Does Hillary propose killing every man, woman and child in Iran?

[Alhena]

in her "completely obliterate" scenario? Even a Republican like Teddy Roosevelt had the good sense to SPEAK SOFTLY and carry a big stick. No major world leader today EVER makes statements like she did- not even George W. Bush. She's so insecure and anxious to prove her toughness that she votes to start ridiculous wars and follows that up with bellicose statements. Or maybe she just truly likes using the military, just like she enjoys using her dirty trick squads in her campaign.

Either way, it's sad that the DEMOCRATIC party is having such a hard time deciding between a true Democrat and this wannabe Republican, at least on matters of foreign policy.

[Muttocracy]

1. Kyl-Lieberman vote + her comment in debate + this

If people are paying attention, I don't know how they can vote for her.

If people want a war hawk, they'll vote McCain over her anyway.

[JoFerret]

2. YES. You have a problem with that?

It is the cornerstone of her foreign policy. Plus every dog, donkey, cockroach and foreign emissary.
'tis the only way to conduct foreign policy. AMERICAN policy.

Obama would bomb them with unity and love. How does that help anyone?

[Leopolds Ghost]

47. What we need are some GAWD-Bombs to rain down on the unbelievers, can you say hallelujah?

Love-bombs are less effective at killing people,

though they are an excellent force multiplier in mixed-gender units.

[chascarrillo]

54. Holy fucking shit.

[Catherina]

66. Disgusting. I can't wait for the ignore button to come back. n/t

:puke:

[silverweb]

3. Shocking and unbelievable, isn't it?

:(

[Freedomofspeech]

4. How Christian...

[cliffordu]

5. I think that is an affirmative.

On a positive note, she'll irradiate most of the oil bearing lands over there, so her half-assed alternative fuel "plan" might have a chance....

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. Annie goes to Iran?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

40. well you can kill more people with a nuke than her favored carpet bombs

[Leopolds Ghost]

48. More like -- Arnie goes to Iran -- as Conan -- with Hilleria, Queen of Thieves

Destined to wear the jeweled crown of Persia upon a troubled brow.

Clintons, in our beautiful country!
I've chafed for years at these demi-gods.

Clintonites follow her like a slave,
Seeking the truth of their soul.
As if OBAMA could not give it to them!

You alone have stood up to her minions.
And what ARE you? Bloggers!

I salute you.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

53. there's no difference between HRC and GWB

[redstate_democrat]

7. Yes she is batshit crazy

and she didn't even SOUND or APPEAR as if it bothered her that she had just stated she would wipe an entire country filled with women and children OFF THE MAP. She makes me sick.

Can you see the Repugs painting her as some sort of novice, trigger happy, unstable, menopausal woman who CAN'T be trusted, and shouldn't be trusted with that red phone? I sure can. They are laughing their asses off and they have nothing to laugh about with their silly, hawkish ways. Hillary is just a continuation of this disastorous foreign policy we have. I can't help but wonder whether a deal was made between the Clintons and Bushes. McCain is just a sacrificial lamb. But first, she needs to get past Obama, and they have been trying their hardest to do it.

[saigon68]

71. Yikes

[Taxmyth]

8. If Iran attacks Israel President Obama will NOT retaliate

make sure you get that message out to America, that is something they definitely need to hear before Election Day.

[tabasco]

10. Really? Do you have some evidence of that

or are you just a liar?

[Catherina]

14. Considering there's no evidence, I think the answer is clear n/t

[Taxmyth]

32. It must be so, I read so many people saying it here

All Senator Obama supporters. Senator Clinton was specific in what her policy would be should Iran attack Israel and after reading the comments and posts of so many, I can come to no other conclusion.

[Catherina]

11. Our foreign policy revolves around Israel?

I'm not sure that's a message you want to get out to America right now.

You're full of shit as it is. There's a reason Obama's getting supported by Jewish Liberals who don't want to see Israel involved in a nuclear war that will kill them too.

