Hillary: Obama 'can' win, but I 'will' win. "He's doing what candidates do when they get desperate"

[jefferson_dem]

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Clinton: Obama 'can' win, but I 'will' win
By Thomas Fitzgerald

Inquirer Staff Writer

For weeks, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's central argument, aimed at Democratic superdelegates, has been that Sen. Barack Obama is unelectable in the fall. Then last week she said in a televised debate that her rival could win, appearing to undercut a central rationale for continuing her campaign.

"I don't see any contradiction at all. . . . He can be elected; I will be elected," Clinton said yesterday in an interview with The Inquirer at the Bonnet Lane Family Restaurant in Abington.

"I have carried the states that a Democrat must carry in order to win in November," Clinton said. "If you look at the electoral map, anything is possible, but it is more likely that the coalition I have put together is the winning coalition."

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The race has turned nastier in its last hours. On Saturday, and continuing yesterday, Obama blasted Clinton as a "do-anything" practitioner of "slash-and-burn" politics while at the same time pushing his core message that he can unite people to fix the system.

Obama's campaign has also attacked Clinton's health-care plan with TV ads and sent out mailers and automated phone calls blasting her on trade and other issues.

"I think he's doing what candidates do when they get desperate at the end of an election," Clinton said in the interview. "He is now undermining his message. He has spent all this time crossing Pennsylvania talking about how he runs a positive campaign, except when he gets pressed, and he starts throwing . . . the 'kitchen sink' at me."

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http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/20080421_Clinton__Obama__can__win__but_I__will__win.html

[Buzz Clik]

1. LOL! Who could be more appropriate at this point than Baghdad Bob!

[indimuse]

2. !!

Hillary: Obama 'can' win, but I 'will' win. "He's doing what candidates do when they get desperate"
Go Hillary!

[cliffordu]

37. More politics of fear, the only kind Rove and Hillary have anymore...

Ain't skeered.

Gobama

[MercutioATC]

3. I wish I knew if she really believed the stuff she says.

If she doesn't, it's a really transparent whiny argument.

If she does, that's just all kinds of scary.

[Avalux]

4. Rove tactic. Project onto your oponent what is true about yourself.

The GOP has been doing this for years. Does anyone believe Hillary will make any changes in Washington? She's part of the problem.

[cosmicsheep]

10. Reply to "Rove Tactic"

"The GOP has been doing this for years."

And now Bill is doing it, saying that Obama has been throwing the kitchen sink at Hillary. It would truly be laughable if it were not so, just, slimy and despicable.

There seems to be NO shame whatsoever with these two.

From ABC news -

"And let me just say this -- don't you think for a minute that if you don't get her -- if you give her a big victory here -- after all the blizzard of money and all these ads and the kitchen sink has been thrown at her. I asked her about that -- I said, 'They are throwing the kitchen sink at ya.' She said, 'Well, Harry Truman said if you can't stand the heat you should get out of the kitchen.' So the only thing I said is, 'Well, you have got to figure out how to keep the kitchen sink in the kitchen now,'" Clinton told the crowd.

Clinton's view of the "kitchen sink" is a new spin on a story line already familiar to many voters, thanks to Sen. Clinton's opponent in the race. Sen. Barack Obama has spent the past few days, as the race in Pennsylvania winds down, claiming that the Clintons have been doing everything in their power to throw the kitchen sink at him.

[ErinBerin84]

15. lol, what?

I don't even get angry at them when they say stuff like that anymore, because it's so funny in a perverse way.

[City Lights]

11. Exactly right.

We've been watching the GOP do this for years, and we are so on to you, Hillary. :thumbsdown:

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones Hillary is concentrating on.

[jaxx]

5. Incoming!

What we have is a refusal to accept reality. Wait! we've had 7 years of this already.

[DarienComp]

6. She WILL win in November because only the blue states will count, I guess.

[cosmicsheep]

7. Tiny dose of reality

Sorry if it is painful -

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aLDu9y9lW3EY&refer=politics

April 21 (Bloomberg) -- To overtake Barack Obama in the nationwide popular vote, Hillary Clinton needs a bigger win in tomorrow's Pennsylvania primary than she has had in any major contest so far. And that's just for starters.

After more than 40 Democratic primaries and caucuses, Obama, the Illinois senator, leads Clinton by more than 800,000 votes. Even if the New York senator wins by more than 20 percentage points tomorrow -- a landslide few experts expect -- she would still have a hard time catching him.

[lisa58]

8. Keep it coming Hillary...

...you'll win us all over soon.

[Umbram]

9. She's a sad and pathetic creature. (nt)

[HooptieWagon]

12. Thanks for the laugh!

The HilLiary campaign became a joke a while back... how about Bahgdad Tonya as an analogy?

