That was a cheap tactic Olbermann used

[MonkeyFunk]

Interview Clinton, then belittle and challenge her answers with a correspondent, after she leaves. Pretty unfair, in my opinion.

[Diamond Dog]

How was it unfair?

If her answers were blatant bullshit, he ought to have called her on it while she was being interviewed. I found it to be rather cowardly, actually.

[papau]

39. True - it was standard smear Clinton KO - nothing unusual

[barb162]

73. That's right. I swear Keith is paid by the Obama campaign.

[roguevalley]

98. he had a few minutes and several questions. the dame should have

given him more time but she had larry king to go to. Frankly, he did a service illuminating this and allowing her to address what the two idiots of ABC let fly past:

Said Clinton on Good Morning America, "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran. In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

[Cosmocat]

54. She did that fake laugh and disemble thing ...

the whole time ...

He asked her about the Scaife endorsement, she did the fake laugh and rattled on for a couple minutes ... He just had to move on ... Pretty much the way the whole interview went ,..

[Tellurian]

69. The laugh is the precursor to her response to the interviewer's loaded question..

geeze, I would have thought people would have figured that out by now..

[Cosmocat]

91. So ...

During the ABC debate last week, you would have had no problem with Obama letting out a loud, fake laugh before answering any of BS questions tossed at him during the first hour ???

[Hieronymus]

106. That laugh will be her undoing .. what a phony.

[TLM]

76. Haven't you been paying attention?

Anything that isn't attacking obama is vicious and unfair to Clinton in the eyes of her supporters.

[Hawkeye-X]

1. So what's wrong with factchecking?

:eyes:

[Coexist]

2. sounds like standard post-debate coerage to me.

[scheming daemons]

3. Her answers warranted belittlement...and she filibustered every answer so long as to...

...leave no time for followups.


If she can't stand the heat, she should get out of the kitchen.

[LisaM]

4. What did you expect?

I'm sure he would have done the same with Obama......oh, wait. NOT! lolol.

[tekisui]

5. I didn't see it, but

I know when Thom Hartmann has guests on, he won't let callers pile-on after the guest leaves and isn't able to defend themselves. And, I admire that.

[TML]

6. Freaking brilliant!

I'm watching the replay in an hour (sorry, Game 7 playoff games are more important), but why not? If he challenged her on the spot, then she wouldn't have been as forthcoming with her responses.

[Bonobo]

7. Agreed. He should have challenged her to her face.

[Peregrine Took]

18. He was too "sceered" to challenge her to her face. What a creep.

[SwampG8r]

38. which of her at least 2 faces should he have addressed them too?

[Norrin Radd]

84. DUzy

[SwampG8r]

95. kinda new whats a duzy

and did i get one?

[Norrin Radd]

107. I'll nominate you for one

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3180815

[TahitiNut]

86. Bingo

:thumbsup:

It may have been a precondition of her appearance that he NOT rebut her during her interview. (I wouldn't be surprised.)

[dkf]

75. He didn't have time. He had 15 mins for the whole thing.

[MadBadger]

8. Her answers were way too long

He wanted to ask questions on certain subjects, but for a TV interivew, her answers were too long to allow follow ups.

[MonkeyFunk]

14. That's an excuse

but I still think it's cheap to challenge her answers only after she's gone. What would Edward R. Murrow do?

[Diamond Dog]

19. Called her on her blatant bullshit. n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

21. No

he didn't call her on anything.

He talked shit about her after she left. That's not an honorable way to conduct an interview.

[Diamond Dog]

24. Right. He should have called her on her blatant bullshit to her face.

So we can at least agree that it's blatant bullshit, right?

[MonkeyFunk]

28. No, we don't agree on that at all

I think you guys are blinded by hate. It's ugly.

[Diamond Dog]

30. You're absolutely right. I hate the Democratic Leadership Council.

I also hate anybody prepared to be the iceberg to the Democratic Party's Titanic. That includes Senator Clinton.

[MonkeyFunk]

40. And that makes you too cool for school?

The hilarious part that you guys don't see is that your candidate and my candidate are 99% identical on policy issues. It makes you look like an idiot when you claim to hate her "wing" of the party, when your guy is firmly ensconced there.

[Exilednight]

42. But they're 99% different on the believability scale. You can't deny that Hillary has a long.......

history of saying one thing and doing the opposite.

I take that back, you can deny it, but you'd be wrong.

