Obama chickens out of North Carolina debate.

[anamnua]

He obviously does not want a repeat of the last time when his ass was handed to him by Hillary.
Please spare the BS 'it was not him it was the organisers..'. They obviously acted in concert to protect The Chosen One.
I can just hear Hill's stump speech:
If he can't face me in debate how can he face a republican? If he can't stand up to me how can he stand up to Bin Laden, Ahmadinejad, Medvedev etc.? If he is not fit to face me he is not fit to lead America...

[jackson_dem]

1. He is a wuss. He isn't even taking questions from his press detail now

[mac2]

Obama believes in globalism...and Fascism.

That's the Americas Union coming up. Combine government and religion to control every aspect of your life.

[cliffordu]

25. Obama believes in sucking the lifeblood out of kittens.

[barb162]

65. Nah, he just sucks the lifeblood of taxpayers for his salary.

Because he doesn't do a damned thing for it.

[mac2]

99. The whole year? With what car? Biodisel?

[mac2]

93. Bill Press was talking about a Obama/Clinton ticket

or a Clinton/Obama ticket. Dear god don't say it's true!

This primary which has us all bored to tears was just a smoke screen for Bush's Americas (Fascist) Union and "unending war" after all.

We don't even have our Habeas Corpus back...nor our rights...nor our troops home. Nancy Pelosi can't hand Bush enough money for his killing and death in so many countries.

Do you worry about Olbermann running out of material with a change in administration?

"Don't worry, he told NPR. "I don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican. This isn't right -- you're not doing what you said you were going to do. You have not restored habeas corpus fully. We're still in Gitmo. We're still in Iraq. We're not out fast enough. These are still going to be issues. They don't go away with George Bush." Keith Olbermann:

What about impeachment Congress? President Bush's approval numbers are in the tank so you ignore the people? He and Cheney have robbed us and put us in debt. That is just a start to their "misdemeanors and high crimes".

[barb162]

66. Oh, maybe something's going on with Rezko again.

:)

[democracy1st]

87. Listen here you sorry azz it's nothing more to debate

Let me here you explain the Clinton Ultra rightwing connection

[roguevalley]

106. yeah. he's disciminating against people with ears. How dare he

not give reasoned answers to inane questions. how dare he not give that woman anymore air time to tell us how she will nuke children.

Said Clinton on Good Morning America, "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran. In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

[Mezzo]

131. no way. Not talking to the press now? Is there a link? nt

[ElsewheresDaughter]

2. Obviously, Obama decided he couldn't take another hit. Poor baby.

[Qutzupalotl]

64. And the campaign responds.

An Obama campaign spokesman, Bill Burton, replied: “It’s unfortunate that the Clinton campaign decided to play politics with this — especially considering that Senator Obama agreed to a North Carolina debate long before Senator Clinton did, and their campaign took three weeks to consider and ultimately reject that proposal.”

[DJ13]

3. Smart man

Let your candidate PAY for her airtime.

If she has any money, that is.

:rofl:

[GarbagemanLB]

8. Yep! Hillary is desperate for ANY free air time at this point. Let her waste her last dollars on get

ting her message out. :rofl:

[rodeodance]

12. what a little chickie Obama is turning out to be!!

[GarbagemanLB]

13. and he's still kicking Hillary's ass. LOL

[rodeodance]

20. you must get lots of sand in your nose with your head in the sand!!

[GarbagemanLB]

21. ~HILLARY IS LOSING~ YES SHE IS~ NO SHE CAN'T~~

[barb162]

67. Are you hypnotizing yourself?

Chanting?
:)

[Yurovsky]

108. Simple math confuse you?

In terms of pledged delegates...

OBAMA > HRC

In terms of total delegates (pledged + declared Superdelegates)

OBAMA > HRC

In terms of total popular votes in the primaries to date ...

OBAMA > HRC


And there are not enough states remaining for HRC to overtake Senator Obama on 1 or 3. Her only hope is to convince enough superdelegates to ignore the will of the people and give HRC the nomination, which would guarantee a defeat of EPIC proportions for the party in November (Senate & House might be lost as well).

I can see why you HRC supporters are all excited about your chances ... :eyes:

[libbygurl]

43. LOL! Denial is a useful defence mechanism, ya know. nt

[shadowknows69]

91. She's still losing you deluded idiot

Get some help for fucks sake before your queen actually does drop out and you're stuck with nothing but your obsession.

[susankh4]

115. How's that going to work with McCain?

I wonder if John will get the finger and the dust off?

[peoli]

4. What would you like them to talk about?

[rodeodance]

26. any COHERENT sentences would do the next time around!

