Undecided superdelegates don't feel bound by primaries- "they just want a winner in November."

[2rth2pwr]

Sun Apr 20,2008

WASHINGTON - Many of the Democratic superdelegates who are still undecided say the most important factor in their decision is simple — they just want a winner in November.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080420/ap_on_el_pr/undecided


Problem is, after nearly four months of primaries and caucuses in 46 states, territories and the District of Columbia, they still aren't sure who that is, don't seem be in any hurry to make up their minds and aren't interested in any artificial process that might force them to choose between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton...

Most of the more than 100 undecided superdelegates who discussed their decision-making with The Associated Press in the past two weeks agreed that the primaries and caucuses do matter — whether it's who has the most national delegates or the candidate who won their state or congressional district. But few said the primaries will be the biggest factor in their decision.

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Obama has been arguing for months that the superdelegates would be overturning the will of the voters if they don't nominate the candidate who has won the most pledged delegates. He has a 164-delegate lead in that category. Clinton, meanwhile, has argued that superdelegates should exercise independent judgment.


_About a third said the most important factor will be the candidate who, they believe, has the best chance of beating Republican John McCain in the general election.

_One in 10 said the biggest factor will be the candidate with the most pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses.

_One in 10 said what matters most is who won their state or congressional district in the primary or caucus.

_The rest cited multiple factors or parochial issues.

Great sign that the superdelegates have their eyes on the prize!

[sandnsea]

1. If they want to win, they better pick the primary winner

I don't know how they can think otherwise, talk about out of touch with the voters. That's the one way we will lose for sure.

[coyotespaw]

2. I may disagree with your choice of candidates...

but I love your avatar. Captain America stood not for the government (as frequently misinterpreted), but for the highest ideals of what this country could be if all of us worked together to preserve life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

[2rth2pwr]

4. I'm hot on Marvel right now, can't wait for the new Ironman movie.

[coyotespaw]

5. You've got to appreciate the humor of...

Robert Downey Jr. playing an alcoholic superhero.

[2rth2pwr]

6. I just read this today, good story about his recovery.

http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2008/edition_04-20-2008/1Robert_Downey_Jr

It continues with a link on bottom.

[MrSlayer]

3. That one third might want to take a look outside the top 2.

Wouldn't that be fun?

[AtomicKitten]

7. Barack is climbing again in matchups with McCain at +5 (Hillary is now -3).

Beside all the math on Obama's side, that's a pretty convincing argument to the SDs right there.

[2rth2pwr]

12. As the reality of the strong win in PA by Clinton hits the balance

of the Dem voters in the primaries left, the whole dynamic changes.

[AtomicKitten]

13. Sorry, but it doesn't. His lead is insurmountable.

You can keep banging your head against the wall or pull up your socks and accept her defeat. You are feeding your own bitterness by refusing to do the math.

[2rth2pwr]

14. The math game changes when the human factor is considered.

[AtomicKitten]

15. New polling shows him up 3-pts in Penn.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3277038

[2rth2pwr]

17. LOL!

[AtomicKitten]

20. You don't seem to grasp the concept that he doesn't need to win.

She had a once 30-point lead in Pennsylvania. Now she'll be lucky to eek out a 5-pt win which, and here's the part you don't seem to understand, that is for all practical purposes a victory for him by depriving her of any significant delegate gain which he will quickly wipe out in No. Carolina.

No worries. Time will make this clear to you.

[wileedog]

21. And then she gets spanked in NC by 25

And the dynamic is back where it started.

[bowens43]

8. So you're in favor of them turniong over the will of the people

and allowing hillary to stael the nomination?

[frogcycle]

10. nonsense

the rules are what they are

it would not be "turning over" anything, any more than if Guam's delegate choice were to tip it one way or the other.

argue that they should vote for your candidate on the merits, not on trying to rewrite the rules

[susankh4]

9. Eyes on the prize!

Woohoo!!:kick:

[tekisui]

11. One is Ten is all Obama will need.

Nominee Obama!

[barack the house]

16. There is independent judgement that is great and there is career ending judgement...

Voting aginst people who lected them is illogical at best. No-one is forcing them to vote Obama but if overturning public will won Dmocrats only 1 state in 1984, then we learn history to gain new knowledge from mistakes of the past.

[2rth2pwr]

18. Tell that to Richardson, Kerry, and Kennedy.

[mmonk]

19. Yep. Obama is obviously the one.

[2rth2pwr]

22. The SD's could end this thing, why haven't they?