Bill Clinton In Bizarro World: Obama Camp Memos Reveal Plan To Play The Race Card On Me

[KittyWampus]

Bill Clinton: Obama Camp Memos Reveal Plan To Play The Race Card On Me
By Eric Kleefeld - April 22, 2008, 8:34AM
In a further indication of just how perturbed Bill Clinton has been with this campaign, Bill made the following accusation against the Obama camp on a local Philadelphia radio show yesterday: "I think that they played the race card on me. We now know, from memos from the campaign that they planned to do it along."

It's not entirely clear what "memos" Bill might be referring to. The closest such memo in existence is one the Obama campaign put out a while ago, accusing the Clinton people of playing the race card on various occasions.

After the interview had officially ended, but while his microphone was still on, Bill upped the ante: "I don't think I should take any shit from anybody on that, do you?"

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[bluetrain]

1. Why do you find it bizarre that Obama's campaign would use strategies to win?

[KittyWampus]

4. it's bizarre Bill Clinton is making such blatant, unsubstantiated shit up about Obama

[bluetrain]

7. How do you know he's making it up? Maybe there are memos.

[Cha]

19. Because bil clinton is a fucking liar..

next question.

[ScarletSniper]

29. And that is something we definitely have proof of.. memo not needed. It's in the National Archives!

[Major Hogwash]

50. A convicted liar!

Lost his right to practice law for 5 years and paid a substantial fine for lying under oath to the grand jury.

But, how quick they forget.

[Cha]

66. Thanks, I forgot about

that "not being able to practice law for 5 years".

[shadowknows69]

20. Fine, let's see them

Until we do Bill is talking out his ass.

[goclark]

59. If he had the "memos" he sure would use them

Their noses grow longer everyday.

Shameful!

[Tom Rinaldo]

8. Obama apologized for the memo released by his SC campaign

He did so during the Nevada debate.

[cali]

27. so what? he didn't admit to playing the race card, and that's not

what he apologized for. And Clinton has had to apologize many times for questionable stuff coming out of her camp. your comment is not germane to the OP.

[dkf]

2. And to think this man was our President.

Scary.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

57. Maybe a different person was Prez

The Prez was "pre-bypass" Bill Clinton. He could have lost a few IQ points due to surgery.

http://heartdisease.about.com/library/weekly/aa021901a.htm

Now, THAT'S scary!

[islandmkl]

3. Bill just wants to retain his crown as 'First, and still reigning, Black President'...

[KittyWampus]

5. that position rightly belongs to Jimmy Carter who grew UP amongst black families

[Hugabear]

11. You know, that has ALWAYS really irked me when he said that

Bill Clinton may have done a lot for African Americans, but he WAS NOT BLACK. It's always struck me as somewhat disingenuous whenever that claim was made.

[QC]

15. He didn't say it: Toni Morrison did. n/t

[Zachstar]

I do not see how he can even feel he was after he said this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x117100

[ScarletSniper]

30. No retention going on there...Bill is Hillary and vice veresa..black vote gone..gone gone

[Major Hogwash]

47. Was his a Crown Royal, too?

Did he get to keep the shot glass?

[Maddy McCall]

6. He's right. Obama played the race card first, and he played it well.

Clinton has every right to be pissed about it.

And I'm glad that he doesn't take shit off people. He's a cool guy...he'll make a GREAT First Gentleman.

[Zachstar]

12. He will make a great one eh? Is this the same Bill?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x117100

[symbolman]

21. unless he starts sticking cigars in orifices in the White House...

honestly, at one point I was actually thinking how great it would be to have a woman for Prez, then Hillary signed Iraq's death warrant, and I knew that either she'd read the NIE and was dumb enough to vote for War, or she hadn't read it and was ineffectual..

In any case, that's the day I turned to my wife and said, "She's signing on for war, and will be running for Prez, as of today she will never get a vote from me..."

What scares me about Bill, now that I've lost all respect for him, and DID hold him in the highest regard back when, is that he'll potentially pull some sexual bullshit IN the White House and we'll get sucked into that crap all over again.. Seriously, I think something's happened to his mind since his major surgery..

Bug you I still respect, come what may in the Primaries :)

[uponit7771]

37. No Obama didn't, there's no amount of spinning you guys can do to make people believe that

[rodeodance]

48. Yes, I can't imagine how hurt Bill-and hillary were/are about this --given his

history of working with blacks around the world.

[City Lights]

9. He's totally lost it.

A desperate Bill is an ugly Bill.

[Zachstar]

10. Hey Bill remember this video?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x117100

[annie1]

13. good for him.

[TomClash]

14. As they used to say in TV, Bill has jumped the shark nt

[4themind]

16. It's time to put the big dog to sleep

politically that is

[Thrill]

17. What a surprise the Clinton Campaign bringing up race again

This why I expect the Repukes to win in Nov

[boobooday]

18. Ugh

He really needs to stop. It just gets worse and worse.

[C_U_L8R]

22. Okay who taught the snipers to write memos?!

[GoldieAZ49]

23. Comparing Barrak to OJ early on was a good indicator

and no Bill shouldn't take any shit from anybody on that

[dionysus]

24. yeah, he's the little baby jesus bill clinton, he can say all the racist shit he wants!!

:eyes:

[GoldieAZ49]

36. see post 33, Jesse Jackson Jr did just that, not Bill

[cali]

28. Disgusting as usual.

And sick. Comparing Barack to OJ is really fucked up. you need help. and so does your hero, bill. he's lying his ass off again.

[GoldieAZ49]

33. I agree, direct your anger at the person that made the comparison: Jesse Jackson Jr

But on the night of Obama's victory, Jesse Jr. had this to say to the Washington Post about the inadvisability of Obama going negative against Hillary Clinton: "The natural reminder here is O.J. —how does an African-American candidate attack a white woman?"


http://www.slate.com/id/2181356/


Obviously playing the race card behind the scene was their decision.

Disgusting and sick.

[GoldieAZ49]

61. Whats the matter cali? Is it ok for Jackson Jr to say?

Where is your outrage or is it only one sided?

is it really fucked up for Jackson Jr to say it, does he need help? Is he lying his ass off?


Come on, be consistent not biased.

[ScarletSniper]

32. OJ? yeah okay

[GoldieAZ49]

35. see post 33, Jesse Jackson Jr did just that

[ScarletSniper]

40. Sorry, I thought it was what you were saying..either way it's bullshit..

OJ and Obama can not be lumped in the same sentence, by anyone, period.

One is a killer.

One is a gentleman.

[GoldieAZ49]

44. I agree, it is outrageous

in any way by any one

Thank you

[ScarletSniper]

53. Being a black woman..I will tell you I remember the verdict and was in "mixed" company when the

verdict came in..and the reaction was so vastly different between my black employees and white employees.

I spoke to many of them privately, and the reasoning for their reactions were vastly different too. For some of my white employees, it was about an a complete injustice, and the black jury let him off. For some black employees, it was about a win against a system full of injustice and the black jury struck a blow. Now granted in all this emotional posturing Nicole and Ron were lost in the shuffle for both sides. Of course, there were a few from either side that didn't take sides and just saw it as another senseless murder in a corrupt and bankrupt society (that's a whole other chapter)..lol

I could go into greater detail on my experience, but it requires a glass of wine and a nice view..stop by sometime...!

One thing I noticed though...in this Democratic Presidential race color and injustice has not reared its head amongst the group. It's about getting Bush out. Although many are Obama supporters, there are some Clinton supporters too, yet no animosity or bitterness exists like here on DU:GP. A good sign for the long haul, I think.

[GoldieAZ49]

56. I doubt the animosity and bitterness by some here is carried out to their

lives offline.

Something about an anonymous message board emboldens people to act in a way they never would face to face with another human being. At least I hope so.