[ProSense]

29. There will be no next time. Hillary has lost! When the race is over

the loser goes home, not to NC for a debate.

[libbygurl]

40. So you think BO will go home after tomorrow?

[ProSense]

61. Will Hillary be ahead after tomorrow? n/t

[barb162]

68. Unless he rehearses, he can't do a coherent sentence

As he demonstrated in the last debate. I saw a great spoof of him talking about Ayers yesterday. It was a series of about five long uhhhhhhhs between every real word.

[johnnydrama]

77. did you see her on TV tonight

Cackle city. She laughed for like 15 seconds straight on Olbermann. That's a coherent sentence? laughing?

[susankh4]

117. Olbermann is laughable.

I would have laughed too.

[durrrty libby]

98. He needs a telepromter at all times, otherwise he is completely lost

For some reason, the Kool-Aid swilling sheep love that:shrug:

[rucky]

5. Overcompensate much?

[my3boyz]

6. Yeah...last time Hilly wanted a debate (MEET ME IN OHIO) she got her ass kicked! nt

[libbygurl]

42. You must live in a parallel universe. BO never does well in these debates.

Hillary has always performed better than BO, with substantive answers delivered with poise, lucidity and grace, even humour.

None of that copycat 'I agree with Hillary' BS, then rambling on for wasted minutes rehashing what Hillary just said.

[my3boyz]

75. PLEASE...that is why his poll numbers surged after that debate. Mmmhmmm....Hillary's numbers

still did not surge after the last debate even though Obama was attacked relentlessly. The viewers realized that she might have been better with words that night but that she is full of shit!

[susankh4]

119. No. He doesn't.

He's the speech man. Needs a teleprompter.

[rodeodance]

7. poor wittle Obama--the heat is too much for him. What a whimp!!

[Patchuli]

31. You are really strange

and the word is 'wimp' not "whimp." At least Obama supporters can spell...

[barb162]

69. There are plenty of Obama supporters around here who can't spell.

[Patchuli]

129. If someone's going call somone names

in written form, using spell-check adds impact to the comment. You know, like 'Mr. Moran' we see around here sometimes?

[Sadie5]

45. Chicky widdle Obama

Does O waddle round the chicken coop going cluck cluck cluck, or peep peep peep. ROFLMAO

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

70. the taunt comes across as castrating, something Clinton supporters might want to avoid

calling a man a wimp is just an effort to try to denigrate his masculinity,
and if that isn't sexist, then nothing is.

Its also what children do when trying to bully someone.

[JoFerret]

90. The SCUM manifesto

had its amusing parts.

[bluetrain]

97. One of the funniest books I've ever read. /nt

[JoFerret]

110. It was a top rant

.

[ProSense]

9. Hillary has lost. Taunting is a feeble and desperate attempt to deny that it's over. n/t

[rodeodance]

53. keeping your head in the sand is desperate.

[meow mix]

10. very funny

you hillary supporters are real comics. hah hah

[tabatha]

11. Apparently it was not him.

It was the NC dems - worried about more division in the party.

[Kittycat]

16. You can't explain that to HillFans - or the fact that she declined Obama's

previously agreed to date.

[Divernan]

52. Oh they KNOW it will exacerbate the divide in the party - at this point that's their goal

"Ya know" looking ahead to 2012.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

14. screw her, I live in NC and we have tvs and have seen 20+ debates

Her campaign is broke and she needs the free publicity.

[mac2]

18. That's way too much information eh?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

24. Clinton campaign $10 million in debt, she's desperate for free publicity

since the check books are closing.

[TexasLady]

15. ohhhh brother.

ass handing=dreaming.


damn i hate stupid threads like these..hell gotta use my nifty little clicker now.

[libbygurl]

44. So why bother to reply to a stupid thread? But thanks for the kick, anyway.

[Catherina]

17. Cancelled because Hillary will lose PA and drop out before then

Why waste more of America's time on a loser?

[grantcart]

19. link? yeah I thought so Hillary wouldn't meet Obama's date lol

[Name removed]

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[madfloridian]

23. I don't blame him.

It is too divisive to the party. I think the Dem leaders are now stepping in and working to end this travesty.

He is the nominee, she is not. She will destroy him if she can.

[rodeodance]

30. either do I really. he made such a fool of himself last week.

[Name removed]

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[libbygurl]

37. Can't reply with an argument, so just attack the poster. Great tactic! LOL!

[Citizen Kang]

27. Upset

that your candidate won't get any more free press coverage from the corporate right wing whore media?

Or just angry because you know its over on May 6?

