Obama says McCain as Pres better than Bush -kills Dem Campaign for General's McCain is Bush 3rd term

[papau]

Obama praises McCain helping his candidacy by taking off the table the "McCain is just the Bush 3rd term" argument for the general.

Indeed it undermines Obama's chance of winning if he is the nominee.

Wonder if there will be the same outrage on DU as there was when Clinton spoke the obvious truth that McCain was experienced.

READING, Pa. - Democrat Barack Obama, who often argues that John McCain is the same as President Bush, said Sunday that the Republican presidential candidate would be better for the country than Bush has been.

"You have a real choice in this election. Either Democrat would be better than John McCain," Obama said to cheers from a rowdy crowd in central Pennsylvania. Then he said: "And all three of us would be better than George Bush."

The comment threatened to undercut Obama's efforts — and those of the entire Democratic Party — to portray the GOP presidential nominee-in-waiting as nothing more than an extension of Bush's unpopular tenure. At the very least, it provided fodder that Republicans can use in the general election to prop up McCain.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080420/ap_on_el_pr/obama

[mcctatas]

1. If that's all it took then he must have reanimated it and killed it

again after Hillary's dumbass "I have the experience, senator McCain has the experience, all he (obama) has is a speech he gave"...

try again, next new dumbass clinton meme in 5,4,3....

[papau]

4. experience has been conceeded by the press to Clinton and McCain - Obama sells "change"

[mcctatas]

28. ...

Hillary has had exposure, totally different animal than experience. As far as McCain goes, his experience and so-called maverick ways will be put under a microscope when we finally have a nominee...

Sells change, well it looks like more people are buying what he's selling than the tired old good old boys shit hillary is offering...

[jordi_fanclub]

40. BTW, Obama sentence was an lapsus linguae; the same article also states...

Earlier, Obama renewed his criticism that McCain offers the same "failed" policies of the Bush administration on everything from Iraq to the economy.

"We cannot afford a third George Bush term and that's what John McCain is offering — a third Bush term," Obama said, repeating a line he's said at virtually every campaign stop since McCain wrapped up the GOP nomination last month.

[doublethink]

2. Dude my 3 year old nephew would make a better Pres. than Bush.

And I doubt I'd get much disagreement on that. So what was it you were saying?

[QC]

3. He never misses a chance to throw some sweet talk at the Republicans.

It wasn't enough to sing the praises of Reagan and Poppy Bush--now he has to send some love to McCain.

[papau]

7. Latest is that Obama Health care promise was not for a bill but to push for "hearings"

[mcctatas]

8. ....

That means he has to take Hillary's sloppy seconds in the case of McCain....
Do you just ignore every silly thing she says in order to get through the day, or is it willful denial?

[QC]

15. I try to ignore both of them, when I can.

Otherwise I get depressed thinking that these two timid corporate centrists are the best our party can do.

I do enjoy, though, watching the faithful try to convince themselves that these people are Eugene Debs and Mother Jones all rolled into one, rather than Wall Street's handmaidens.

[mcctatas]

17. I concede the point that there were better candidates to be had

earlier on (Edwards for one), but I have to think that either of these "timid corporate centrists" is better than crazy, angry, flip-floppy John McCain...

[QC]

22. Well, sure, but...

getting beaten half to death is probably better than being boiled in oil, but I'd rather not experience either of them.

Our primary process nearly always eliminates the best candidates right away and sticks us with the weakest. This year is typical in that regard. I think it is time to re-evaluate a process that screws us over every time, instead of trying to put lipstick on the pig by pretending that the dismal set of candidates that process gave us are the best thing since peanut butter and jelly.

[mcctatas]

24. Can we wait until after we beat McCain?

pretty please? :)

[QC]

37. Sure. I would love to see us beat McCain. n/t

[BlueIdaho]

27. What a load of cobblers.

[trof]

5. I call bullshit.

[Oleladylib]

6. Yea, well if he thinks that he probably will get a least 4 years to find out.

[anonymous171]

9. omg gotcha! You're not helping your case.

[MannyGoldstein]

10. Clinton Said That McCain Had Passed 'The Commander-In-Chief Test'

While Obama had not.

If that ain't a huge endorsement of Obama over McCain, I don't know what is.

[dbonds]

11. My cat would be better than Bush.

Just because McCain would be better, doesn't mean he wouldn't be running for bush's 3rd term. There is a difference between wanting to bring forward bush's policies and implementing them with bush's gross incompetents.

[ashling]

12. Don't be ridiculous!

Hillary has already said McCain has passed the "Commander in Chief Threshold," she uses McCain's talking points, she uses Republican tactics ... ad nauseum

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. So? Even Hillary would probably make a better president than Boobya.

As would any below-average carrot.

[Bake]

14. So I guess that means he just endorsed McLame.

His comment is no different than HRC's that still gets the Obots riled up.

Bake

[washingdem]

16. Jesus, you're ridiculous.

Saying he'd be better than Bush doesn't mean he isn't essentially Bush in policy. No one is LITERALLY a third term of someone else, and Bush has set the bar extremely low.

[BzaDem]

19. I wouldn't insult the OP when it is the Associated Press that said it.

[washingdem]

20. Actually, no. The OP added the "kills Dem chances" part.

[Tellurian]

18. I imagine the British PM has had his meeting with all three candidates

in lieu of the stunts Obama has pulled over this last week. I imagine he is already aware, he has not been chosen by the Brits as a candidate they feel this country needs at this time for a Commander in Chief. The Brits are content to watch the election play out between McCain and Clinton. Simply because they can abide by the selection of either of those candidates.

