Sorry, there's no excuse for a dem using the Osama/terror card in the primary.

[cali]

It's just :puke:worthy. Scaring voters into going for you is the ultimate repuke card. It pre-dates 9/11 but its use is even more reprehensible post 9/11. How many times have we decried the repukes use of the terra, terra, terra card? Seems like a pretty unanimous opinion around DU for years- until Hillary decided that it was a nifty little tactic. Make no mistake, flashing Osama on the screen in an ad with some comment about who's ready to handle such evil, is playing the terra card. And it sucks.

Goddamnit, we deserve better than this.

[Writer]

1. Because it's no longer an issue? n/t

[cali]

5. Because, it's not half the issue the repukes have built it up to.

Because running with fear is a lousy thing. Because we seriously need to reframe the debate, and terra, terra, terra is just the same old tired shit.

[babylonsister]

7. So you think it's A-OK to use the fear card like * has done for 7 years?

Wow. I don't, and think it is puke-worthy. Don't let anyone tell me she hasn't used the GOP playbook. She should be ashamed of herself.

[endarkenment]

25. Wow. How stunningly stupid a response.

Are you unaware of just how dishonest a tactic waving the bloody shirt is?

[YOY]

34. Because for the amount of money we have thrown at it it...

Sweet Jesus, why even continue... If you haven't gotten it by now you never will.

[YOY]

35. SD

n/t

[redqueen]

2. I don't remember anyone defending the GOP's use of Osama's image

in campaign ads.

I'd bet good money we'll see DUers defending that BS now, though.

Pathetic.

[Zachstar]

3. It is a desperate short term Gain ad

She HAS to keep it above 5 or her fundraising will tank. She NEEDS money for Indiana and is willing to take the long term loss to scare a few voters in my view.

[Skidmore]

4. It's also a smear against Obama, trying to make a connection

between the names and further the idea that somehow he himself is a terrorist. It is a vile right wing smear that is being pushed as a part of this. Hillary plays straight from Rove's playbook. Period.

[AtomicKitten]

6. Samantha Power was right.

[Arrowhead2k1]

12. Damn straight she was right.

As soon as Hillary is out, I want her back in the campaign and maybe even promoted.

[ScarletSniper]

15. Chimera!!! That's what she should have said

[mmonk]

8. When she does that, she works against the millions of us

attempting to get the truth of the last 7 years to the American people through all the spin and lies. I really really don't like her for she will sacrifice anything including the truth and possibly more lives if McCain gets the benefit of this garbage, for her blind ambition. I don't care what anyone says, most democratic candidates would not do this no matter how much they wanted the nomination (except Lieberman).

[Lone_Star_Dem]

9. Manipulating voters via fear of terrorism has been a source of outrage among Democrats here.

I'm staying consistent on this issue. I find it as disgusting now as I always have.

[reflection]

10. I assume we are talking about a campaign ad?

I didn't see it. Off to try to Google it up unless you happen to have a link handy, please.

If your description is accurate, it does sound like it came straight from W's third-and-long playbook. :eyes:

[reflection]

18. Found it.

It certainly does use overall fear as a motivator. I would add, though, that it's not all "terra" stuff. At least there are some socio-economic images and voiceovers as well. (Katrina, gas prices, et al)

[rug]

11. It's a good thing no one's done that.

[cali]

16. Are you suggesting that Hillary isn't running an ad that flashes Osama

on the screen and capitalizes on the terrra issue?

[scheming daemons]

19. rug, like other Hillary supporters is in denial. We can show them the link, and they'll deny.....

..it exists.


We can play the ad in their face, using toothpicks to hold their eyelids open, and they'll claim that Hillary is not using Osama bin Laden in her ad.

[rug]

23. Thank you, my dear schemer, but I've seen the whole thing. Have you?

[scheming daemons]

28. Yup..... saw Osama bin Laden's face right there at the 10 second mark...

You can't explain that away.


It's a Republican ad.

[rug]

29. Gone at the 11 second mark. Which second was FDR?

And what is FDR doing in a Republican ad?

[scheming daemons]

32. To provide cover for cognitively dissonant Clinton supporters like you....

"See?!?! It's not playing the terror card! It's got FDR in it!"

[rug]

37. Hmmm, what do you suppose the gas pump is telling us?

[bvar22]

42. What is FDR doing in a Hillary (DLC) ad?

Hillary and the DLC are working to undo everything FDR.

Would FDR have supported a LAW that forces all Americans to BUY Health Insurance from For Profit
sources?
The DLC (Hillary) is STILL salivating over "privatizing" Social Security.



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[Justitia]

24. Yup, absolutely pointless. Slipping grips on reality. -eom

[rug]

26. Boo!

[Justitia]

31. Only you would think that crap is funny. Totally tasteless, like your candidate. -eom

[rug]

39. I can think of many words for bin Laden but tasteless is not one of them.

Twisting political ads for lame points is, however, tasteless.

[Justitia]

46. 'Tasteless' was for YOU. -eom

[rug]

21. You mean the ad that also flashes FDR and gas prices?

Not to mention Katrina?

Not only am I suggesting that's not a "terra" ad, I'm stating it flat out.

[IndianaJones]

22. picture of Osama bad...pander to bigots good. nt.

[cali]

30. and the purpose of flashing a pic of Osama would be?

she could have left that terra card out. she didn't.

[rug]

36. Same purpose for showing a gas pump. There are real issues out there, cali.

She certainly could have left it out but Obama began his whole campaign saying Iraq, dumb war, Afghanistan, good war. Saddam, no threat, bin Laden "terra"ist.

This is a typical ad. If either of them wanted to exploit "terra" we both know exactly what that ad would look like. This isn't it.

[AllentownJake]

13. That was the final straw

for me. I will not lift a finger to help her if she is somehow the nominee I will do not a damn thing.

[Occam Bandage]

14. Not one person here defended the Cleland-Osama ad. We all condemned it.

Dammit, Team Hillary. Remember what you used to be:

Democrats.

[BlooInBloo]

33. "Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!"

:rofl:

[BlooInBloo]

17. It's the Clinton-republican strategy. It's excellent practice for Obama....

... For example, his first response was out almost before the ad itself.

[DearAbby]

20. This pisses me off to no end

They are using the same goddamn tactics B*sh used. Wake up people. When will Clinton pull the same "Cleland ad"? Where Obama's face morphs into Osama's........this is complete bullshit, and the smoking gun.

[Scurrilous]

27. Great post cali.

K & R :thumbsup:

[chill_wind]

38. Indefensible. Totally! K&R. n/t

[CakeGrrl]

40. Because "Goldwater Girl" Hillary is showing her true nature

Why else would she refuse to completely kick a Repub strategist off her campaign? She probably figures she can win dirty and she'll take any "win" she can.

[ej510]

47. Hillary finds comfort n her base!

[Bread and Circus]

41. Osama fear ads are fairly disgusting and like I said before, if Clinton

is elected don't expect much to change.

Of course I'm derided for it but when you look at Hillary's FP record really closely, it is not that much different than Bush's. I know it's hard to believe, but it's true.

[SlingBlade]

43. Hear Here, Bout time someone said it !

We are Democrats
We are not a party of hybrid Repuke Liberman monstrosities

Nuff said

[Adelante]

44. I don't even know what to say anymore

It's beyond me.

[cali]

45. It's simple. She's demonstrating what she'll do to win.

It's not pretty, but it's damned obvious.

[Buzz Clik]

48. kick