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Mon Apr-21-08 01:47 PM
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BREAKING: No debate in NC on 4/27 |
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AN APRIL 27 DEBATE IN RALEIGH BETWEEN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES BARACK OBAMA AND HILLARY CLINTON HAS BEEN CANCELED.
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:48 PM
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Mon Apr-21-08 03:12 PM
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72. They are both scheduled to speak at Raleigh J-J Dinner, May 2nd, which will, no doubt, be televised |
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I, for one, will not miss the media talking heads trying to score cheap points with both our candidates. Stephanopolous and Gibson made the Republican party's night with their inane tabloid-style "debate."
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Mon Apr-21-08 03:54 PM
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76. I'm sure Timmy Russert was upset that he didn't |
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Get to do the same thing he did to Hillary to Barack Obama.
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:49 PM
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I wonder what this means?
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:50 PM
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5. It means Obama knows 'debates' are his weakest venue. |
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:52 PM
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12. No...just that he'd rather deal with GOP arguments against him when there's a Republican on stage |
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not a Democrat who is impersonating a Republican.
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:54 PM
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:52 PM
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14. The last I heard........... |
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...it was Hillary that was backtracking on it..............
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:44 PM
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65. "Clinton had accepted an invitation to participate. Obama’s campaign had said it was still checking |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:02 PM
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Or maybe it means he's sick of bullshit "debates" which have nothing to do with issues. |
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How the fuck does a discussion of Made in China, sold at Wal Mart goddamned useless swastika flag lapel pins get our troops out of Iraq??
How does endless distortion of the cherry picked words of a Chicago minister address the downward toilet spiral of the US economy, brought on by 28 consecutive years of trickle-down voodoo reverse Robin Hood economics?
After tomorrow, there will be no need for any further primary debates regardless. But if there were any, why bother, unless it's a real debate? And the corporate media has no intention of allowing such a thing.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:08 PM
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:14 PM
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50. Got to love those town-halls!! |
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Imagine answering questions by actual voters! Unfortunately they don't ask the questions you all want to hear...about tie pins, Reverend Wright, Rezko, his white grandmother, his black grandmother, the $200 campaign donation he received from Ayers..etc, etc, etc...
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:40 PM
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63. Good move on Obama's part, IMO |
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Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 02:41 PM by guruoo
I'd play it safe if I were him.
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Mon Apr-21-08 03:14 PM
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73. not many bomb a debate the way Obama did last week! |
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Mon Apr-21-08 04:36 PM
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79. Not many bomb a campaign like Hillary has all year |
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:51 PM
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9. It was originally scheduled for 4/19 and Barack agreed to it |
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Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 02:12 PM by WesDem
Then it was changed to 4/27 and Clinton agreed to that.
I guess they couldn't get the dates together.
Edit: Sorry, sorry - the original date was April 19 :dunce:
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:59 PM
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28. They were going to have a debate... |
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...the evening of the PA primary?
That seems strange.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:02 PM
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32. Isn't the PA primary tomorrow? Or have I had a brain fart? |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:04 PM
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37. yes it is - unless they cancelled that too... |
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...the post above mine said 4/22 was the original date they were trying for the nc primary.
strange, I know.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:07 PM
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41. Oh, good. This thing has been so long already! I can't wait to get it DONE!!! |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:10 PM
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46. I know - I need to clean my house, but I spend all my... |
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...free time on this primary.
PA put us over the top!
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:09 PM
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44. It was scheduled for that date by the debate organizers |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:11 PM
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...I just thought everyone was as crazy as us and knows the dates of all the primaries!
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:17 PM
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53. I had the date wrong - originally 4/19 |
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:52 PM
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10. It means he doesn't need free air time and doesn't want to keep taking her |
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shit while defending her from attacks. That's what it means.
