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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:01 PM
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"Obama refused to put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance." -- Lyin' Tim Russert
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 07:02 PM by David Zephyr
Corporate America's chief propagandist yesterday on his "Meet the Press" made the outrageous assertion that-

Barack Obama "refused" to place his hand over his heart during the "pledge of allegiance".

Of course, Tim Russert KNOWS that there is a photo of Barack with his hands to his side DURING the Star Spangled Banner, NOT the pledge. Still just how does Russert KNOW that Obama REFUSED to place his hand over his heart at anytime?

Russert: The biggest liar in the world.

And of course, Karl Rove was on television wearing his "flag pin" while talking to Obama Basher Chris Wallace.

Anyone who doesn' think the kill is now in for Obama as it was for Howard Dean by the corporate media is in for a heartbreaking surprise.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:02 PM
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1. When I heard that, I was hoping Axelrod would correct him
but, alas, he did not.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:05 PM
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3. I'm glad other heard Tim Russert's great lie. What a piece of shit, Russert is.
The white, fat corporate whore Russert.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:22 PM
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10. And the longer smarmy consultants like Axelrod, et al run the campaigns
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 07:23 PM by depakid
the longer Democrats will continue to be beaten up with impunity- AND they'll miss opportunity after opportunity to hand weasels like Russert their asses in their hands.

Believe me (or read Frank Rich: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/opinion/20rich.html?em&ex=1208923200&en=ba82ce75f3eaa917&ei=5087%0A )

The gig's long since been up. Americans by in large are sick to death of media whores and presstitutes. And few things would please them better than seeing these condescending TV pundits get the upbraiding and ridicule that they deserve.

Candidates who start doing that in no uncertain terms will gain both respect and a LOT of populist mileage over their opponents.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:30 PM
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20. My grandpa: Rowland Ward Bishop, WWI vet and all around genuine
patriot and human, humane being never put his hand over his heart. He stood with his hands behind his back or together in the front -in the living room or elsewhere- and paid his genuine respects. This shit that they are warbling was started by who? Reagan? Fuck that. Impugn Obama on this, you impugn my grandpa and those are fighting words.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:03 PM
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2. You mean like this?
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:07 PM
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5. hand over crocth, arm cross and reach for wallet inside suit
there are just many different versions now.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:30 PM
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12. He's patriotic, he just has gas...
And the young man in the blue blazer looks like he just got hit by some friendly fire.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:48 PM
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14. I have no trouble believing his heart is in his bowels.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:06 PM
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4. The mediawhores are really scared and
and bringing out the big guns to take Obama down but like Obama says..

NOT THIS TIME.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:02 PM
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16. Hello, my precious zidzi.
I've been away a bit, but I'm back.

And, yes, they are "bringing out the big guns to take Obama down."

We must stand with him.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:24 PM
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17. Glad you're back, David..
We need you :hug: I'm going to see the Dalai Lama tomorrow on Earth Day and come back tomorrow night & HOPE for the Best!
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:07 PM
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6. I was watching and it pissed me off.
I fired off an email to MTP, but I'm sure no one will read it or take any notice of it.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:10 PM
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7. Thanks for action.
That was pretty lousy. Thanks for sending an e-mail.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:11 PM
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8. And John Kerry caused POWs to be tortured - and Gore invented the internet - and....
that's the way it is.

Difference now is that more Americans are finally tuning them out.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:19 PM
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9. He didn't do that but so fuckin what?
I don't give a shit if the guy we hire to run the executive branch of the government puts his hand over his heart I don't give a rats ass if he is a good bowler, I don't care if he has a cheap chinese pin in his lapel.

I just want him to realize he works for us. I think Obama realizes this. I think Hillary thinks she's running for queen.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:39 PM
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13. Agreed. And the people that believe this crap will probably vote McCain anyway
So what's the bottom line?

I think the bottom line is that when idiots crack these issues open like a six pack of warm Coors, someone has to step up and say - loudly --

I AM NOT DRINKING THAT PISS-WATER!

--and then get on with what really matters. And, if said idiot cracks another warm one, spend just enough time on a rebuttal to ridicule him for not getting it the first time, then move on. Repeat as required, and move on.

These are base distractions, and the more we get distracted, they more those who would have us distracted win. Now, that doesn't mean we play "See No Evil/Hear No Evil." It just means we respond quickly, fiercely, and then...

...that's right. We move on.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:24 PM
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11. I don't understand the point of repeatedly saying the Pledge of Allegiance.
Don't they believe you the first time? Do kids have to say it every morning because somehow their citizenship wears off overnight while they're sleeping? It's pointless.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:50 PM
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15. I despise it. It's not good writing, it's insipid vapid patriotism.
As a pledge goes it is utterly meaningless. Pledges should be reserved for oaths of office, inductions, etc. I'll probably get slammed by someone but I really really detest the pledge of allegiance. Deeds, not creeds!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:24 PM
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18. Well - all us "elitists" know better than to listen to the lamestream media...
...let the knuckle-draggers have them.

I turned them off in 2001. Haven't regretted it since. Every time I see a post or YouTube video like this one, I'm glad I did. I can't afford to go through that many teevees anyway.

They're insipid, juvenile, petty, drooling, chest-beating, knuckle-dragging little schoolyard bullies. Whores for corporations. They're the very antithesis of journalism or public service. How or why they are still allowed use of the airwaves I have no idea.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:23 PM
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19. They are trying anything to protect their own
as I posted on Friday they are going to do anything to keep their "known known" in the race. Obama simply doesn't have enough dirt on him yet to be sure that he will stay under control.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5566767

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:13 PM
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21. Thanks for the link.
I guess I'm not alone. They are out to destroy Obama. The knives have come out. We will know who his friends are after this week. And we will know who are out to destroy his candidacy at any costs.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:20 PM
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22. Just go to u-tube burn the Obamaswearing alligence clip and send to everyone you know is my answer..
mark cd with pass it on. Post door to door.
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