Clinton FEC Discussion Thread.

[Kittycat]

Come on now - did you honestly expect her to have it out yet? She has 38min to go :rofl:

Okay, I know this was an evil post. Maybe we can keep it kicked for when they come out. In the meantime - any predictions?

Personally, I'm wondering if she paid back the schools.

[slinkerwink]

1. I think she may hold back until tomorrow midnight

[Kittycat]

2. Won't she get in serious trouble for that?

It's due today.

[slinkerwink]

4. the FEC is toothless

[meow mix]

7. i keep noticing they have a phone number there

kinda tempting.

[mcctatas]

6. No...

if she gets in trouble for it, why that would be downright sexist! Are you saying the FEC is staffed by a bunch of misogynists? ;)

[PBS Poll-435]

5. Maybe...but

I looked and they are absolutely due today. No 1 day extension because of the weekend.

http://www.fec.gov/info/report_dates.shtml#monthly

[Kittycat]

80. DKOS: Rawstory & Bloomberg leaking news... Only $8M available

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/20/23580/1358/549/499817

The Raw Story has an AP article that says Clinton will file before midnight.

The Clinton aide said she raised 20 million in March and only had 8 million from March primaries. This confirms what we all thought of limited resources. This alone is a bad sign for her campaign and argument for Super Delegates. Which ones would want to turn away a fund raising machine like Obamas? It is the thing Democrats have dreamed about for years.

More at the link

[TahitiNut]

3. C'mon. She's just being "fashionably late."

:rofl:

[Aloha Spirit]

9. I'ma call her in about 3 and half hours, see where 'er FEC report is.

[Arugula Latte]

Better yet, call her at 3 am.

Collect.

[chill_wind]

82. LOL! :-)

[DearAbby]

8. She still has money left...

she still has checks in her check book!

[slinkerwink]

26. those checks better not bounce!

[DearAbby]

40. Bouncing checks?

:bounce::bounce::bounce:

[TML]

10. Kick

Waiting for the results is like waiting for a train wreck to happen.

[Pavlovs DiOgie]

11. I'm wondering if she paid her health care bill

And why hasn't anyone been up in arms about her not revealing her 2007 tax returns? Did she wimp out and file an extension (quite predictable if she did).

[slinkerwink]

15. well, they did file an extension

[Pavlovs DiOgie]

71. Yeah, I figured she would

She must have some very interesting information to hide, err report about herself.

[thevoiceofreason]

12. Oh Hillary!! We're waiting! And we're not going away!!

[yourguide]

13. BOOOOOOOO!!!!

That was evil. ERGH!

[featherman]

14. 21 minutes

[meow mix]

16. hill cmon, plz... can i see donations in PA and NY

^_^

[Zachstar]

17. Well if somehow she has not given them the info yet. It will only fester the damage.

Tho I think it has more to do with them wanting to upload her's last to prevent a shitstorm before tomorrow.

[Yael]

20. She IS last. Everyone else is up.

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M4/

[slinkerwink]

23. we have 15 minutes left

[Yael]

27. Actually, she had to turn everything in on Friday as the 20th was a weekend day

They then review and post online.

Joking aside -- we aren't waiting on her, we are waiting on the FEC to post the information.

They just got Obama and Edwards up about an hour ago.

[Yael]

18. I have a meeting first thing in the morning

But I am dying to see these numbers.

HURRY UP!

:D

[meow mix]

24. for months everymorning i have to explain to the boss how hillary is killing me..

cant ever sleep, totally stressed

[Aloha Spirit]

43. ha ha

[Ichingcarpenter]

19. Maybe they need to borrow money for the stamp or the phone

to send the fax?

[slinkerwink]

21. that's change they don't have to xerox

[Ichingcarpenter]

25. They don't have a xerox machine?

I guess they didn't pay that bill either....


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[ErinBerin84]

31. yeah,

I always assumed that's what took them such a long time to release the taxes.

[CoffeeCat]

75. The word "Xerox" is copyright protected...

...so she owes the Xerox company as well, for her little joke in the debate.

[CoffeeCat]

76. The word "Xerox" is copyright protected...

...so she owes the Xerox company as well, for her little joke in the debate.

[Ichingcarpenter]

87. Was this double post a xerox problem?

:)

[Starbucks Anarchist]

22. Is anyone reminded of this song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqc_cADJiQ

(Metaphorically speaking)

[Aloha Spirit]

28. Not until you reminded me!

[slick8790]

29. I was more reminded of this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLCJEYLIBQY

[slinkerwink]

30. ten minutes left.....

