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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:55 PM
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Am I wrong to think Obama will pick Kathleen Sebelius as VP?
I'm feeling kind of psychic today, I can't seem to get the notion out of my head...

Anyone know much about her?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:57 PM
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1. I seriously doubt it'll happen.
Smart money is on a VP pick with foreign policy or national security credentials. Which means likely choices would be Joe Biden, Wesley Clark, Jim Webb, or Bill Richardson.
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Diamond Dog Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:58 PM
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3. I'd hope for Webb.
Appeal to Southerns and centrists and members of the military. Also, I hate to indulge in a bit of realpolitik, but I don't know how well a ticket with a black man and a white woman would fare.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:01 PM
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8. Then who for DoD Sec?
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Diamond Dog Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:10 PM
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21. Clark.
He's firmly in Clinton's camp now, but he'd probably be open to it after the primary season.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:22 PM
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28. Clark is ineligible by statute.
No-one who has served in the military in the last ten years may legally become Secretary of Defense.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:10 PM
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20. Richardson would be the best of those choices.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:12 PM by newmajority
All have impressive resumes, but two senators on a ticket is not gonna cut it, so that eliminates Biden & Webb, though Biden may well end up as Secretary of State, after the election. Webb is probably better off remaining in the Senate. A veteran, with a son in Iraq, who also happens to be an ex-Reaganite Republican. A much needed voice against the occupation, right where he is.

I'm not opposed to Clark as VP in terms of qualifications, but he is a known Clinton loyalist, and that bugs me. Hillary seems determined to sabotage Obama any way she can, and it's very possible she could be doing so in order to set herself up for 2012. Could Clark break from the Clintons like Richardson, Reich, and others have, for the good of the country?

As for Sebelius..... I can see the benefits of a female governor on the ticket. And Kansas would probably be a win as a result, but that's not exactly an electoral vote jackpot. Richardson on board might bring New Mexico (and possibly other "mountain west" states) with him.
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pegleg Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:58 PM
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2. That would be a winning ticket !
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:58 PM
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4. Back before Super Tuesday, I was doing canvassing in SROs in San Francisco
I knocked on this guys door and he opens it standing there in his boxer shorts. He was in love with Gov. Sebelius. He talked about her for about five minutes.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:59 PM
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5. yes you are wrong
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:00 PM by onenote
according to my crystal ball, which tells me that if Obama gets the nomination, he isn't going to pick as his running mate someone with a national name recognition of next to zero.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:04 PM
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11. I think people here underestimate what the power of a female candidacy means to a lot of people...
If Clinton weren't such mendacious fool, she'd have the nomination by now.

However, the thirst for a female in the Administration is still going to be strong when she leaves the race.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:18 PM
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26. its not a question of underestimating the power of a female candidacy
its a matter of realistic expectations of what a candidate who is viewed by many as more limited in experience -- and more limited in foreign policy experience in particular -- will look for in a running mate.

I believe it is far more likely that Sebelius will make a run in 2010 for the Senate.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:00 PM
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6. I like her a lot
She's a strong contender, in my opinion. But the idea of someone with foreign policy experience is a valid one as well.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:01 PM
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7. George Clooney!
seriously, though, I think Richardson.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:02 PM
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9. I like her... think she'd be a good President
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:13 PM by crankychatter
I want her to get more national exposure... and I'd like to know more about her...

I'm new to Kansas

I don't think there's enough familiarity with her nationally... for the second spot on the ticket

I think we need New Mexico and Colorado

Even though I don't think he's as smart as Sebelius... I'm hoping for Richardson... just because of the West Vote... the West is the new South

I'm especially opposed to draining Democratic Senators from Congress... as much as I like some of them... we'll need them to avoid a legislative log jam under President Obama.
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:04 PM
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10. Sebelius is perfect: red state female gov, pro-gun w/i limits
I admire her work as insurance commissioner. And, oh yeah, being White doesn't hurt either ;)
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:05 PM
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12. He's going to pick a white male with tons of experience.
That's my guess anyway.
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:06 PM
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14. Does that mean Biden?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:09 PM
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18. Personally, I'd prefer Chris Dodd.
Biden would go better with Hillary, although their massive egos might eat each other.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:21 PM
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27. I think you're right.
And that's exactly what he should do. He just better keep his hands off my Senator.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:06 PM
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13. I cant see her as Obama's VP
Not that she would be a bad choice, just the opposite, but Obama already has to fend off the racist crowd in the GE, adding a woman to that mix would just make his job that much harder due to the swing state sexists getting upset.

