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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:19 AM
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Does anyone who doesn't reach a majority of delegates without SD's deserve the nomination?
We seriously need to consider this... are BOTH candidates too weak to win the GE?

If so, what should we do about it as a party?

-Unity Ticket?
-Nominate a Third person?


Just acknowledging the 500lb gorilla in the room...
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:23 AM
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1. You have it backwards.
Both candidates are that good.

Either candidate would whoop McBush in the GE.

I think McBush is the far weaker candidate. I'm glad I'm not a repiggy having to back a candidate that the party crapped on in 2004.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:19 AM
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8. Yep. Two of the strongest candidates offered up in decades.
In terms of fundraising, they're unmatched.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:23 AM
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2. Yes
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 07:24 AM by Gore1FL
because that is how the system is set up. 19-20% of the delegates are Supers. To say that a candidate must win more than 50% of the total delegates but nearly 1/5 don't count means that only a candidate who wins over 62% of the pledged delegates deserves a win. That bar is unreasonably high, and since the inception of Super delegates, has been met twice.

On Edit--not including Clinton's un-oopsed second term nomination.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:26 AM
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3. Does anyone who hasn't received a single vote in the primaries
deserve the nomination? Why? And no, either candidate would stand an excellent chance at beating McCain.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:31 AM
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4. they've probably both got more votes than most previous nominees
turnout has been huge, at least doubling previous records. I don't know the numbers of votes compared to previous dem nominees, I'd be interested to see that, but I would guess they would both beat previous ones.
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SparkyMac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:37 AM
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5. No ! All they've proven is they can't win n/t
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:01 AM
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7. Enjoy your stay. n/t
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:39 AM
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6. you don't get to enter a race by jumping in at the finish line...
we will have a winner
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:21 AM
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9. It is strange to me why someone would set up a system..
where no one could get a majority of delegates without the involvement of the super delegates. A simple majority of the pledged delegates, even one vote, should determine the winner.
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