Obama is denying her free exposure. She is at least $10 million in debt. She has no other way to campaign if she can't get free tv time or can't buy any more Rovian campaign ads. Her campaign is nothing more than a Kamikaze mission at this point.

Its obvious after 20 debates there is nothing more to talk about. We are reduced to flag-pins and other trival gotcha questions.

Its over May 6.

[Tarheel_Dem]

62. which is why she agreed to sit down with Keith tonight....

I'm convinced that she never would have done his show if she weren't broke. Why didn't she buy another hour on Hallmark? Broke. And the Clintonistas should banish the notion that Hillary's in any position to make demands on the nominee's time. She has lost in every possible measurement when it comes to viability in this campaign.

A candidate with lesser name recognition, would have been forced out after Super Tues. And according to an article posted here earlier today, it was the NC Democratic Party that put the kibosh on the upcoming debate, because they feel it would only serve to further divide the party.

[MadBadger]

28. He accepted CBS's original date of April 19th, Hillary did on the 27th.

Both said the other one would work on their schedules. So Why is it fair to say that Obama chickened out?

[Bonobo]

32. I love it when Hillary supporters' sexist colors show.

What a bunch of hypocrites.

"He is a wuss."
"what a little chickie Obama is turning out to be!!"
"poor wittle Obama--the heat is too much for him. What a whimp!!"
"ha ha---what a whimp he is!"

[GarbagemanLB]

33. You don't understand! They support a woman candidate! They CAN'T be sexist!

[Skittles]

34. I think they just just say NO to these silly debates

unless there are assurances that the questions asked are not TABLOID TRASH

[quiet.american]

36. Yawn. nt

[Median Democrat]

38. You Seriously Want A 22nd Debate?

Yawn! 1 hour of Ayers/Bittergate/Bosnia flights?

I would care more if we had a debate that was on something a bit more relevant like perhaps the war, the economy, the mortgage mess, and health care. Or, what about Rezko or Marc Rich is you want to go negative.

I was actually looking forward to that debate, but that was just a waste of time.

[libbygurl]

39. Notice he also turned down invites to Olbermann and Larry King shows tonight -

- allegedly due to 'scheduling conflicts'.

Scheduling, schmeduling conflicts, my ass. Couldn't even appear on BO sycophant's KO's show? Skeered of Hillary?

[jackson_dem]

48. He can't stand up to Charlie Gibson. How can he beat the rethugs and deal with foreign leaders?

[Historic NY]

41. JUST SAY NO...........what more do you want the Repukes to use..

if you can't decide to vote for the Democrat then your vote is not needed. How much more BS shall we have to listen to. Rush and his "Operation Chaos" has lots of operatives posting here so you must be one if your in favor of the continuing blood letting.

[turkishroyal]

46. That's to bad

I hope they do debate again, I like seeing them together and interacting.

[NRaleighLiberal]

47. You really need a 22nd debate??? Oh, come on now... NT

[JeffR]

49. Because 21 debates was just not quite enough for you.

Maybe you should ask the candidates questions via Ouija Board or Magic Eight Ball.

[DesEtoiles]

50. welcome...to my ignore list! and buh BYE!

[PetraPooh]

51. Thank goodness, this last one proves that there is nothing more

of substance for the media to ask. Enough is enough. How many to date? 18? 21? Either way, too many.

[susankh4]

120. There is plenty.....

and we'll get to hear it in September.

[guruoo]

54. It's clear that he's switched to a modified 'rope a dope' strategy

[susankh4]

121. Bwahahahaaaa.....

that's it! The modified rope-a-dope plan!!

Thanks.

[Hoof Hearted]

55. It's fitting in with his whine about eating my waffle and not talking to the media stra-tee-ger-y

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/21/obama-avoids-media-in-final-days-of-pa/


April 21, 2008
Obama avoids media in final days of PA
Posted: 04:44 PM ET

BLUE BELL, Pennsylvania (CNN) – It's now been ten days since Democrat Barack Obama has made himself available for questions from his traveling press corps, and it appears as though that number could rise even higher.

Aides have said it's unlikely he’ll hold an availability with reporters before Tuesday's Pennsylvania primary, but that they "could always add one." Given their track record over the past few days, however, that doesn't sound promising.

Since the start of the weekend, the possibility of a press conference has been dangled in front of reporters twice—only to be snatched away at the last possible moment.

On Saturday, reporters were teased for the majority of the day with a possible evening avail, only to be told at the eleventh hour that it would not be happening. To make it up, staffers said they were aiming to put him in front of cameras on Sunday but that, too, did not happen.





Reporters hate that shit.

[rodeodance]

76. obama is acting Cheney-like.

