Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Only Hillary could be the victim of a vast right wing AND left wing conspiracy.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:22 PM
Original message
Only Hillary could be the victim of a vast right wing AND left wing conspiracy.
New from Taylor Marsh's website is a new post talking about the the left wing smears attacking Hillary. (complete with Nutty comments)


I find this funny that the new Clinton talking point is that it is the Progressive-Activist-Left that is conspiring against her. That it is Dean, Huffington, Kennedy, Richardson, Stephanie Miller, Olberman, Moveon..etc all the darlings of the left that are unfairly attacking her and intimidating her supporters, and enforcing DNC rules(in Dean's case)to deny her the presidency.

Why are so many Dems buying this? It worries me. How could so many Dems throw the WHOLE party under the bus for one candidate?


It does make me happy that I am an Obama supporter. I don't have to hate anybody. (including Bill. Who, while I disagree with him, I don't hate him or think he is out to "get" Obama)

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:25 PM
Response to Original message
1. Maybe there's a reason so many dislike her.
Color me revolutionary.

Like Republicans, everything is someone else's fault.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:28 PM
Response to Original message
2. I think her overall VICTIM theme has just spilled over with her need to blame others.
Your point is well-taken though and the irony is indeed thick. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:28 PM
Response to Original message
3. She's making herself the ultimate victim.
Talk about creating your own legacy. When she loses, and she will, she is going to be remembered well, blaming everyone but herself. It isn't pretty.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:28 PM
Response to Original message
4. I think people of all stripes are simply sick of her brand of politics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:37 PM
Response to Original message
5. I got two words for you: Bev Harris. DU has been fooled, more than once n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. bev harris???nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. Yup. Go look it up - you've been forewarned before n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #5
12. Please elaborate.
I know quite well who Bev Harris is, and the trouble she's caused (here and other places). WHAT are you hinting at, specifically?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:58 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. I'm not hinting or even implying ... I'm telling you, DU has been fooled
before. I stood up to her when no one else would ... but wasn't surprised that my warnings went unheeded. We were doing hospice @ home at the time, so I walked away for the worst of it.

So none of the behavior I've seen on display this silly season surprises me, nor would it anyone else who remembers what I went through defying DU's conventional "wisdom".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. Unless you explain what you mean in the context of this thread, you're full of shit.
I want to know: are you suggesting that Bev Harris is interfering with or on behalf of either of the candidates, and if so, which one and why? And if not, why bring up her name in this thread?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #14
20. Resorting to profanities already? You've lost the argument as well
Here's the context:

Why are so many Dems buying this?

The answer is: because you're gullible. Proof? Bev Harris. I rest my case.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. Buying WHAT? That's what I'm asking you.,
I'm not an Obama OR Hillary supporter (I supported Edwards and will vote for the eventual nominee).

I've lost NO argument, Fredda--I'm calling you on your BS, because Bev is an (understandably) big boogeyman to toss out, especially on this site with everything that happened to Andy. Don't make oblique comments like that and then expect everybody to just swallow it without question or comment.

I don't know WTF you think I'm gullible about--I'm one of the first DUers (Not_over_it is my original nick), and I've weathered some nasty shit here. I'm just about the least gullible poster you'll find here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:48 AM
Response to Reply #22
25. I see you know Andy ... but you missed what happened to me.
So you're one of the first? Wonder how you missed my work here ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:02 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. I'm very familiar with you as a poster, Fredda.
But you still haven't answered the question.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:33 AM
Response to Reply #5
24. So, let me get this straight
You think that Hillary's supporters are buying into a vast left wing conspiracy against Hillary and your proof is that some DUers fell for Bev Harris on DU?

Is that what you are saying? :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. HRC was demonized by the right ... I've seen us do it too - for less n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:39 PM
Response to Original message
6. Taylor Marsh - now THAT's Funny! nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:47 PM
Response to Original message
7. Doin her best to drive down the middle of the road and wham -
she gets hit from both sides.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:28 AM
Response to Original message
9. Muskie was in 1972. CREEP knocked Muskie out w/ dirty tricks while the left helped them.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 12:29 AM by McCamy Taylor
Shows what you know.

Oh, and Humphrey was also attacked by CREEP, though not as savagely, but he was mauled even more viciously by people in his own party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:36 AM
Response to Original message
10. I'm starting to feel sorry for her...
she played the wrong hand, and now a very smart, capable, accomplished woman who I was really thinking about supporting at the beginning of this, is a caricature of her former self...

ah fuck it, she's acted like an asshole and the chickens have come home to roost...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:04 AM
Response to Original message
15. I know! How could all of those nasty people vote for the person they want most! Assholes.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:05 AM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: Don't Democrats know that they OWE the nomination to Clinton???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:06 AM
Response to Original message
16. From inevitable to ridiculous in nothiing flat. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:08 AM
Response to Original message
17. I've been working this out in my head over the last few days.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:26 AM by JackBeck
How can someone that accused the "vast right-wing conspiracy" of fabricating lies join with the man that funded that smear, only to turn around and accuse the left of doing the same thing against her, while lobbing Scaife tactics against her opponent years later?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:11 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. Excellent! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:24 AM
Response to Original message
19. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:27 AM
Response to Original message
21. Candles For Clinton?
Taylor Marsh's vigil for Hillary Clinton's campaign has officially begun. :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:32 AM
Response to Original message
23. She is special that way
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:52 AM
Response to Original message
26. Reply #9 from the conspiracy expert will help you figure it out
great post
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 11th 2024, 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC