephardt as VP. I've never heard a bad thing about him.

Just election year jitters, that's all.

Skarbrowe

[Skwmom]

14. Since this has been pushed by the corporate media

beholden to the GOP, I think it's just more spin to try to paint Kerry in a negative light.

[VOX]

16. From here on, in any Edwards thread, just say "Hi" in the subject line...

We certainly know where you stand, and it will save you the hassle of typing, re-typing, re-re-typing, and re-re-re-typing "pushed by the corporate media" and "channeling dead babies."

If indeed Edwards should wind up on the ticket, can we still count on your support as a loyal Democrat?

[liberalpragmatist]

18. I've heard it and I don't really believe it

If you look at Edwards and Kerry together, the chemistry is there. Ideologically, they are close, and other accounts say Kerry gets along quite well with Edwards' wife.

That said, I agree that they're probably not best of friends. Kerry is personally much closer to Gephardt, which is why Gephardt's attracting so much interest from Kerry. He also truly connects well with Vilsack and to a lesser extent, Clark.

So Kerry and Edwards aren't soul mates. Big deal. My guess, and this is backed up by other media sources and anecdotal evidence, is that they get along fine, nothing lovable, but no enmity and plenty of friendliness and cordiality.

I think Kerry's supposed reluctance to put Edwards on the ticket has more to do with Edwards' political inexperience. Kerry truly values a history of service, and he's not sure Edwards is ready to be President should something happen to Kerry. Personally, I still hope he picks Edwards.

[JohnKleeb]

19. not sure if its true or not, what I can tell you is that Kerry's good pal

Ted Kennedy is a good friend of Edwards.

[tishaLA]

20. Interesting that you say that

Tweety laughed in the face of a Republican on his show for talking about Kerry and Kennedy being good friends and told the pug he didn't know what he was talking about. Now, I know Tweety's veracity can be questioned, but he said it so definitively, and this was when the republican spin machine was trying to tether Kennedy to Kerry, that it made me believe Tweety was right and the right wing spin was wrong. Kennedy, I think Tweety said, was helping a colleague from Mass. and could activate the party base during the primaries and that was more or less the extent of it.

But I might be wrong.

[JohnKleeb]

21. Its my belief from what I read that if Kerry wasnt in the race

Kennedy would have been a Edwards supporter. I don't think they're good friends but friends none the less.

[Bombtrack]

22. You're wrong. Edwards will have a complete senate term by the time

Kerry is inaugurated.

[IndianaGreen]

23. I hear that a lot!

But it is always in DU from people that are advocates for someone else as VP.

I don't believe any of it!

[JI7]

24. you said it

and notice it started just around the time kerry pretty much had the nomination wrapped up and the talk moved from who will be the nominee to who will be vp.

[Eurobabe]

25. Kerry/Gephardt, I have narcolepsy already

n/t