[JBoy]

13. Bullshit. Show me a source for that.

[Taxmyth]

28. The sources are all over these pages

Take some time and read the posts attacking Senator Clinton for being specific in her policies.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

41. its up to congress to declare war, not the President

although Hillary did vote to let Bush wage war.

[Redbear]

9. The comment was what would be the US response

if Iran launched a nuclear warhead at Israel?

I don't agree with Sen Clinton's position, but I think most politicians of both parties would agree with her.

[Alhena]

17. She could have said she'd make a "proportional response" or some other

language that politicians use instead of this gung-ho Gen. Lemay type of statement.

[MonkeyFunk]

21. and what's proportionate to a

nuclear attack?

[QC]

30. A stern talking-to? n/t

[barack the house]

12. I know if only more folks had been paying close attention, Obama would be nominee already...

Anyway, guess we just gotta be patient.

[MonkeyFunk]

15. Yes

she's proposing to strangle them one-by-one, on live TV.

You guys are getting more nuts with each passing hour.

[Beaverhausen]

16. Way to misrepresent what she said

So, if Iran somehow in the next few years did end up with nukes and nuked Israel, what would Obama do?

[saltpoint]

18. Whatever she meant, her words were reckless and ill-considered, not

unlike the tone-deaf blather she's become increasingly famous for.

Her words were very likely chosen to enhance her tough-gal shoot-em-up image. Yo, pseudo-feminists. Where are y'all on this one?

Hillary Clinton should apologize.

[rodeodance]

19. There is no difference between a RW smear and the OP. Rove would be proud of this OP!!

[Danger Mouse]

22. Seems fair to me. What else does 'obliterate' mean?

[JBoy]

24. It's not a smear. It's a discussion of Hillary's policy.

First fucking policy discussion I've seen in this forum for weeks.

[Hoof Hearted]

37. How do we know Rove didn't write the OP, Rodeo? Seems to fit. n/t

[rodeodance]

20. ********RW FLAME-BAIT**************

[chascarrillo]

38. What does "completely obliterate" mean to you?

[madrchsod]

23. seems that way when she said "completely obliterate"

completely--These verbs mean to bring or come to a natural or proper stopping point.

obliterate--To do away with completely so as to leave no trace

i think it means "to turn the country into glass"

[ecstatic]

25. How can a woman say that? She is a heartless warmonger

HRC has shown with her words and actions that she is a heartless ugly WARMONGER who doesn't view people in the Middle East as human beings. Her heartless rhetoric is RACIST, because she would never talk about OBLITERATING a European country.

I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANOTHER GENOCIDE. She and McSame are the same. She has lost my vote forever with her warhawkish bullshit.

[davidpdx]

26. Her new nickname

Nuclear Hillary

[madrchsod]

29. mine is Badb

[Liquorice]

27. Obama said he might unilaterally attack Pakistan, and then

the Pakistanis burned him in effigy. Speak softly, indeed!

"Top Pakistani officials said Obama's comment was irresponsible and had probably been made for political reasons related to his race for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.

"It's a very irresponsible statement, that's all I can say," Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri said. "As the election campaign in America is heating up, we would not like American candidates to fight their elections and contest elections at our expense."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/03/asia/obama.php

[Beaverhausen]

33. ruh-ro

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

31. she's batshit crazy

[depakid]

34. Do the Iranian Mullahs understand nuance?

Do their leaders realize the consequences of letting the nuclear genie out of the bottle?

Hard to know, given their often over the top rhetoric and the amount of ignorance and misunderstanding on our part of present day Iran.

Frankly, I prefer statements like:

"An (Iranian) attack on Israel is an attack on our strongest ally in the region, one whose security we consider paramount.

"That would be an act of aggression that I would consider unacceptable and the United States would take appropriate action."

My guess is that most cognoscenti recognize that it's just another way of saying the same thing (though maybe not the most effective way to direct comments toward the intended audience).

That one's very arguable.