[featherman]

32. Not happenin' I'm guessing

[slinkerwink]

33. if they don't file by midnight, and they file after, that's an FEC violation

[Yael]

36. See #27 -- she had to file by Friday

We are waiting on them to review and post. The candidates don't post directly to the FEC site.

[thoughtcrime1984]

34. Can she file an extension, so she doesn't have to show her financials

until after Tuesday?

[tammywammy]

37. No extensions

[City Lights]

35. I'm not holding my breath.

I'm thinking she "can't get it together by then." ;-)

edited for typo

[meow mix]

39. how can she run the whitehouse if she cant even manage her campaign

:shrug:

[featherman]

38. Too embarrassed?

[meow mix]

41. Elton John?

[Ichingcarpenter]

42. They are still adding up the $10 entrance fees to their rallies.

Its hard work.

[Aloha Spirit]

45. i'm sure it's either that, or she changed her campaign name to "Friends of Fred Thompson"

[Yael]

47. !!

:spray:

[Pirate Smile]

97. Those will be part of the 2nd Quarter numbers. I believe this filing is just about the first

quarter.

[slick8790]

44. 2 minutes. n/t

[Aloha Spirit]

46. It could still have a valid time stamp even if it's not published 2night

[gateley]

48. Item #7 - Total Receipts This Period -- what does that indicate? Thanks. nt

[Aloha Spirit]

54. Contributions, federal funds, loans, refunds, dividends, et cetera

[gateley]

56. Thanks. So..

that means he raised $40 Mil in March? (I'm slow - I apologize.) :)

[Aloha Spirit]

70. Yep !

[gateley]

73. Yeow! Good job, O! nt

[Yael]

49. Well, happy Monday the 21st to all. Still nothin'

:hi:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

50. No whammies, no whammies, no whammies!

[Bigleaf]

51. Fucking figures hers is the only one not posted. What the Fuck?

[ncdem1975]

57. She may have got it in

The FEC hasn't updated the page since 10:45.

[featherman]

52. Awwwww... whatta letdown!

[meow mix]

53. all those election rules are just meant for other people.

no rules apply to hillary

[ScarletSniper]

55. I believe she's broke...and wounded...

[my3boyz]

58. I bet she decided to pay the fines out of her own pocket rather than

have it released prior to PA votes. I guess she will allow the numbers to be released either the day that PA votes or the day after so that the news will talk about her win rather than money on hand.

[slinkerwink]

59. how much are the FEC fines?

[my3boyz]

63. I have no idea. nt

[Aloha Spirit]

78. This page suggests it's like $16,000

http://www.fec.gov/pages/report_notices/2008/supp2.shtml#who

[mckeown1128]

90. Does it matter? She doesn't seem to interested in paying her bills. lol nt

[thoughtcrime1984]

60. The numbers can be fudged pretty easily, can't they?

She could look utterly rich first thing in the morning, to win the news cycle.

[bhikkhu]

74. Or do like the Gov - post fantastic figures

trumpet our unexpected good fortune, then revise them to abysmal a month later when no one is looking. Woops!

[quantass]

61. Hawaii Local time? 6am est cutoff

[Ichingcarpenter]

66. midnight EDT Sunday to file

The candidates had until midnight EDT Sunday to file monthly campaign fund-raising reports with the U.S. Federal Election Commission.

News report just breaking from Reuters she has file yet.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2038014420080421

[gateley]

62. Has her campaign indicated how much they received

in contributions last month?

EDIT -- I'm going with the "too embarrassed" and "paying late fines out of her own pocket" to keep it hush hush until after PA.

[slinkerwink]

68. they said up to twenty million

[TML]

64. Nothing yet

I have to run an errand. I'll make fun of her debts later. :-)

[thoughtcrime1984]

65. Where do you look? I see nothing new under fec.gov

[Aloha Spirit]

81. See my link... she sheould be between Fred Thompson and Huckabee.

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M4/

[madrchsod]

67. obama has 51 million in the bank

i bet hillary does`t have anything close to that

[gateley]

69. We're not the only ones on the death watch.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5597694

I'm posting this link over there, too.

[crankychatter]

72. Did I hear someone say today, Clinton Camp is firing up some 527 action?

for the duration of the conflict?

[grantcart]

77. they are already advertising in PA

It could be a real problem though because if they don't do it just right there will be legal problems

[crankychatter]

98. thanks

ya'all are wonderful

[nonobadfish]

79. Her campaign says she started April with 8 million. Report will be filed by deadline.

According to Bloomberg:
April 20 (Bloomberg) -- Democrat Barack Obama started this month with about five times more cash than Hillary Clinton for their race for the Democratic presidential nomination, according to figures released by the campaigns.

