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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:26 PM
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"I'm bkmarking this thread so I can dig it up when Hillary becomes president"
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 04:33 PM by Emit
president."

Emit (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-10-06 08:07 PM
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162. I'm bookmarking this thread so I can dig it up when Hillary becomes
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 08:08 PM by Emit
pwesident in 2008 and then we can revisit this topic again!

Seriously, though, tasteblind, I, for one, have similar thoughts and concerns. How can any of us not, really? And seriously, I am bookmarking your thread. What's that old saying? Life is strangeer than fiction ...



That was my response to this post below by tasteblind. It is interesting to read through the responses. It might be a bit premature to post this now, as, clearly, Hillary is actually losing to Obama. But, I will resurrect it again if she wins, I promise. Shout out to tasteblind :hi:, who wrote this over two years ago:


tasteblind (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-09-06 08:57 PM
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We are being manipulated.

I'm convinced that a combination of the media and election tampering has already taken our democracy from us.

Al Gore was completely destroyed by the media in 2000, and yet still won the popular vote by a convincing half-million votes. He should have won Florida, if not for a well-planned and executed "felon" purge that removed thousands of likely Democratic votes from Florida.

Gore won the 2000 election, but was not allowed to ascend to the Presidency, thanks to a well-planned and managed attack on Florida's voting machinery.

Bush predicted victory even when networks announced grim electoral results early on Election Night. The totals eventually backed him up, and the media perpetuated the Sore-Loserman idea.

Bush, in his post 9/11 address, inexplicably warned against conspiracy theorists, when seemingly the entire world was enrapt in a "Let's Roll" storyline.

We were told that Bush was a two-term president long before November 2, 2004, and it was merely a set-up, a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Kerry, despite winning all three debates, was totally ignored by the media, and bizarre voting phenomena helped to lose him the Presidency. Anyone who questioned it was labeled a conspiracy theorist.

Now we are told, even by Bush himself ("Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton"), that Hillary is our next president.

Watch over the next year as coverage of Democrats and Republicans shifts dramatically.

Indeed, it began with Katrina, and continues today with the LA terror lies.

The media will start to question Republicans more, and Democrats less.

Democrats will get equal airtime again, and will be allowed to make Republicans look silly on national television, as Bill Clinton did regularly.

We will even get help in doing so from many of the same sources that have hurt us in the past few years, like Chris Matthews and Tim Russert.

Will we pat ourselves on the back when Hillary is President?

If the outcome is pre-ordained, this isn't democracy.

But the exchange of power between sides is meant to silence criticism and eliminate suspicion.

So when the storyline that is already being peddled comes to be, will we be so happy to be rid of Bush that we will accept Clinton?

Do we prefer the illusion of democracy so long as our side appears to be in control?

Or do we want real democracy, and a return to a government of, by, and for the people?

Y'all might think I'm crazy now, but when Hillary wins in '08, just like everyone on television predicted she would, even President Bush, I hope you will wonder if this is all just an elaborate ruse to reassure us that we are in control, when the reality is that we are being manipulated.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=372270#382145

edited to add a link
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:47 PM
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1. Who is going to vote for her?
The Republicans? Because there sure as hell are a lot of Dems who won't be, especially given her Rovian tacits.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:47 PM
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10. I will. It'll suck, but I'd take a Clinton over a Bush any day of the week.
Certainly a harsh Clinton is better than a fact-rejecting Bush-lite.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:07 PM
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11. I tried.
In my caucus back in January. I was very conflicted when my first two choices weren't viable, and had reasoned before hand that Hillary was the more reasonable choice. I literally couldn't vote for her. It was almost physical in the sense that I couldn't bear writing her name on my ballot. I just couldn't do it.

That was in the caucus, though, when there was a choice left.

Come GE time, if she is the nominee, we will have no choice but to cast our ballot for her, IMHO.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:29 PM
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12. fact-rejecting?
You mean like hilly rejecting the latest NIE re: Iran? She maintains they're after nukes ya know. And shes ready to "obliterate" the country.

So, shes better than a fact rejecting bush lite ... How????
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:35 PM
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13. She seems to be proving herself more bush lite every day
at least that's the impression I'm getting
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:40 PM
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15. As far as I am concerned,
there isn't much difference between her and McCain. She is showing her true colors now.

No, I will not go out and vote for McCain, but I can stay home.
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TPILOL Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:05 PM
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17. Meh
Hate to say it but Rovian tactics work.
Sometimes you gotta bite a bullet in the name of progress
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:15 PM
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2. What are you going to do when she doesn't?
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:48 PM
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5. Let it sink?
;)
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:18 PM
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3. Wow. Tasteblind was spot on BUT he didn't foresee Obama
I don't think anyone did, at that time. That's why things are so crazy now!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:34 PM
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4. Interesting to look back on this. Check this response out
leftstreet (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-09-06 09:10 PM
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13. Excellent post

McCain win vs Hillary win = no difference.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:50 PM
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6. Truth in that statement. Hillary = McCain is as honest as it gets. Thank God Obama will win this.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:43 PM
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9. I guess they didn't see Obama coming
Is that why she appears so desperate? She thought she had this in the bag?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:22 PM
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7. Well... everything will be crystal clear if the superDs overturn the results
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:28 PM
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8. We do live in interesting times
don't we?

I've never been so cynical of my government in my life.

If the superDs overturn the results, well ... I just can't even go there right now. Let's let this play out. I hope I do not have to bring this thread back up again.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:54 PM
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14. kick
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:06 PM
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16. kick
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