[EFerrari]

56. Hillary couldn't hand anyone anything with both hands and a bucket brigade.

[rodeodance]

79. She did great in the debate last week while BHO was unprepared for

the questions. He was arrogant to think that the msm would put those questions off the table. Then he and his camp cried for the next several days. What a bunch of wimps!!

[shadowknows69]

92. You clearly have no conception of what a good debate should be

So why don't you stop showing your stupidity and go learn something instead of feeding your own ignorance.

[CreekDog]

57. nice right wing talking points (your words in italics)

:spank:

not helpful to the Democratic Party, but Ralph Nader is on the other line and thanks you.

[johnnydrama]

58. Obama should make the following proposal

Get your debts under 1 million before the debate, and I will debate you.

In other words, deadbeats don't get free airtime.

[barb162]

72. Hillary should make a proposal to BHO: answer a question straight for a change.

And without arrogance. He can't do it. Did you see him stuttering all over the place in the last debate when he was asked questions he didn't like.

[zulchzulu]

59. Obama will debate the other Republican, John McCain later in the fall

He's done with the Cackling Liar. She had 21 chances to debate and she lost.

Why waste time on a windbag who lost. She's broke and wants more free press. Too fucking bad....

:rofl:

[powergirl]

60. Clinton refused to debate in NC on 4/19

She wanted to honor Passover. But she still campaigned on that day. And Obama did not chicken out. It was cancelled by the NC Democratic party.

[Gore1FL]

63. I am sure if Hillary debates Gravel first

and thereby shows she truly shares his arguments for inclusion in such a thing, the Obama would follow up with a debate against her.

Maybe the one who wins the debate can debate Obama.

Otherwise, why should he debate anyone when he has already seized the nomination by all realistic measure?

[mmonk]

71. So if he is chicken for not debating on the date proposed in our state that Hillary agreed to,

was Hillary chicken for turning down the 19th for debate in North Carolina which Obama agreed to? Silly blatant hypocrisy. Having fun?

[barb162]

73. K & R

[PseudoIntellect]

74. Really? I wanted to see more debates >__

and not garbage ones where they spend almost an hour on talking about nothing.

[Political Heretic]

78. Good. You can name call all you want, but there's no reason for him to agree to any debates

He shouldn't have done Pennsylvania either. We've had nearly THIRTY. There's nothing left to say but GOTCHA politics.

[2rth2pwr]

80. Obama's Chickens!....Are Coming Home!..........To Roost.

[shayes51]

84. Amen, Sister!

[susankh4]

124. Hahahaaaaaa.....

I'm not sure which of you guys is funnier today!!

Modified rope-a-dope

or

Obama's chickens coming home???

Break out the wine, it's time for our victory party!!

[mattclearing]

81. Couric is even more biased than Stephanopoulos.

It goes without saying that he shouldn't debate for people who want to embarrass him at the expense of the American people.

[bowens43]

82. there have been over 20 debates .

Hoow many do you need?Stilll not decided yet? Hmmmm newbie?

[ima_sinnic]

83. she declined a NC debate a long time ago. she's pathetic and desperate.

She's too broke to buy any more airtime, so NOW she wants another "debate." As IF that will somehow magically change the course she herself set out a long time ago--a race to the bottom.

Why should Obama waste his time with her? She's already shown in the last debate that she just wants to engage in gutter politics and is not interested in the issues. He has bigger fish to fry--his REAL opponent. Another debate with her would be like going on to play the 4th and 5th games after you've agreed that 3 out of 5 is the winner. Why bother?

I used to feel sort of sorry for her, because she was embarrassing herself so much. But now it makes me feel gleeful to see her slow-motion train wreck, which has almost run its course. Karma, baby, karma!

[michaz]

85. I have no desire to see any more debates, period! We have seen all

we need to see. If a person can't make up their mind after the prior debates than they have to be thick. Really, enough is enough. The debates are turning into a circus and I for one, wouldn't watch another one.

[MrSlayer]

86. Well, you can call it what you want.

But Hillary is short on cash and is in position to be eliminated. There is no reason to afford her the courtesy of free airtime considering her campaign's disposition toward Obama. Why give her a means to continue? If it's to be a war of attrition then so be it. Obama has almost limitless cash. Bitch move or not, it's the smart thing to do.

[Avalux]

88. Another useless debate in NC is pointless. I't s over after today.

Go ahead and keep replaying your idiotic imaginary stump speech in your head. :thumbsdown:

[workinclasszero]

89. Hillary's broke and wants free publicity

HA HA!

[npincus]

94. BINGO! Not much grassroots support there.

:rofl:

[BryMan]

95. Everytime I read posts like this, and responses like schoolyard bullies

It sends me into a cold sweat. Why you might ask, because it causes me to think McSame will be the next president.