[speedoo]

13. Clap Clap Point Point

That's all pathetic Hillary has left.

Lie.

Clap Clap Point Point.

Lie.

Clap Clap Point Point.

(Repeat ad nauseum)

My only question re. Hillary is this: is she still a viable political candidate for anything?

[Diamond Dog]

16. Re: "Is she still a viable political candidate" - No, and

someone in New York ought to primary her after she loses the nomination and her Senate seat's up for re-election again.

[mamalone]

19. Methinks.........

there will be a lot of us NYers working for that very thing to happen. Everyone I know here wants her *gone*........

[speedoo]

25. I'm a NYer too, and I want both her and Schumer replaced.

I know, too much to hope for, but I want at least Hillary gone. That might teach Schumer (Mukasey's pal) a lesson. Let him know he's on probation, so to speak.

[cosmicsheep]

29. New Yorker here as well that wants both of them gone

Schumer has disgraced himself one too many times, and Hillary has, IMHO, shown just how much becoming a Senator from NY was just a stepping stone for her.

She could care less about NY, since she is from Arkansas, oh wait..I forgot, she is from PA, oh no, my mistake, she is from Illinois, oh hell, she is from wherever she needs to be from at the moment, I forgot.

[mamalone]

30. Let's all join hands....

and pray;)

[cosmicsheep]

31. Jeez, Hillary makes my point for me

Today she IS from PA, HA!!!

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/04/clinton_im_one.html



SCRANTON, Pa. -- On the eve of tomorrow's make-or-break Pennsylvania primary, Hillary Clinton came to her ancestral home of Scranton this morning armed not with a stump speech, but with a simple declaration: I understand you, because I'm one of you.

As she tries to maintain her Keystone State edge over Barack Obama, Clinton, whose father's family is from here, is making every effort to show she hails from small-town, middle-American stock. Recalling childhoods spent in the area, she said she learned "the kind of common-sense values that matter here in Pennsylvania and across America."

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And then she went on to tell the crowd how she promptly left all those values behind when they no longer suited her needs (like when she praised Wal-Mart, while serving on the board!)

[speedoo]

20. I agree. She would need to completely rehabilitate herself.

And she does not appear to be able to do that. The Dems had better be ready with another candidate, because the rethugs will be ready with a real candidate, for a change.

[BeyondGeography]

14. Is that you, Tracy?

[LTR]

17. The resemblance is striking

[merh]

18. Projection

[AtomicKitten]

21. She can't beat Obama so all else is moot.

[madrchsod]

22. please do`t compare the two!

bagdad bob was hilliarous........ hillary is`t

[Yael]

23. EPIC

[Arugula Latte]

24. Hey ... She WILL be president

of Fantasyland! :woohoo:

[Lisa0825]

26. What a fucking hypocrite.

It's really sad to see how low she has sunk.

[snooper2]

27. If he had thrown the kitchen sink at you Hillary..

He would have asked how many blue dresses you washed in it...

That's Republican politics he doesn't play...Time for you to go away now, nice while it lasted... :rofl:




GOBAMA!

[Window]

28. Now, that is funny coming from Hillary.

:rofl:

[stillcool]

32. what a load...but what's she going to say?

she cant' say anything constructive, so she has to say something destructive.

[GoesTo11]

33. Not projection. Just trying to make it "he said - she said"

If Hillary says Obama is showing desparation and throwing the kitchen sink, then when people say that about her, the spin will just be, as Cokie Roberts always says in her reporting of the conventional wisdom "A pox on both their houses."

[Arkana]

34. ...

"I have carried the states that a Democrat must carry in order to win in November," Clinton said. "If you look at the electoral map, anything is possible, but it is more likely that the coalition I have put together is the winning coalition."

She's making the same bullshit argument that her supporters here make--and it's no less stupid and invalid coming out of her mouth.

No, Hillary, you haven't--you didn't win any of the Great Lakes states except Michigan, you didn't win Washington State, Maryland, DC, Connecticut, or Illinois, or Hawaii either.

[Vinca]

35. Hill, Hill, Hill - is that whining from you . . . again?

I thought you could withstand the heat, loved the kitchen, etc., etc., etc. Guess that only counts right after the ambush . . er. . . debate.

[butterfly77]

36. Wake up Hillary!

You are D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E!

[newmajority]

38. She's calling Obama desperate??

Her campaign has been in desperation mode since Iowa. :eyes:

[EFerrari]

39. Now, that's just scary.

:scared:

[IDemo]

40. You will be elected in your 3:00 AM dreams, Hillary

[Az_lefty]

41. the Clinton's are good at accusing others of doing exactly what they are doing...

republicans do this all the time to draw attention from themselves. Like calling Obama desperate when in fact she's the most desperate of all.