Obama, an Illinois senator, had $42.5 million available for spending on primary elections and caucuses, his campaign said today. Clinton, a New York senator, had about $8 million, according to her spokesman, Jay Carson.

And AP:
Obama reports $51M to start April; McCain raised $15M
By JIM KUHNHENN – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama raised $41 million in March and had $42 million available to spend against Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton in April, campaign finance reports filed Sunday show.

Clinton aides said late Sunday she would report raising about $20 million in March and that she had more than $8 million for the primary available at the beginning of April.

Overall, Obama had $51 million in the bank at the end of March, with nearly $9 million of that available only for the general election.

The money positioned Obama to undertake an expensive April campaign in Pennsylvania, where he has outspent Clinton and cut into her lead. Pennsylvania votes on Tuesday.

Obama's fundraising in March led all candidates, but was still lower than the mark he set in February, when he raised more than $55 million. He has raised $235 million in his campaign.

Clinton was expected to file her report with the Federal Election Commission by the midnight deadline.

Republican John McCain's report showed he raised $15.2 million and had $11.6 million in the bank. The Arizona senator's March figures were his best fundraising performance of the campaign.

Obama spent $30.6 million in March — a month that began with tough contests for the Illinois senator in Ohio and Texas. He lost the popular vote to Clinton in both state primaries even though he outspent her, but he emerged with more delegates in Texas.

His report showed he spent $9 million on media advertising, an amount mostly spent in final days before the March 4 Ohio and Texas primaries. Obama did spend money in March for ads in Pennsylvania and Indiana, which votes May 6. But he held off on most of his big ad spending until April, permitting him to build up his cash on hand.

Obama reported owing more than $660,000 to various vendors. Beside advertising, his other major expenses were nearly $5 million in telemarketing and $3.6 million for travel and lodging.

In keeping with his trend, California was Obama's go-to fundraising state, generating nearly $4.6 million in contributions in March. New York was next with nearly $3.2 million.

Clinton spokesman Jay Carson said $15 million of Clinton's $20 million was raised over the Internet. He said the campaign has raised $60 million over the Internet since Jan. 1. The surge of online support suggests she is attracting more small-dollar donors, but contributors who give larger amounts could also be encouraged to give online.

The March figures do not include the $2.5 million she raised last week at an Elton John concert in New York. Carson said the event's total sum included money from 6,000 new donors.

McCain in March refunded donors about $3 million in contributions, most of it money he had received for the general election. The refunds set the stage for McCain to accept about $84 million in public funds for the fall campaign. Candidates who accept public financing cannot raise money from donors for the general election campaign.

McCain's biggest expense of the month was $3 million to Fidelity & Trust Bank to finish paying off a $4 million loan that had become the focus of a stalemate between McCain and the FEC. Campaign finance regulators want to make sure McCain did not use the promise of public financing in the primary to secure the loan. McCain was eligible for public financing in the primary, but his lawyers said they did not use that eligibility as collateral.

In March, his operating expenses were $5 million, his smallest monthly expense so far this year.

McCain's March expenses ranged from $758,000 for air charters to $151.55 to a Los Angeles florist. The campaign reported a debt of $707,000, much of it outstanding American Express billings. McCain had his most fundraising success in California and Florida, each of which yielded more than $1 million.

[nonobadfish]

83. Just to be clear....Obama started April with over 5 times as much

42 million to her 8 million!

[bobbert]

84. According to that, Clinton raised 20 mill

[nonobadfish]

85. keep reading...you'll come to the part where it says 8 mil of the 20 mil available.

[gateley]

88. Interesting article -- thanks. nt

[KansasVoter]

86. It must be bad. She is trying to skip a news cycle. LOL.

[Ichingcarpenter]

89. News feeds are catching the story of the non report

As you know, I post a lot in LBNs........so I watch major rss feeds.

[Aloha Spirit]

92. whas LBN's? Whatvers, I'm glad the story is catching. Now I can go to sleep.

[gateley]

94. Late Breaking News -- a DU forum. nt

[gateley]

93. Regardless of the reason

(or excuse) it won't reflect well on her. (How's that for an understatement? :eyes:)

[babylonsister]

91. Any word yet? Inquiring minds... nt

[TexasLady]

95. there is now, thread up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5598116

[Pirate Smile]

96. We've already had a President who only complies with the law when it is convenient for him - what

the hell is she doing? Where are the ###'s?

edit - OK - they are finally out