[Diamond Dog]

46. Interesting, that.

I just recently read that Obama was the "George McGovern of 2008". I've also heard him referred to as the "Lyndon B. Johnson" of 2008.

Which is it? Get your narratives straightened out. If they're so close that they're virtually indistinguishable, you shouldn't have a side in this fight. If they're diametrically opposed, then I have a valid reason to support him against her.

[MonkeyFunk]

50. I said on policy

and in fact, policy is a very small part of what people evaluate to decide whom to vote for.

I think Clinton is stronger, smarter, savvier, and more capable. But I like Obama - he's got a future.

[roguevalley]

100. I guess its the bosnia thing that caps it. Until obama comes out with

an equally delusional war story I give him the edge.

[dchill]

70. Hey, that's what I was gonna say!

:toast:

[Chulanowa]

60. He still has a schedule to maintain

And Hillary's hemming and hawing and nonsense answers made it so that he could only get in the scripted questions, and no followups or calls of shenanigans.

They needed challenging, and she made it so that he was unable to challenge them in the time provided.

[roguevalley]

99. same thing. god. its called journalism. and I remember Edward R.

was around then so no lectures.

[SoCalDem]

68. She may be a graduate of the Condi Rice School of excrutiatingly long answers

than never say anything :)

[Altitude 5280]

9. But He Did Tell Her

That she herself has said in the past that McCain would make a good President.

[Olney Blue]

64. To which Hillary responded with a laundry list of negatives for McCain.

[roguevalley]

101. five pats on the back at other times for McCain too late.

[SunsetDreams]

10. He only had 15 minutes for an interview with too many questions to get in

He is very fair to question her, due to time restraints set by his network, he could not do so during interview

Kudos to KO!

[boston bean]

11. I thought he had a lot of nerve questioning her about meeting with someone who hated her

when he hates her and said just as many bad things about her as melon scaife, in particular comparing her to David Duke.

[MonkeyFunk]

12. hehe

I thought of that, too.

She should've said "Well, I'm here talking to YOU, Keith."

[boston bean]

20. yeah, that's what she should have said. Well I'm here talking to you asshat! nt

[Lucinda]

58. LOL

:rofl:

[roguevalley]

102. he quit news organizations because he wouldn't cover monica

gate. jeez, you people are sad. he actually was on their side. he just doesn't like assholery. of course, don't let that bother you. Hillarity and Bill have dumped people for decades when they are no use anymore. Why not Keith, who stood up for her thick and thin for a damned long time, until she turned into a dipshit.

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[MonkeyFunk]

23. excuse me?

Do you have anything adult to say?

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[MonkeyFunk]

41. Who are you, KAZ?

And why are you acting this way? Can you express your argument with something better than simple name-calling?

[Ian David]

15. That's what she gets for making him pre-tape her interview and only giving him 15 minutes.

Her rules, not his.

And anyone who throws Olbermann under the bus can go...

Oh, you know.

[MonkeyFunk]

25. You consider my OP

throwing him under the bus? You must be one of those superdelicates I read about here.

Many interviews are pre-recorded and most have time limits. That doesn't relieve him of the obligation not to be a dick after she leaves. It's just journalistically weak.

[Ian David]

29. She can always reply tomorrow.

And if Keith was wrong, he'll apologize.

[SunsetDreams]

32. He can do what he wants....he can question what he wants

Even if he had asked her, he could still question her answers.

Unlike some people we don't need to take Hillarys' answers as the truth lock stock and barrel.

You say he should have questioned her? He gave her the opportunity to answer his questions.

Is him questioning her answers somehow going to change her answer?

If she can't stand the heat, she needs to get out of the kitchen!

[Writer]

16. That's not cheap, that's cowardly. n/t

[OzarkDem]

17. Same tactics as O'Reilly and Pigboy

I've resisted agreeing with posters who call Olberman the O'Reilly of the left but I'm beginning to wonder.

[Medusa]

49. Exactly

he's not a journalist in the least. And I say that as an Obama fan.

[Timefortruth]

22. You are absolutely right,

Hillary is a victim. Vote for her.

[SunsetDreams]

26. ...

:nopity:

[TheDonkey]

27. Yes, it is unfair because it is true. Wipe the sleep out of your eye and wake up

They were responding to her spinilicious answers.

[MonkeyFunk]

31. Don't you think

it would've been more honorable to challenge her answers while she was still there?

[renate]

96. I do think so, too

I'm not a Clinton supporter and normally I think Keith is one of the few real journalists left on teevee news, but I was disappointed in him last night. After her interview was over and he was talking to Richard Wolff, he seemed to go beyond a reporterly questioning of her statements and into the realm of mockery. Not classy.