He doesn't need it. He's gonna kick her ass around town down here!!! :headbang:
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:07 PM
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42. DING DING DING! NC_Nurse, you're our grand prize winner! |
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It means he doesn't need free air time... Or more precisely, he doesn't need to give HER free national air time--now that it's http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5579334&mesg_id=5579949">the only kind she can afford! :headbang: rocknation
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:32 PM
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62. hopefully Hillary will be holding a press conference on Wednesday morning that will give your answer |
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:49 PM
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3. I didn't need to hear more about Flag Pins anyway. |
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:54 PM
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21. Or about whether an honorably discharged Former Marine who has been invited to the WH (Rev. Wright) |
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LOVES his Country as much as his *darkie brother.* :puke: :thumbsdown:
Rev. Wright loves his country more than the pseudo journalistic PIGS who covertly play race as a wedge issue.
Someone needs to ask McCain if Rev. Hagee loves his country as much as this Admiral's son who, save for his brave endurance as a POW, has lived in the lap of luxury.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:04 PM
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36. And I'm pretty much brushed up on the preacher stuff. |
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Yup, I think we're good to go.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:06 PM
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39. Yep. All the important issues have been covered. |
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All those silly superficial things like the economy and the war would be the only things they would cover in the next debates. And no one cares about those. :rofl:
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:49 PM
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4. no reasons yet...hmmmm. Internals not looking good |
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:50 PM
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6. She was hoping for a repeat of ABC, once a month until August |
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my heart pumps peanut butter for her
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:50 PM
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Now I won't get to hear the all important answers to follow up flag pin questions.
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:50 PM
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interesting... of course I'm not silly enough to believe this means Hillary is dropping out, what with her stronghold in Guam still to go...
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:52 PM
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11. but...but...what about: |
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Wright, flap lapel pins, Ayers, bitterness, rezko, possible gossip....
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:52 PM
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13. Good. It's foolish to show up if it's going to be a National Enquirer-style |
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format rather than on issues.
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:53 PM
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:52 PM
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15. does that mean that this will be over in 5 days???? |
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:54 PM
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18. I hope so. If it isn't, it will be over May 6th. |
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:53 PM
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17. maybe it's becuase one of her senior advisors has to go before |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:01 PM
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:54 PM
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19. AMEN.. no need for it..just a waste of time at this point |
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Why give her free airtime to slime him? Let her pay for it..oh wait. she's wasted all that donated money already..
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:54 PM
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:55 PM
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23. Good. if they are going to set them up as traps against 1 candidate |
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:55 PM
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24. Is that because Hillary will be out of the race? |
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:56 PM
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25. We've had too many as it is. |
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I tuned in to the last one for a few minutes and then switched channels. I wouldn't have wasted my time watching this one anyway. I'm eager to move on to the Obama-McCain debates. :-)
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:57 PM
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By this point, hasn't everyone already made a decision anyway? These endless so-called debates are just irritating. I think most people are sick of them.
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Mon Apr-21-08 01:57 PM
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27. The NC democratic party gets it |
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"growing concerns about what another debate would do to party unity"
They made the right call.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:02 PM
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33. Baloney. I think Howard Dean is calling this. Jerry Meeks, our Dem Party chair, |
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came out of nowhere to take control of the Dem party (without support of the Big Boys in the State, like the Governor and Edwards when he was still Senator)after 2004. Meeks was a huge Dean supporter.
I'd bet big bucks that Dean is behind this.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:02 PM
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34. that is the right call |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:00 PM
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29. Thank you Lord God in Heaven. |
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The debates serve absolutely no purpose at this point--if you don't know the candidates' positions you either haven't been paying attenion or don't care.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:00 PM
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No Presidential Debate for N.C. WRAL Election 2008 logo
Posted: 7 minutes ago
Raleigh, N.C. — A proposed debate in Raleigh between Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton has been called off, officials said Monday.
CBS had agreed to host a debate next Sunday at the RBC Center and televise the event nationally. Clinton agreed to the date, but Obama, who had earlier committed to an April 19 debate, said repeatedly he wasn't sure whether he could fit an April 27 debate into his campaign schedule.
The North Carolina Democratic Party said in a statement Monday that the logistics of staging a national event on short notice, if Obama were to agree to the debate this week, were too daunting to try to pull everything together. Democratic officials also said there were "growing concerns about what another debate would do to party unity."
Clinton and Obama have agreed to attend the state's annual Jefferson-Jackson Dinner on May 2 in Raleigh.
The dinner will be four days before North Carolina's May 6 primary, which is seen as critical in the tight race for the Democratic nomination.