(Hillary, up until her ambition got the better of her and she started attacking Obama could have been his VP choice due to her national name recognition.)

Plus he needs to reinforce his foreign policy experience to combat McCain.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:08 PM
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16. I'm of the belief that a female gov of a red state (if well respected) would be a huge boon
in terms of demographics.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:08 PM
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15. Perhaps it will be someone who gave him a much-needed boost in an impoartant state, like Bob Casey
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:11 PM
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23. I wouldnt mind seeing that one.
Casey reminds me of Chevy Chase for some reason.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:43 PM
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34. ObamaCasey.com
Interesting registration information.
Registrant:
Andrew Lekoski
6758 Wedgewood Place
Hollywood, California 90068
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: OBAMACASEY.COM
Created on: 28-Mar-08
Expires on: 29-Mar-09
Last Updated on: 28-Mar-08

That address - 6758 Wedgewood Place, Hollywood, California 90068 - leads me to here: http://www.rsdirectory.com/listingresults.php?letter=z&category_id=9
Zero Gravity Entertainment
6758 Wedgewood Place
Hollywood, California 90068
t: view phone (323) 882-6750
w: http://www.showdesigner.com
e: info@showdesigner.com

showdesigner.com takes us to http://showdesigner.com">this page on zerogravityonline.com.
Welcome to the new world of special effects for theme parks, theater venues, live events and tradeshows. Using extremely light and flexible components and creative engineering, we can show you how your show or event can benefit from visual special effects and new technology without the complexity and high-end expense of traditional fabrication or designs.

Our creative technologies have been used for such venues as Disney on ice, Crystal Cruises and a host of others. Let us help bring special effects and animation to life for your project!

I should say that this may simply be a case of domain speculation and that "Zero Gravity Entertainment" may have absolutely nothing to do with the Obama campaign. In fact, that is likely the case. But it's still intriquing. Does Obama use any kind of "special effects" at his rallies?
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:09 PM
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17. Sebelius and Richardson have been my one and two picks, but I doubt it will be either of them. n/t
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:10 PM
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19. A good pick, if he gets the nomination and he hasn't already cut a deal with a big city mayor. n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:10 PM
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22. Wasn't her response to the SOTU speech monumentally boring?
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure if I get what all the fuss is about.

I'd like to see someone like Dodd or Feingold; Richardson would make sense, too.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:15 PM
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25. Nothing outshines Gary Locke on the Boring Scale of Dem Responses
That drooler will go down in History
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:30 PM
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31. It did seem a bit stiff but in the video of her Obama endorsement she is lively and very listenable
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:13 PM
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24. There are just so many good choices...
I honestly think that VP needs to be someone from west of the Mississippi. And a woman would help bring in those women for Clinton who might feel slighted. I've also thought maybe a jewish woman would be a good choice, to also help with the doubts that SOME jewish voters have about Obama. Feinstein is an ardent Hillary backer, isn't she? And she may be very happy with where she is now anyway. Even though she's a Hillary person, she is brilliant.

Honestly, though, Obama doesn't seem like the kind of person who would pick a VP just to shore up votes.

And that's why Richardson would be a good choice. It would help with the west, but the main attraction is his experience in statesmanship. There are some dems who think that would make the ticket too "ethnic" but I think it's the kind of bold move Obama would make, picking the person who is best for the job even though some folks might shy away from a black/brown ticket.

And in that situation, it would be great to have Webb or Clarke or Clark as SecDef. If Sebellius is VP then Richardson would have to be Secretary of State.
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:25 PM
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29. I Like Her A Lot........
Sebelius will be a great choice if there is a lot of "heat" over not having a woman on the ticket. I was really impressed with Sebelius when she campaigned for Obama in Mississippi.