[Evergreen Emerald]

33. I have to laugh at the responses from the Obama supporters who just yesterday

were peeingtheirpantsinoutrage over Obama not getting the king-treatment. And yet, when Clinton is treated unfairly, they cheer.

So, a free press, an unbiased media is not what you want: you want them to attack Clinton and support Obama.

Lovely democracy.

[dchill]

34. It would be a cheap tactic if he'd distorted anything...

she said. He didn't. He's a journalist.

[MonkeyFunk]

43. No, he's not a journalist

and he proved it tonight.

[Mezzo]

36. Certainly seems like the wussy thing to do, but whatevs.

She should not have gone on there.

[Emit]

37. It could very well be, MonkeyFunk

that KO was only allowed to ask a certain set of questions that did not allow him to query her much ad lib. Someone else here at DU posted that it seemed she was aware of the questions a head of time.

[Maddy McCall]

44. Those same people said that she had the questions at the debate beforehand, too.

There's no proof to that.

She has a quick intellect, and responds well to questions. But I don't expect any of Obama's supporters to agree with me about this.

[Emit]

52. She was well prepared for the Ayers question in the debate

because her campaign has been pushing the story to reporters since at least February:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5592032&mesg_id=5592671

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores Her Own Radical Ties
By: Justin Rood

Feb. 22, 2008—
ABC News - The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group mentioned in the Obama stories.

"Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.

In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from the Politico newspaper reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member of the radical group.
-------

Opting to leave any attacks on the issue to the GOP may be wise, as attacks from Clinton could backfire. In his final day in office, President Clinton pardoned another one-time member of the Weather Underground, Susan L. Rosenberg, after she had served 16 years in prison on federal charges.

Rosenberg had been arrested in 1984 while unloading 740 pounds of dynamite, a submachine gun and other weapons from the back of a car.
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And in 1999, President Clinton also pardoned 16 violent Puerto Rican nationalists responsible for more than 100 bombings of U.S. political and military installations, after they promised to renounce violence. The attacks reportedly killed six people and wounded dozens more. In justifying the pardons, President Clinton noted none of the men had been convicted of crimes that resulted in death or injuries.
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=4330128

[MonkeyFunk]

45. If she knew the questions ahead of time

than KO is a bigger tool than anybody ever imagined.

The fact is, he should've challenged her answers then and there (allowing time to do so) or not have done it the way that he did after she was gone.

[Maddy McCall]

48. I see above that someone said that her answers were so long that he didn't have time.

But he had time to challenge and belittle her AFTER the interview.

It's like O'Reilly...he'll interview someone, and then cut them off and go on a rampage, because he doesn't have the guts to do it face-to-face.

[Emit]

53. No, what I mean is that to grant an interview, sometimes a candidate requests

the questions the interviewer wants to ask a head of time.

I didn't see it, so I don't really know how she responded or how KO reacted, etc. I just threw that out there as a possibility. :shrug:

[MonkeyFunk]

56. and just as a possibility

I'll throw out that Obama was totally coked up at his last town-hall meeting. I didn't see it, mind you, just saying it's possible.

[Raine]

47. Yeah he let her ramble on too much

should've gone after her while she was sitting there.

[Catherine Vincent]

51. I'm watching the repeat now....

[Liquorice]

55. That sounds like the same thing O'Reilly does. Olbermann will

almost certainly continue to attack her about the interview for days just like O'Reilly always does to his guests. It's very cowardly.

[cottonseed]

81. Keith's the progressive's newsman.

With Hillary being to the right of McCain, she's at an obvious disadvantage when on his show.

[rodeodance]

87. KO is NO progressive

[Straight Shooter]

57. Keith Obamaman. n/t

[barb162]

74. Oh that's good! That's exactly what he is.

He has completely gone over to the dark side.

[shugah]

59. i was very curious to see how KO would handle the interview

i think that Hillary, if given the choice, would have agreed to have it play the way it did. she got to answer the questions he asked without being challenged - she agreed to go on the show, no doubt because she is trying to reach as many people as possible before the voting starts tomorrow and he did give free reign to her for her responses. she can't have expected fluff questions from him but she must know KO well enough to know that he wasn't going to reverse ABC-debate question her. overall, i think they both did well in what had to have been an environment that was at least a little uncomfortable for both of them.

the point is - do you think Hillary would have preferred to be challenged on the spot rather than having the allotted time for answering the questions/making her points? i didn't see it the way you did, but i watch Keith regularly and i know that the massive retaliation umbrella and the scaiffe thing are troublesome to him. i don't think Hillary will be shocked if she catches the rest of the show. she was not on because she was trying to win him over.