Yet the policies on the Democratic side, in the event of the hypothetical situation are largely the same. Each and both do differ from what you'd expect (and have seen) from the Republicans over the past 25 years.

People who don't think so have some homework to do.

[eridani]

49. Their chief mullah of the moment has declared nuclear weapons "unislamic"

Of course, that doesn't mean that the actual leadership would necessarily obey him

http://www.encarta.es/encyclopedia_761584225/Khamenei_Seyed_Ali.html

In 2004 Khamenei delivered a fatwa (religious edict) regarding the use of nuclear weapons, saying that they were “un-Islamic.” In a subsequent sermon, Khamenei elaborated on this position, declaring that “developing, producing, or stockpiling nuclear weapons is forbidden under Islam.”

[depakid]

51. Something to build on

and my suspicion is that there are some Kosovar Albanians who might agree....

[onehandle]

35. They are largely identical. Both would attack Iran. nt

[redstate_democrat]

36. The important distinction is

Hillary's Nuclear Umbrella plan she set forth for the first time in that debate. She essentially said an attack on the UAE is the same as an attack on the U.S. if made by Iran.

That is lunacy.

[guruoo]

39. She said we could, not that she would

[shellgame26]

42. This is a dangerous woman

Is she honestly saying that she would be willing to drop a nuclear bomb on a country sandwiched between other countries? A country that has not declared war against us? She voted for the IWR just to look tough. I wouldn't put it past her to bomb bomb bomb Iran just so she can keep with her "tough" image. Anything for politics eh Hill?

[understandinglife]

43. Simply - She is NUTS, and therefore, very very dangerous ....

[depakid]

52. I think you need to look at your choice of nom de plumes

either that, or think before you react and post.

[Life Long Dem]

44. Maybe she is looking 4 years from now.

Hard to see this helping her in the primary.

[samsingh]

45. apparently

[Beregond2]

46. She's just trying to

lock-up the Jewish vote with this crapola.

[Frank Booth]

50. No, she merely intends to drink the blood of every man, woman and child.

Whether they live or die isn't that important to her.

[FlaGranny]

55. I wonder what she

thinks will happen to all the downwind countries if ANY middle eastern countries were obliterated. Iraq, Lebanon, Turkey, Italy, Spain, Portugal, et al? ANYONE who sets off a nuclear weapon is crazy. Does anyone realize that Iran has never directly attacked anyone? If Hezbollah builds a nuclear weapon with funds from Iran, will Lebanon, Iran, or both, be obliterated. What would THAT do to Israel and many other countries as far as fallout, etc. Such bellicosity is foolish, even crazy.

[invictus]

56. K & R

[Zachstar]

57. She voted against bans on Cluster Bombs in areas filled with civilians.

You know the same bombs whos minibombs become mines when they don't explode right?

[IsItJustMe]

58. I see no difference between her and McCain on this issue. If either are elected, be prepared for a

war with Iran. War mongerers think alike.

[IsItJustMe]

59. Sad to say, but statement makes her seem more of a war monger that Bush.

[Alhena]

60. Yep- that's the point we've arrived at

[workinclasszero]

61. Hillary is ready to BOMB BOMB IRAN baby!

[Arugula Latte]

62. She's sounding more and more like a bloodthirsty neocon.

Makes me sick. x(

[DevonRex]

63. Yes she does. And she's totally sick. Mad with power. nt

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

64. yes she does

and yes she will

[Rosa Luxemburg]

65. unfortunate term obliterate it will come back to haunt her

she'll tkae us all down with her

[Catherina]

67. Yes. But she's still the "Goddess of Peace"

Go fucking figure.

Rec'd.

[Orsino]

68. Either she didn't realize how terrible that sounds...

...or she has simply adopted the right-wing framing of war as something that happens over there and doesn't kill real people. A certain amount of that detachment has been necessary for her to sleep at night, but I'm afraid that she's too much of an elitist now to understand what she's saying.

[cyndensco]

69. sounds like it to me

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

70. No. But, she'll say she's sorry for the 70 million in "collateral damage".