Lehigh Valley Clinton Rally-interesting thing I heard

[AllentownJake]

I did not attend but a good friend of my mother's did and I got a report from him. Was no overflow and they were charging $10 a head to come in. They also downgraded venues. They went from the Allentown Fairgrounds which seats thousands to a high school gym.

[PM7nj]

1. They were charging?

Is this a normal thing to do?

[AllentownJake]

2. I didn't pay

for Barack's rally when I attended.

[Coexist]

3. I've never paid to attend a rally

[PM7nj]

4. Me either. I've never even heard of such a thing.

That's why I asked. It seems very odd.

[Kittycat]

5. That is just sad.

[BlueIdaho]

6. Charging money for to attend a rally? Sounds like George Bush! nt.

[goldcanyonaz]

7. And, they didn't even serve meatballs!

BASTARDS!

[AllentownJake]

10. You only get meatballs

at the $25 fundraisers :-)

[goldcanyonaz]

13. haha! No meatballs for you!

[BlooInBloo]

36. mmmm.... meatballs....

[mmonk]

8. Isn't that technically a fundraiser and not a rally?

[AllentownJake]

12. 2 days before an election

and you ask people to cough up $10 to get in.

[Lannigan]

49. No, Jake, no charge to get in. I was there. - NT

[gal]

9. Has anyone here paid for a rally?

I'd like to know if anyone here on either side has ever paid to go to a rally for either candidate.

[WA98070]

11. In Seattle a month ago Obama filled the Key Arena (20,000) and...

turned people away. While Clinton couldn't fill a small warehouse.

[goldcanyonaz]

16. Obama filled an arena here in Arizona. How'd that word out for him?

[tabasco]

27. 25 delegates to Hill's 31.

I'd say it worked out pretty well.

Maybe you are like Clinton's campaign staff and don't understand how the election actually works.

[Tatiana]

45. We'll let you know in November. n/t

[mcctatas]

18. or a phone booth...

:evilgrin:

[Lisa0825]

14. I've only paid when...

dry chicken and/or cheap drinks were served.... but never for a no-frills rally.

[rainbow4321]

15. Oh that is bad....

On the night of her FEC report coming out....they've seen the numbers, folks. This report may be the final nail in the coffin.

Can we remind the MSM ***now**** that this is NOT a golf game, that the lower the numbers in the cash on hand and contribution columns IS NOT A GOOD THING. Cuz they will be spinning her "cash flow" this thing like no other.

[grantcart]

17. Sorry I can't believe they are charging - if that got out it would be the end

[Zachstar]

19. 10 bucks to watch a political rally?

That is like charging 10 bucks to watch paint dry.

What on earth? Do they need money THAT much?

[WA98070]

20. Yes

[Cheap_Trick]

21. now THAT'S funny

What's next, an H(R)C rally in a port-a-potty?

[globalvillage]

22. Seriously?

They charged for a rally?
Obama's at Pitt tomorrow. No charge. Y'all come!

[Yael]

23. Oh my. Talk about a last desperate attempt to pad the coffers

:wow:

[TML]

24. You have to pay to see your candidate?

And there were no vittles or wobbly pops for those $10? Man, I'd be bitter about that.

[Ellipsis]

25. I find that hard to beleive... you might want to double check with him.

[quantass]

26. Ouch!

[slinkerwink]

28. I don't believe that

[splat]

29. Funny, the Allentown Morning Call tells a completely different story

You might want to Google before posting "reports" from "a good friend of my mother's"
link

Clinton rooters began lining up before 6:30 a.m. to gain entrance, with lines snaking around the block. By 1:30 p.m., half-an-hour after Clinton's scheduled star time, scores were still waiting to gain entrance.

By the time Clinton finally took to the stage, volunteers had opened up rows of bleachers to accommodate a horde of slogan-chanting, sign-waving supporters.

[berni_mccoy]

34. There were people waiting to get in BECAUSE it had been moved to a HIGHSCHOOL.

From the pics at the school website, it looks like no more than 2000 people, TOPS.

http://www-lhs.beth.k12.pa.us/specials/Clinton.04.20.08/index.html

[tammywammy]

41. According to this story it was "about 1000 people"

"In a whirlwind charge across Pennsylvania on Sunday, Clinton spoke to a crowd of about 1,000 people packed into the Liberty High School gym in Bethlehem, Pa."

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_8994599

[Abacus]

38. "Liberty High School in Bethlehem"

If by completely different, you mean the same, then yep.



It looks packed, alright -- all seven rows of bleachers are filled.

[splat]

43. Another view of the rally (photo)

Try this one (yup, you actually went to the site and cherrypicked the photo with the angle you preferred. Amazing.)

Look, I know you're rooting for your candidate, but making things up simply suggests you're making a lot more of it up.