It is a way for them to vent, and hopefully be civil in the real world.

I tell my mom some of the things I read here, she is shocked by it as well.

[Blue_State_Elitist]

25. It's fairly obvious that part of the Obama strategy was to turn black voters against Clinton.

Without the 90 percent of black votes that he has been getting in every state, this primary would look a lot different. The move toward painting Bill as a racist was good politics, not necessary the politics of hope, but good politics nonetheless.

[ScarletSniper]

31. What about those states with a low population of "colored" folk?

Anyways...the Clintons lost the black vote all their own...when I decided to back Barack, it was before South Carolina, New Hampshire and Iowa..the clintons lost me sometime ago.

[Blue_State_Elitist]

38. Certainly the black vote isn't the only reason Barack has done so well.

It is only one of the crucial parts of his strategy.

[ScarletSniper]

41. What's wrong with strategy? It's not racist or playing the race card to go after black voters..Hill

goes after women voters...and white women voters too boot.

[Blue_State_Elitist]

43. Nothing at all.

[uponit7771]

39. Right because Obama has ALWAYS enjoyed the 9 - 1 vote huh? You lose credibility with spin

[Blue_State_Elitist]

42. I think you would have a hard time arguing

that Obama would be doing so well without the 80-90 percent he routinely gets from black voters. It's a crucial part of his strategy. No spin there.

[BlueIdaho]

26. "I don't think I should take any shit from anyone on this one do you?"

that's how Billy ended the interview - VERY presidential... VERY disappointing!

[ScarletSniper]

34. He stopped looking presidential when he lied, when he used a cigar and when the blue dress turned up

and when he was impeached.

His performance now is just icing on the cake..with candles and sprinkles.

[Major Hogwash]

45. Was this after he was drinking?

I mean, how blotto does he have to be before someone takes the microphone away from him.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

46. link please?

just copy and past the link into your op.

[CreekDog]

49. Guess they forcibly made him refer to Jesse Jackson for a week

:eyes:

damn! just last night i threw out some old newspapers recounting Clinton's visit and my seeing Bill Clinton in 2000. i don't hate him and that's not why i tossed them, i just didn't feel like keeping them anymore.

[uponit7771]

51. They have been trying to define Obama as the "black" candidate for months. They can spin all they...

...want but it aint workin

[CreekDog]

58. it is working, just not quite well enough for her to win the nomination

and not as well as her campaign (apparently) expected. and it's sickening that this is how they thought they could win and additionally found it an acceptable way to win.

[Ichingcarpenter]

52. Pick up by NBC now..... Bill said WHAT?

Some legacy fixing? Per NBC/NJ’s Mike Memoli, Bill Clinton appeared on WHYY radio (an NPR affiliate), in which he defended comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson right before the South Carolina contest (“No, I think they played the race card on me”), and in which he misstates some of the facts surrounding his comment. Also, at the end of the interview, Bill doesn’t appear to know he’s still on the air when he hurls an expletive at an aide.












http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/22/930280.aspx

[hedgehog]

54. I thought Hillary was the Clinton that is running this time around.

"played the race card on me"?

[KittyWampus]

63. good catch!

[Catherina]

55. Go back to your womanizing Bill.

That woman diet Hillary put you on is making you unwell.

[SoCalDem]

64. yep.. he was a lot more likable when he was fooling around

:rofl:

[SeaLyons]

60. Good for Bill....

He's telling the truth. Race card has been played at every turn by the Obama camp.

[Justitia]

62. Put Up or Shut Up Bill. Better yet, quit embarrassing the Party and just go away. -eom

[SKKY]

65. If they had memos, they would have produced them already...

...You think they're going to sit on something like that when HRC is about to have the carpet pulled out from under her? Bill is doing some serious damage to his reputation in this campaign.

[Skwmom]

67. Andrea Mitchell on Good Morning Joe repeated this as FACT.

Journalistic Integrity? It doesn't exist anymore.