But I still think Obama's best choice is Keystone Governor Ed Rendell. As a VP he would deliver Pennsylvania. If you look at the electoral map and can guarantee Pennsylvania for Obama... his presidential hopes look real good.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:25 PM
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30. I am hoping he goes with Wes Clark or Joe Biden. I don't think Kathleen adds anything
to the ticket, really.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:34 PM
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32. She seems a very logical pick. Not sure Boxer wants the hassle from her past statements.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:40 PM by barack the house
Similar age to Sen. Clinton so really no grumble there. Has good likeablity factor too.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:42 PM
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33. Hopefully it'll be Wes Clark.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:57 PM
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35. Wes Clark was Hillary's pick. He doesn't fit with Obama.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:20 PM
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38. She picked him for Veep? I must have missed that...
....:sarcasm:

He is in her camp, which is why it would be a good move on Obama's part to pick him...

A four star General to combat POW-man's military experience, and a certified liberal to boot...

Obama/Clark would be a BRILLIANT ticket imho...
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:56 PM
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40. You didn't miss anything. I think if Hillary got the nomination, Wes was a shoe-in for VP
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:01 PM
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36. i really hope he does.
she's well liked in the south.
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:07 PM
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37. He doesn't need the south
He needs the women vote.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:58 PM
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41. The south is not irrelevant.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:26 PM
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39. Probably
Being a pragmatist here. I think we're pushing the envelope enough just having an African American at the top of the ticket. I think we need to put a standard white male on the ticket with him so America won't be stepping quite so far out of their comfort zone.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:58 PM
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42. What about Ed Rendell?
Anyone considered him?
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:06 PM
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43. I 've been STRONGLY advocating Obama pick a female running mate NOT Hillary & Sebelius is good, but
I personally think that Barbara Boxer with her much longer record, especially on foreign policy, would be better. But there surely will be LOTS of disappointed women, mainly although not exclusively those who voted in the primaries campaign, and a female running mate will hopefully strongly diminish that problem for most of them. As for Hillary Clinton herself and her PERSONAL fans, I am sure that there are a MYRIAD of ways (S Ct has been suggested by some) that a central and active role -- quite possibly or probably more appealing than the VP spot at least in the short run (next 8 years) -- for HRC can and would be found in case of an Obama victory in November.

I think that Barbara Boxer is about as strong as any possible choice both as a candidate and as a prospective president, although I don't know if she ever considered running for president or if anyone has talked about her running for president in any significant forum. But with her experience AND her 'demographic' and many other qualities (her leadership on the Greenhouse issue, for example), I think that she would be just about the best possible all around choice for Obama.

I am COMPLETELY nonprivvy to what the thinking is on these things WITHIN the Obama campaign. Sebelius has been raised including by many politically knowledgeable individuals, though of course, like Boxer, she doesn't really come from a swing state. Some have thought maybe a candidate from MO would be better.

But still, I think generally progressives should UNITE for a push for a female on the ticket this year, though I do NOT think it necessary or wise to unite behind HRC as that female. (HRC would bring all her baggage and her electoral negatives that Obama could otherwise easily avoid to the ticket). Boxer (or Sebelius) would give us the BENEFIT without the downside, AND THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO BOTH UNIFY AND AVOID THOSE POLITICAL NEGATIVES. I am not at all convinced that McCain will be easy at all to beat in Nov., and it would be a travesty for the Repuglican party to remain in power after all the damage they have consistently done AS A PARTY AND NOT JUST W.
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terrell9584 Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:23 PM
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44. only state she helps him in is Kansas
No where else, because no one knows who who she is. He has to have a war hero to counteract McCain and it has to be a Southerner. He's kind of painted himself into that corner with who his base has been in the primary (people less likely to vote for the other side as opposed to Clinton voters) Clinton would have more latitude, though she'd also need a way to blunt the war hero thing
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:24 PM
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45. I think that she would be awesome!
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