[madrchsod]

32. the brits?

why do i or any other american give a shit about what the brits think of our candidates? the last i knew the brits are`t voting in our primary or general election.....

opps! you were joking....

[Tellurian]

41. Oh,my...

we are in a New World Global Order, if you think that doesn't figure into what goes on in this country particularly WITH the Brits, you don't know your history. What do you think the reason would be for a British PM to come to DC specifically to speak to each one of the candidates? To ask them how their campaign was going and how they are holding up under the pressure?

[madrchsod]

44. new world order?

"A New World Order (Novus Ordo Mundi) refers to a plan in which a powerful and secretive group is conspiring to eventually rule the world via an autonomous world government, which would replace sovereign states and other checks and balances in world power struggles. In the new world order, many significant occurrences are caused by a powerful secret group. Historical and current events are seen as steps in an on-going plot to rule the world primarily through a combination of political finance, social engineering, mind control, and fear-based propaganda."

[Tellurian]

48. Yes, the Constitutionalists and the Federalists

have been at odds since The Declaration of Independence was signed and the US Constitution was authored.

Since The Constitution was crafted for the benefit of the people; the Federalists have tried for over 200 yrs to change it in favor of Global Trade. They finally succeeded with the help of GWB the shredding of the Constitution as we have always known it.

[Hoof Hearted]

21. Oh ohhhh. Too far away from the teleprompter again.

They need to hang a mini-prompter around his ears so he doesn't wander off like this.

[QC]

23. Maybe he can borrow Bush's earpiece. n/t

[GoldieAZ49]

25. so McCain isn't McSame, according to Obama. What a guy!

Obama also just reassured Clinton supports that don't want to vote for Obama if she isn't the nominee.

To the indies and moderate dems he looks good, probably better, if they care what Obama says at all anymore.

[smalll]

26. Barack, muddying some very clear lines yet again -- just like in the "context' to Bittergate --

when he said that the small-towners have suffered, not only through our recent Repubs, but through Clinton's 90s as well. False, as Krugman showed. And on that one, when you're running as "moderate" as Hillary, it doesn't jibe too well.

Post-partisan, anti-partisan, the savior above us all; the Obama Youth, the megarallies, the instantly recognizable personal logo - which at least if we have his hipster posters to go on, he is far more willing to wear in his lapel than his nation's flag: can you say, "mid-century?" Can you say, mad hard Benito-face? I knew you could!

[BlueIdaho]

29. Pop Quiz time

Who said McCain had passed the "Commander and Chief" test?

Try to keep up kids.

[madrchsod]

31. could that be hillary?

i can`t keep up with her "sweet nothings" she whispers in their ears

[BlueIdaho]

47. Sounds like an endorsement to me. nt.

[madrchsod]

30. anyone is better than bush.

barack knows not to compare the two because he is running against john not bush.

no amount of propping is going to keep john from falling on his face...

[Forkboy]

33. Did Hillary praising McCain bother you?

Thought not.

[ErinBerin84]

34. besides all of the talk about

how McCain and her have passed the commander in chief threshold, how her and McCain have years of experience to bring to the table and Obama has "just a speech" (even two weeks ago, she said "I am well aware that his candidacy is based on a speech"),besides the fact that Bill Clinton always talks about how civil and respectful a contest between Clinton and McCain would be since they are friends and they love America, besides the fact that Bill Clinton has talked about how McCain is better on climate change than Bush (honestly, the only good things I remember Bill Clinton saying about Obama is that "a dream ticket would be good because he gets the urban areas" and saying that talk of a there not being democratic unity in November was "Bull")...Hillary always says "Won't it be great to not have George Bush on the ballot this Fall?" When she is making fun of Bush is when I find her most endearing, even though I intensely dislike her. "I deeeeply regret that there is a Bush in the white house." That was a good line for her. Likewise, I don't think that her saying that Obama can win against McCain in November (the "yes.yes.yes") undermindes the arguement she tries to make against her being more electable against John McCain. Jesus Christ. The important thing is that Obama said him and Hillary Clinton will make a better president than John McCain. The fact that she is trying to use this...well, it's laughable.

Oh yeah, and Lanny Davis has a new article up on the Huffington Post bitching about media bias and the Gallup numbers, for all who are interested. Didn't Lanny Davis write a book about how Gotcha Politics are destroying America?

[scheming daemons]

35. Wow... the OP is incredibly stupid...

Obama's quote, in a nutshell:

Obama > Clinton > McCain > Bush.



True statement.



Don't be such a dick.

[GoldieAZ49]

36. Hillary is slamming him on it

they are showing it on the strategy room on FNC now, Obama defending himself...again!

[ErinBerin84]

38. whatever

Hillary would try to "slam" Barack if he admitted he wore boxers instead of briefs.


BTW, does anyone remember how recently, Hillary was comparing Obama to Bush and said "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me?". I'll try and look for it.

[scheming daemons]

39. Defend himself from what? Satan would make a better president than Bush.... so?

Obama is better than Clinton is better than McCain is better than Bush.


Nothing at all wrong with that statement.



The arguments from hillbots get more and more retarded as each day passes.

[Tellurian]

43. No Satan is not wanted here..and is not better than anyone running..

Obama will never be president. You can take that to the bank.

[madrchsod]

45. so he`s not part of the new world order....

[Tellurian]

46. Not unless you have direct knowledge one way or another, you'd like to share

[PseudoIntellect]

42. He was just telling the truth.

[DesertRat]

49. So according to Obama

McCain is better than Bush and isn't a warmonger. :wtf: