Media silent on Clinton under pressure: Inappropriate laughing and strange comments.

[Skwmom]

She was just on Countdown. When asked about Scaife's endorsement she starts to laugh inappropriately - it was really bizarre. I think the guest who followed her said he thought it was a nervous tic (not sure b/c I was only half listening at that time). Before when she was questioned about Bill Clinton's 800k speech fee from Columbia she started laughing and said something weird about how many angels are on the head of a pin.

This footage could be the rebuttal ad to her latest scare ad. Watching her really made me feel unsettled (and I'm sure I'm not the only one who felt that way).

Why isn't the media talking about this?

[Emit]

1. I know the laugh you describe and it bothers me

She is not good at deflecting these kinds of questions and resorts to this behavior -- it's like a defense mechanism that kicks in or something.

Did she respond at all to the question about Scaife's endorsement, other than laugh, that is?

edit typo

[Skwmom]

2. Can you imagine if Obama had responded in this way?

It would be shown continuously. Heck, if she was the nominee the Republicans would have one heck of an attack ad. When they attacked McCain for his temper, he'd hit her back with this.

On edit: Yeah, she responded saying something about people could be redeemed or something along those lines.

[Emit]

3. Exactly

And she has gotten away with this a few times, IIRC.

But, did she have any comments regarding Scaiffe at all, or was it just the laugh? I am curious about whether she even tried to respond and give any details.

[Skwmom]

5. I edited my previous comment. She said something about

people could be redeemed, and that is demonstrated she was a uniter. Hey wait, isn't she folding to the Republicans (like she accused Obama of doing)? I thought she was supposed to be a fighter?

[chemenger]

86. She did respond but her response deflected away

from answering the immediate issue on the table, namely WHY WOULD SHE SIT DOWN WITH RM SCAIFE and his board of editors to discuss her campaign and presidential aspirations AFTER SCAIFE ACCUSED HER OF CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MURDER.

But as the saying goes ... political aspirations make for strange bedfellows. That and the fact that she would do anything for an endorsement.

[Blue Diadem]

8. Was that when she said something about a death bed conversion?

I think Keith said something about not having time to ask her what she meant by that.

[Emit]

9. death bed conversion?

What's that?

[Blue Diadem]

10. I don't know what she meant

DH and I just looked at each other when she said it. It was said in reference to Scaife endorsing her. I was glad that Keith caught the comment and mentioned it even if he didn't have time to ask her about it. It was IMO, a very odd comment.

[Emit]

12. Is Scaife ill?

I mean, a death bed conversion usually implies someone is on the verge of dying, no?

That is curious.

[Blue Diadem]

13. That was my first thought

Then I thought maybe she meant it as political death bed conversion..vast right wing conspiracy to endorsement? I don't know..it was just a strange way to say it.

[roguevalley]

89. she said she believed in such things as redemption and death

bed conversions. I am sure she would take lucifer's endorsement if she thought it would help. However, this fossil dissed her daughter if nothing else and for her to accept and not denounce it is unforgivable.

[psychopomp]

63. Well, she is looking at death in a way...the death of her political aspirations

Link to interview here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDEskQ9lyGw

The Scaife portion begins a few minutes into the video.

[Emit]

67. Thanks so much for the link

Gonna go check it out :hi:

[Blue Diadem]

72. Thank you for the link. n/t

[polpilot]

50. Weird religous beliefs. You don't wanna know. Sorta like 'last minute airline specials'

[HowHasItComeToThis]

19. SEEMED WEIRD AND ERIE TO ME

:wtf:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

26. Your posting in all caps, all the time, seems eerie to me.

[totodeinhere]

55. I'm an O supporter, but aren't there more important issues than how Clinton laughs to talk about?

[Emit]

88. When she laughs like that in response to questions that I expect a coherent answer to, no.

She's laughed off the question about Bill and Colombia as well as other important issues.

[woolldog]

4. Yes, she's done some odd things this campaign

[roguevalley]

90. those boys crack me up. what an unfortunate pose for them. LOL!

[IsItJustMe]

6. That was strange. She will suck up to anybody, if it helps her win. Sickening.

[HooptieWagon]

7. Just like *

[lutefisk]

27. That's not fair

Her shoulders don't shrug up and down when she laughs. Junior is in a class of his own when it comes to odd and inappropriate behavior.

[HooptieWagon]

47. Well, she hasn't groped any foreign leaders...

as far as I know...

[Egalia]

11. She laughs like a woman

and guess what? all the women in my house were also laughing. KO was absurdly funny.

You sound just like Chris Matthews. Oooh, she cackles!

[gabby garcia]

29. laughs like a woman?

WTF is that sposed to mean?

she laughs insanely because she has no previously written response.

[Skwmom]

36. As a woman I find that very offensive.

Her behavior, in a man or woman, is odd and unsettling (to say the least).

[bigbrother05]

66. It wasn't so much how she laughed, but the timing/situation

When KO started to pose the question about Scaife, she started to laugh even before he got half way through. My first reaction was that she was going to deflect and sure enough she came out with the "death bed conversion" comment. Sometimes she is really just laughing, but in this instance and others when she is pressed and uncomfortable it is an obvious "tell". You know she is going to dance around the issue and spout a non sequitur. I've noticed it happen most times when the line of questioning gets pointed and she is going to try and change the subject. If she's on solid ground, she comes at you straight on, there are clear differences if you keep an eye out. Guess she's not as vetted as she wants us to believe.

[roguevalley]

91. the laugh is a stalling tactic.

[ScarletSniper]

77. I don't laugh like that...wtf?

[guruoo]

87. ROTFL!

"You sound just like Chris Matthews. Oooh, she cackles!"

[anonymous171]

14. Isn't laughter way to relieve stress and anxiety?

[Skwmom]

37. It's just seems weird and the angels on the head of a pin was bizarre and made no sense.

It was like she was babbling. Before she attacks Obama as being unable to handle tough situations, I think she needs to do her own self assessment.

So if she's in tough negotiations is she going to start laugh and making strange statements? I thought we were trying to repair our image?

On edit: You're right that laughter is a way to relieve stress but I thought she could handle stress - isn't that what she has been telling us for months.

[cliffordu]

15. She's done.

In spite of all the posturing and that NEOCON ad agency she has as a mouthpiece, it's over...


She could be the LEAST presidential candidate I have ever seen

(giggle)

[rodeodance]

20. How many times have you walked on her grave?

[cliffordu]

33. The grave of her campaign???

Endlessly, ever since she lost my vote.

It was hers to lose.

I used to love both of them. I wanted HER to be the next President of the United States of America.


Not now. Not ever.

She hired overpriced idiots and scumbags to RUN HER POLITICAL LIFE for the duration of this thing.

A complete disconnect to what I thought she stood for.

Apparently I've been right about this. Now she threatens to bomb Iran.....To get the NEOCON vote during the General????

WTF????

Rodeodance, you and I see very little the same way in this contest, but you MUST see this Iran shit for what it is, don't you??

:patriot:

[TheDonkey]

16. It should be used in an ad against her. It is ridiculous. She cannot be serious or handle the heat

like she claims without cackling nervously to try and deflect attention. Very bushesque like when he'd make some stupid remark like "got wood, heheheheeh"

[eridani]

41. Look, pal--the OP is capable of discussing the issue without sexist terminology

Why not follow her/his example?

[rodeodance]

17. She was laughing into the face of KO. yes she was. the media are quite

to protect him. get it.

And you folks cry about the debate and non relevant questions!!

Add KO to that group!!

[Buzz Clik]

23. You should have watched the interview, sweetie. Your ignorance is showing.

[rodeodance]

51. Your ignorance is showing to make the ASSumption I did not watch it.

......You should have watched the interview, sweetie. Your ignorance is showing.
Posted by Buzz Clik

[Buzz Clik]

52. My assumption was that if you watched the show you would not have made incredibly stupid comments.

I stand corrected.

[roguevalley]

92. sad

[Andy823]

18. Yes, amazing

To say the least! This is a man who tried to convince people she "murdered" someone. Who made it his job to try and tear down her and her husband the whole time they were in the Whitehouse. To laugh like that when asked the question was really "bizarre"! That laugh is something else!:wow:

[pompano]

32. If nothing else, she...

is good at talking things to death. She knows that time on these shows are limited. If she is fortunate enough to get a softball question she in esence fillibusters the opportunity to waste time so less time left for the hard questions. That cackle is a defense mech. Her cackling deflects the seriousness of a question. The ol' "your making a mountain out of a mole hill" reinforcement. It's insulting, really. The cackling means someone hit a nerve she is just too smart to let you know it.

She is savvy, if nothing else. Transparent but savvy.

Thats my opinion.

[eridani]

43. Don't you think "inappropriate laughter" is a more gender-neutral term than "cackling"? n/t

[pompano]

57. Perhaps...

but no, that wasn't the context I was using the word in.

Sorry if I offended anyone?

Let me try it this way.

"Obnoxious, overbearing, gender neutral giggling used by both male and female alike as a conversational tactic used to insult, buy time or deflect the seriousness of a question that more times than not insults the interviewer and/or a third party listener."

Feel better? I'll choose my words a little more sensitivity next time, and please accept my apology.

I find the words "inappropriate laughter" just a little out of context as well. If a response of laughter comes from a person that was all but accused by another of serious crimes, like Scaife, thats inappropriate. I would hope she wasn't laughing about it? But, I do consider the source.
Sorry.

[eridani]

59. Except in 20th-21st century America, it's used in reference to women only n/t

[pompano]

68. I said...

I was sorry?

A "narrow" definition of the word that shalt not be spoken mentions a hen. No reference to a woman that I saw. You took a little liberty with the word yourself, huh?

But, whatever the case, Hillary loosing and me being lashed out at and somehow responsible for the noise a chicken makes after laying an egg sounds just a tad ridiculous, don't ya think. With the exception of one vote I am responsible for neither.

Tire me no further with such foolishness, please. I have already apologized.

[eridani]

69. Ok, apology accepted

Back to the issue. Clinton laughs inappropriately when confronted with any question she doesn't really want to answer. Not a quality I want in a president.

[roguevalley]

93. this is amusing. fighting over a word that doesn't matter a whit and

not important things makes me laugh. Or cackle. I don't care. what she said is what is important. but if you wanna drift off into bs to direct the topic off topic, fine.

[Buzz Clik]

21. I got up from the television to see if anyone here saw the same thing. Creepy!

When Keith asked her about the endorsement, she saide, "No one was more surprised than I was." cackle cackle cackle.

Jeebus Cripes!

Nobody was surprised that he endorsed her; everyone was surprised that she sought his endorsement.

Get a net!

[rug]

22. They're too busy laughing inappropriately at the strange comments in here.

[Buzz Clik]

24. Wow, that is creepy. Hillary was reading future comments on DU while being interviewed on TV.

Awesome!

[MonkeyFunk]

25. She was probably laughing

that KO had the nerve to challenge her for meeting with someone who has routinely smeared her.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

82. Exactly! A lot of fuckin' nerve.

[futureliveshere]

28. KO did pick it up and asked with that eyebrow shake of his "Why did she laugh?"

[nomaco-10]

30. I think she's been talking, acting and looking very......

deranged for several weeks now.
I'm sorry if that offends some, but that is exactly my take on her, especially since SC.

[marshall]

31. She's laughing at the idea of being made to tell the truth

In the previous question when she was asked about all the Colombia money Bill has been raking in, she laughed and dodged the question--as if to say why should anyone expect the truth out her about difficult personal questions--you might as well ask how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
Nothing she does now would surprise me--whether it's laughing maniacally at probing questions all the way to being dragged out of the convention kicking and screaming like Blanche DuBois at the end of Streetcar Named Desire.

[rainbow4321]

34. She did the same cackle when asked by LKL..

if she would be dropping out if she "only" wins by a 5 point margin. Long cackle. Then went onto say she was in the race no matter what the #'s are tomorrow.
She's fucked, she knows it...her internal numbers must reflect what numbers LKL suggested.

[Skwmom]

39. It's not about a funny laugh (cackle). It's about laughing at inappropriate times

and for longer than what would be expected (and saying such bizarre statements such as the angels on the head of a pin).

[eridani]

44. STOP WITH THE "CACKLE" SHIT!! N/T

[SoCalDem]

53. and the speeches and the hope, and the good ideas and the 35K supporters

:rofl:

oh,,and btw,, SHAME ON YOU!!!..

[eridani]

60. Clinton bullshit does not require a sexist response n/t

[SoCalDem]

61. Wow.. I did not know we had a GDP-Boss to tell us all what's "necessary"..

How many demerits do I get?

Do I have to go to bed without supper?

Lose my allowance?

No tv?

[eridani]

65. So why more gratuitous shit?

Isn't the campaigning superficial enough already?

[EnviroBat]

78. I'm cackling as I'm putting you on my ignore list...

CACKLE! CACKLE! CACKLE! Oh, here's another one CAW! CAW! CAW! Jesus, give it a fucking rest already.

[roguevalley]

94. God. Forget the word and get to the subject. Jeez, you are so touchy.

Its probably a good thing you are probably young and missed all the really bad shit that used to be said. You would have nothing to say about fucking cackle.

[Spider Jerusalem]

35. ...

[eridani]

38. The OP is a good example for anyone wishing to discuss this topic

"Inappropriate laughter" sure beats the bejeezus out of "cackling," no? See--it really IS possible to discuss issues without sexist terminology.

[SoCalDem]

54. cackle is sexist??? chickens cackle and they come in both sexes, don't they?

:eyes:

[eridani]

58. Cackle re people is used about women only

Quit being disengenuous.