Copyright 2008 by WRAL.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:02 PM
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35. wow, the state party doesnt want to have another dirty debate.... |
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bye Hillary, we dont want to play your dirty games anymore
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:06 PM
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40. We're polite down here. That's why Barack is going to take NC BIG time. |
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Southerners don't tend to like IN YOUR FACE nastiness like that last POS debate. There are some exceptions, of course, like Lee Atwater and his ilk. For the most part, we like honor and integrity and civilized discourse, not tabloid trash.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:42 PM
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64. Is it still looking as good as ever for Obama down there? |
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Last I heard, Obama was leading in polls by 13%.
How is it looking on the ground?
BTW, my dad was stationed at Fort Bragg when I was a kid so I remember the fireflies, thunderstorms, and hospitality!
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Mon Apr-21-08 04:32 PM
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77. Yes, it's looking really good. I'm hoping for 20 points at least. I like to shoot |
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for the moon. :D
We have been working hard, despite the fact that he will clearly win the state.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:19 PM
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57. And I've got my tickets for the JJ dinner. |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:05 PM
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38. Good. no free media for the also-ran. n/t |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:09 PM
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45. WTF? Democrats refusing to debate!!?? That's it -- I'm done with..... |
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Oops. Forgot they've already had like 748 debates.
There is no reason to continue debating. If you don't have a sense of who you're going to vote for by now, bring a coin to the polls and flip it. I'll wait for the Obama/McCain debates TYVM.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:12 PM
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No need to feed the animals when you lead here. If I were advising Obama, I would have advised declining it as well. And remember, CLINTON turned down a debate here first that Obama had agreed to. So all you Clinton apologists remember, if you complain about Obama not doing this particular one, you're being HYPOCRITICAL.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:12 PM
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After the last "debate" I'm not surprised this one was cancelled. After 20 debates there is nothing substantive left to learn about either candidate. The 21st debate was proof of that fact. Rather than giving TV personalities a chance to tee off on either candidate in the hopes of making more of a name for themselves it would be time better spent for the candidates to meet with the people of NC.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:16 PM
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51. good, these debates are nothing but rovian attacks on Obama |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:16 PM
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52. LOL well of course not! |
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I would rather hear him talking to his contributors anyway, far more informative!
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:17 PM
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Intill the general election Inless they are sponsored by the DNC and have non right wing media whores he should not debate.The ABC so called debate was a slime Obama event.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:18 PM
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I've heard enough from the shitty MSM.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:18 PM
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omg....real questions about his life long buddies, and he can stand te heat!
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:46 PM
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66. You are really bitter, huh... |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:53 PM
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68. tough shit for you that hilly won't be able to throw any of l;ying |
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crap out in front of a national audience. Instead you'll get to watch her wilt at the JJ dinner as everyone igores her.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:21 PM
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58. Yeah we really need 22 to be extra sure! |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:26 PM
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59. Consider the kitchen got out of. |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:30 PM
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60. Maybe Hillary realizes that Obama's tired of taking her shit |
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and just may call her on some of it. He's been more considerate than she deserves.
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Mon Apr-21-08 03:29 PM
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75. He's the one who backed out of it. |
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:30 PM
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61. Thanks be to the FSM. |
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He has indeed answered our Noodly prayers.
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Mon Apr-21-08 02:52 PM
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67. was to be moderated by Katie Couric. |
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Mon Apr-21-08 03:00 PM
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69. Maybe we should boycott all debates even general election |
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unless hosted by C-span. After seeing what ABC was capable of doing I don't see the point in having a corporate run network hosting again
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Mon Apr-21-08 03:02 PM
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70. They are a pointless excercise really. 20 plus debates are more than enough for me. |
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Mon Apr-21-08 03:02 PM
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71. Good. No more fraking debates that do nothing but harm democrats. |
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The first 10 were more than enough.
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Mon Apr-21-08 03:27 PM
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74. I guess Obama's finally realized he's better at speeches than answers. |
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Mon Apr-21-08 04:34 PM
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78. he hasn't quit doing town hall meetings. He's best at answering REAL |
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questions, not mud wrestling.
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