[flowomo]

61. I agree.

A bit cowardly. But I gave up on KO a long time ago.

[guruoo]

62. He must have got the new BO memo - Throw stones only when one is safely out of range...

of any face to face, headsup debate....


Presidential debate in Raleigh canceled

RALEIGH — Plans for a Democratic presidential debate here have been scrapped,
state officials announced today.

The cancelation is due to time constraints and logistical issues, according to
a news release from the state Democratic Party.

Some Democratic leaders had expressed concerns that another debate between Sens.
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama would hurt party unity, the release said.

Clinton had accepted an invitation to participate. Obama’s campaign had said it
was still checking his schedule.

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=291975

[cottonseed]

80. Reminds me of her "proud to be here remark"...

then, "Shame on you Barack Obama"! That was a pretty weird thing for her to have done.

[meow mix]

63. did you call the Wahhhbulance?

they might be able to help you

[berni_mccoy]

65. As Harry Truman once said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

Didn't I just see that in a political ad somewhere?

[SoCalDem]

66. Why? When he asked her a tough question she just laughed

:rofl:

She will be bathed in balloons & confetti tomorrow night, and then on to Indiana or NC or wherever..

she's not going to stop, so just take a nice soothing nap, and don't worry about her... she's not worrying about you :hug:

[wisteria]

67. He asked her blunt questions and she had every opportunity to answer them as she wanted too.

I see nothing unfair in commenting on her answers to any questions.

[XemaSab]

71. Did he call her a cunt?

:shrug:

[bridgit]

88. Wow! That's a wide freaking berth, you could drive 3 Hummers through there...

and not even scuff the rear view mirrors, thanks for showing where the line is really drawn :thumbsup:

[barb162]

72. That's typical of the way he deals with Hillary.

Would he do that to Obama? NOOOOOOOOO! Keith has become useless as a respectable journalist.

[cottonseed]

78. I think Keith has just had it with right wing hacks...

probably explains his disdain for Hillary.

[knixphan]

97. explains mine.

[bridgit]

89. KO is a corporate media tool

[apocalypsehow]

77. Those seven days on DU after Sen. Obama is declared our nominee are going to be so sweet... n/t.

[Justitia]

79. "If you can't take the heat..." "Saddle up", "quit whining" -eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

82. I'm Glad I Didn't Watch

Is LeBron James the second coming of Michael Jordan or not?

[bridgit]

83. Typical shit, Ed Schultz runs the same game

[rodeodance]

85. KO is a coward to talk About her after she leaves.

[futureliveshere]

104. It was a pre-recorded 15min interview. He mentioned that there was no chance for follow-up questions

[DemVet]

90. Olbermann is a pussy.

[JoFerret]

92. Didn't see it

but it sounds gutless.
KO has lost all credibility anyway. Partisan ranting should be left to the expert - Colbert.

[shaniqua6392]

93. KO used to be our messenger.

Now he just goes whichever way the wind blows. I stopped watching him about 3 months ago when he had 4 out of his 5 stories for the night bashing Clinton in one way or another. He is a hack. For the record, I do not care for either of our candidates much. I will vote for the nominee though. I just hate Democrat bashing. She is a United States Senator. She is a Democrat and we should not be bashing her or Obama. I believe it weakens us as a party. If I wanted to watch a show that bashed Democrats, I would turn on Bill O'Reilly. KO has become Bill's equal. I will never watch him again because I can never forget what he has done to Clinton supporters.

[Medusa]

94. It was a bad interview.

He asked questions, then let her talk about anything but what the question was about. He didn't follow-up or follow-through. Then AFTER she is done, he then decides to get tough and say what he should have said on air to her after she was gone. She fillibusted, he was in over his head, just a bad interview all the way around. I saw Ann Curry of all people do much tougher (and better) interviews with both candidates this morning. When Ann Curry kicks your sorry ass, you know you're not cut out for the job.

[futureliveshere]

103. No smoke w/o a fire. Hillary gave some silly answers, got called out for it. Its called ANALYSIS!!

[Dr Fate]

105. Even if he did, the Repubs will use much "cheaper", and even more effective tactics.

They may even do it at "3 in the morning"- so if Hillary is handed the nom, she may as well get used to it.