[SoxFan]

74. How about "bray"?

Can we say that?

Caterwaul?
Ululate?
Hoot?
Holler?

Please tell us which vocalizations are sexist so we do not repeat the error...

[EnviroBat]

79. CAW! CAW! CAW! CAW!

[eridani]

83. The OP had it right n/t

[chitty]

76. Where in the world

do you people get this shit?

The way she laughs? I call it a cackle.

I don't give a crap if it's a man or a woman, it's still a friggin' cackle.

Lighten' up, Francis.

[EnviroBat]

80. I ate at a Hooters last night...

cackle*

[Kurovski]

62. I think saying "roaring like a tasered hyena" would be good too.

But that doesn't mean they don't cackle.

Senator Hillary R Hyena.

[EnviroBat]

81. That's good!

:rofl:

[roguevalley]

96. the last five posts are DUzy worth. I will laugh all day. Or cackle.

or caw. but not hoot, nor holler. I'm a girl, thank you very much. :-D

[roguevalley]

95. oh god. I agree. Caw, caw. for godsake, no more side trips into

'sexism'. You are not the hall monitor.

[ecstatic]

40. The unsettling feeling is due to her treating us all like a bunch of fools

If you're like me, you can't stand when someone insults your intelligence.

Why couldn't she truly level with us about the Scaiffe thing... She could have said, "Look, Scaiffe really hurt my family a long time ago. I met with him because that's what I have to do as a candidate. It's clear his endorsement is due to him underestimating me--which is a huge mistake on his part because I have a way of defeating republicans...yada yada..."

Instead she does the cackle and rattles off some bullshit about a deathbed conversion...

[BlueIdaho]

46. Mad as a hatter she sounds...

That laugh is freaky deakey dropped too much acid at Burning Man cwazy baby.

[Skwmom]

48. No. When I hear someone tell outrageous lies I become outraged. Watching this

made me feel uneasy and unsettled because it was really bizarre. I'm sure a montage of Clinton's "moments" would give many a voter pause and make them wonder if she could handle the pressure.

[Shakespeare]

42. Just watched it on DVR for the first time.

BIZARRE.

[Beaverhausen]

45. Media silent?

:rofl:

There are 47 million americans without healthcare. Wouldn't you rather the media focused on that?

[Skwmom]

49. Clinton is the one who brought up the issue of being tough enough to

handle all of the serious issues faces this country. Her behavior really calls into question her own ability to satisfy the requirement that she has tauted as being necessary for the next President.

About that healthcare. If this is how one acts under pressure, good luck on getting any healthcare initiative passed.

[Hoof Hearted]

56. Because the premise you begin with is goofy, that's why.

[Frank Booth]

64. She is acting in a bizarre manner, and it really makes one wonder

how she'd handle the pressures of being President.

Dubya handled it without cracking because he doesn't give a shit and he's got huge unjustified self-confidence.

I can't say the same about Hillary. Caring's fine, but she goes all the way to being brutal. She'd obsess non-stop. Can you imagine if Hugo Chavez humiliated her in front of the UN like he did to Dubya? She'd never let that go.

Thank God it looks like Obama will win. The alternative is two unhinged personalities who apparently are both willing to blow the mid-East to smithereens.

[McCamy Taylor]

70. Huh? Google Media Matters and Hillary and Cackle. There are pages of it.

This is old news to the press, They did Hillary's laugh for weeks and weeks already, And her cleavage. And her mental health. Where were you guys?

[Skwmom]

73. It's not about a cackle. It's about inappropriate laughter and

bizarre comments. Big difference.

[TexasObserver]

71. Don't it make her brown eyes blue?!

Don't it make her brown eyes,
don't it make her brown eyes,
don't it make her brown eyes blue?!

(add inappropriate, hysterical cackle)

[annie1]

75. they've covered her laugh tons of times. it's no longer news. simmer.

[chitty]

84. This certainly

was not covered by the media nearly enough.

Worse than bitter.

Worse than Wright.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGeQ6dxGMFA&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/11/7839/12059/654/493626

That was no laughing matter.

It was very telling of what we are going to get from a Hillary administration.

[Skwmom]

85. Again. They have COVERED her type of laugh but they HAVE NOT talked

about how she laughs at inappropriate times and makes bizarre statements when under pressure. I think this in an important fact to consider when picking a President who will face tough times (a subject Clinton HERSELF brought up).

Of course the Republicans would bring it up in the general election so why shouldn't this be vetted now (according to Clinton logic).

[chitty]

97. Bizarre statements

to be sure.

Is this the way she is going to act if another head of state asks her a question?

That's almost Bushlike embarassing.