All of you on both side acting like you've reverted to childhood, and feel the need to toss taunts back and forth are only working to sink the whole friggen ship. If McSame becomes president remember these moments, if McSame becomes president remember the division and the hate you felt for another Democrat, and know you had a hand in it if you allowed that to make you stay home on election day. For you effectively voted for McSame yourself by doing so.

And this goes for both sides, you better get over yourselves or we get something possibly worse than Bush, or something no better.

[bigwillq]

96. There's no need for another debate.

Obama made a smart move.

[mac2]

102. So says you.

The last ABC debate was not.

How about the issues such as the war, the debt, impeachment, the Americas Union ploy, unemployment, food shortages, better govenment, new tax structure, health care for all, removal of NAFTA since it is killing our economy and freedoms (replaces our laws and borders), etc.?

They are talking about a new administration and election when they did nothing about the last one in 2006. Why not?

[dionysus]

100. shillbot manual page 234, clause D: when losing, manufacture outright lies...

:rofl:

[yardwork]

101. Obama has North Carolina won. Why should he debate?

It's good strategy. A debate is a risk. Why take a risk when you're crushing the competition. Good politics on Obama's part.

[mac2]

103. Maybe Obama should just stay home and declare himself

king. That's what Bush did.

[Seabiscuit]

104. Outside of memorizing everything for speeches, when he talks off the cuff

in answering the direct hit questions from the press he can't do it. He always flubs it up somehow and then he has to retract or tell us that's not what he said. He'll fall apart in the GE against the Republican machine or serious debates unless he continues to hone his skills now rather than run from them.

[Independent-Voter]

105. Obama agreed to an earlier debate to be held on the 19th, but HRC backed out.

It also took her 3 weeks say she wasn't going to be there. Why was Veruca such a chickenshit earlier?

[mindspell]

107. lets give it a rest shall we?

when will we realize that this intense bashing of the candidates is only bashing the democratic party. one of them will be winning, the more we support the fighting, the weaker either candidate will be by the time s/he faces up to mccain. its a grand thing (unless you are the tv station that was supposed to host the debate or of the mccain camp) that the north carolina debate has been canceled. hopefully democrats can recognize they are being divided BEFORE they get conquered by the republicans!

[Beacool]

109. Poor Obama those RW guys from ABC were sooo tough on him!!!!

How about all the debates where Hillary got pummeled by the moderators and everyone else who was on stage with her???

This guy always acts like no one has a right to question him on anything. Well, like it or not, people DO want to know about things like the flag pin issue, Rev. Wright, Rezko, "bittergate" and now Ayres. If any of you went around PA, you would have heard enough people bringing up any of these subjects, including people wondering whether he is a Muslim. To the average folk who don't pay that much attention to politics, these things resonate more than policy issues.

[FredScuttle]

111. Must suck to know that your campaign has only hours to live...

I pity you

[Beacool]

130. Pity??????

She won PA by 10%!!!!!!!!!

Save your pity for your guy.............

:rofl:

[FredScuttle]

132. Wow, a whole net gain of......................10 delegates

Katy, bar the door. :eyes:

She's done, dude. Accept that and move on....

[LSK]

112. I guess the previous 5000000000 debates dont count

[oasis]

113. Deer caught in the headlights II? No way. (eom)

[BigDDem]

114. Barry is a wuss and a coward

[Texas Hill Country]

116. cause he sux at debates... thats why

[madrchsod]

118. an exclusive photo of obama officially "chickening out"

[mystieus]

122. Wasn't she the first to decline a debate in NC?

[FlyingSquirrel]

123. 20 recs, 20 "Ignored"... coincidence?

:rofl:

[truebrit71]

125. Yeah right...Why should Obama give that pant-suited gasbag free air time?

...Want get on the air Billary?

Pay for it...

Oh, wait!! You're almost ten large in the hole....

Ooopsy!!!

[FlyingSquirrel]

126. I bet this'll be locked soon as an all-out flame fest, but before that happens---

It's also been a GREAT help to me in adding to my ignore list! Y'all might wanna do the same

[spanone]

127. hillary & the abc crew...enough fucking debates. there's nothing new

[Road Scholar]

128. You mean another fucking hillary/abc ambush. I agree with Obama

[thewiseguy]

133. Standing up to Hillary is like standing up to Bin Laden?

If he can't stand up to me how can he stand up to Bin Laden, Ahmadinejad, Medvedev etc.? If he is not fit to face me he is not fit to lead America...

I am not a Hillary supporter but I find that stump speech offensive to her.