[alphafemale]

51. That photo doesn't make your case that there is a huge crowd.

That's still a pretty small space.

[Tarheel_Dem]

55. especially if they chose this smaller venue to make things appear

bigger than they really are. Why did they change venues?

[Abacus]

53. I didn't cherry pick anything, that was the top photo on the page and the only one I saw

The one you posted doesn't look spectacular either. And as much as you want them to, neither photo negates the OP.

[Lannigan]

50. That's the one side

The other side was completely opened up, and filled, every seat, to the top.

You guys are incredible. Go say nice things about your candidate and stop trashing mine.

[Abacus]

54. It isn't my objective to trash your candidate;

Splat tried to discredit the OP with evidence that actually supported the OP -- I thought that deserved comment.

[cbayer]

30. I call BS on that.

http://blog.pennlive.com/lvbreakingnews/2008/04/hillary_clinton_to_stage_rally.html

It appears that it was always to be in a gym and there was no charge.

[krkaufman]

46. Interesting note... gym capacity is 3000, according to the principal

From the article posted...

Liberty principal Jo Anne Durante said the rally will be held in the school's gym which hold roughly 3,000 people. She wasn't sure what the capacity will be for Sunday's visit.

edit: Also, the article is not a report on the rally, but an announcement of a rally to be staged. The $10 issue is unresolved -- though I expect, if anything, it may have been a donation request rather than an entrance fee.

[babylonsister]

31. Posted earlier; Clinton backers in Lehigh Valley were worried:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x129440

Clinton backers worried by mood in Pa.'s Lehigh Valley
By David Goldstein | McClatchy Newspapers

* Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008


EASTON, Pa. — The morning specialty at Tracy's Cafe in Pennsylvania's Lehigh Valley is fresh fruit waffles, but regulars have been feasting on politics lately.

"You can't go through a day without being engaged in a conversation about the presidential race," said state Rep. Bob Freeman, a frequent customer. "The valley is the place to watch. Whoever carries the valley will probably be the one who carries the state."

With Tuesday's Democratic primary days away, Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are battling over a prize that will either extend her never-say-die quest for the presidency or likely secure him the nomination.

This old farming and manufacturing region, now a health care and high-tech corridor in eastern Pennsylvania, is a good place to measure the mood.

"It gives you access to almost any type of voter that you could imagine," said Christopher Borick, the director of the Institute of Public Opinion at Muhlenberg College in Allentown.

more...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/33929.html

[City Lights]

32. I would hope something like that would make it into the local PA papers.

Pathetic, if true.

[splat]

33. See #29 for the link -- btw, it's not true

[berni_mccoy]

35. Wrong. It was downsized to a TOWN HIGH SCHOOL... no more than 2000 people.

[splat]

39. $10 a head, no overflow aren't "wrong"? Yes they are

Hillary has won lots of states where Obama draws huge crowds. There's curiousity, but it doesn't predict votes.

[Emit]

37. Means two things

She couldn't pull off a big crowd

and

She needs money

[thoughtcrime1984]

40. This seems unlikely

20K vs. bad publicity. I don't think the 20K would be worth it.

[Emit]

42. Maybe the school made the Party pay for the use of their gym

IIRC, our party here had to pay for certain venues. I must say, I have never had to pay for a rally, though. :shrug:

[Liquorice]

44. It's not true. There was no charge. nt

[Lannigan]

47. I was there. No charge and very large overflow crowd

I canvassed for Hillary yesterday, and then went to the rally. They had to open up a whole side of the gym to let more people in. The line was FOREVER. It stretched over 2 blocks, then snaked inside around the football field.

THERE WAS NO CHARGE. If someone paid $10 to get in, it was some schister (Jake, you know what that means) set up outside telling someone that.

As far as her being at the fairgrounds, that was a rumor. The initial report from the Mayor of Allentown was that she would be at the fairgrounds, but that was untrue.

I wish this OP would be deleted. It is full of untruths.

[Tarheel_Dem]

56. Can't delete everything you don't like....sorry

:cry:

And 3k is no longer a rally, the stakes have been upped in that regard. 3k is a town hall meeting.

[Lannigan]

58. It's untruths, that's why it should be deleted

Has nothing to do with whether or not I "like" it.

And whatever about the rally/town hall. The majority of her rallies have been in local HS gymnasiums, and there have always been a lot of people left waiting, even though it's a shame that happens.

[AllentownJake]

57. I only repeated

What a friend of my mom told me. Don't know why he would lie. He lives in that area and said he walked right in. He said he paid his $10 and got a seat.

I stated it was second hand info.

I don't think she's taking the Lehigh Valley :-)

[PaDem]

48. Go Momma!

major Joementum going into tomorrow.

[indimuse]

52. Liar!

quit spreading Obamacan LIES!