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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:00 AM
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Bill Clinton: Obama Played Race Card On Me
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/bill-clinton-ob.html

- "I don't think I should take any s--t from anybody on that, do you?"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:00 AM
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:03 AM
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6. I am so glad that his slimy ass won't be going back to the White House
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:19 AM
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19. I think you're both in the wrong forum
Perhaps you clicked on the wrong link. This is a Democratic political forum, not a Republican one.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:40 PM
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45. Then best you and the rest of the Bush-Lites, i.e., HilLIARy supporters, might want to leave.
Just a thought...:hi:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:02 AM
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2. Poor, Bill.
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:02 AM
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3. Poor little Slick Willy ...
nobody gives a fuck about him now.

That has got to be driving him INSANE!
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:02 AM
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4. This is not the Bill Clinton I used to admire so much
Or maybe it is, and I didn't know it. Either way, it makes me sad to hear him say these things.:-(
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:18 AM
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18. Ditto.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:20 AM
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22. I like him better this way
He's more honest and open, something he couldn't do when he was POTUS.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:41 PM
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46. Did you pick up on him telling off the reporter after he made this gaffe?
Wow...talk sounding like a MAD DOG instead of a BIG DOG. Very sad to see how he has deteriorated.

JMHO
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:03 AM
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5. NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:36 PM
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39. LOL!
:thumbsup::rofl:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:03 AM
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7. So Bill's back to whining.
That didn't take long. :eyes:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:05 AM
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8. He sounds like a whiner
I thought he said they dont whine?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:05 AM
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9. Bill has ceased to be an asset to Hillary's campaign as far as I'm concerned.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:10 AM
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13. Why she didn't mothball him after South Carolina, I'll never understand.
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:08 AM
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10. Playing the victim
seems to run in the family. We can only hope that Chelsea doesn't enter politics.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:10 AM
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11. Truly pathetic!
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:10 AM
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12. Don't say he's just like Jesse Jackson, then you can complain
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:22 AM
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25. Name one other candidate who won SC on racial voting
Only Jackson and Obama won with unanimous support from one racial group and little support from the other. Everybody else won by winning across racial lines.

Is it bigoted to compare the next Mormon to Mitt Romney? Romney got over 90% of the Mormon vote. 90% from "his group". Sound familiar?
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:11 AM
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14. He doesn't have to take any shit from anyone because he's too full of it!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:12 AM
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15. The perpetual victim
Poor Bill Clinton...

:eyes:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:13 AM
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16. Hell Bill remember this?
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:38 PM
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42. Nice one!
I can't keep up with all the insults. :crazy:
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:18 AM
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17. Actually Bill you tried to imply that ...
"If you've seen one black candidate for president you've seen them all."

You brought up the comparison to Jesse Jackson why? Because you wanted to lump Barack Obama in with every other black leader in the country. You wanted to point out that he wasn't a leader for all because of his skin color. Blacks only lead blacks. That was your implication Bill.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:24 AM
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28. No, his point was factual. Only two candidates have ever won SC on racial voting
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:25 AM by jackson_dem
It wasn't John Glenn and Mike Gravel...

Mitt Romney won Utah. When the next Mormon candidate wins Utah will it be bigoted to point out "He ran a good campaign, just like Mitt Romney did in Utah"?
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Diamond Dog Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:27 AM
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31. I dunno. Did the Clintons do well in Wisconsin?
Remind me, plz.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:28 AM
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32. Did Bill Clinton win the SC primary with 80% of the white vote and 20% of the black vote?
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:29 AM by jackson_dem
Did Edwards? Gore? Carter?

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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:32 AM
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35. And to bring up Jesse Jackson, he had to deliberately overlook the more current and relevant example
- John Edwards. Edwards won SC last cycle and did not go on to be president. Clinton had to skip that one to dig up the racial Jesse Jackson example.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:39 PM
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43. Wrong. Edwards won both the white and black vote in 2004
He didn't win 80% of the white vote and 20% of the black vote. Only two candidates have won SC with an odd mix of unanimous support from one racial group and little support from the other SC Dem racial half: Obama and Jackson.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:20 AM
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20. Bill is a STAIN on the Democratic Party
He'll have his CUMuppance soon...I mean...again.

:rofl:


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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:20 AM
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21. It is the truth. People forget Obama's two pronged racial and homophobia strategy in SC
If he lost SC he would have been effectively done.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:23 AM
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26. kind of like how Bill played a radio ad in 96 promoting DOMA and his defense of 'American values'?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:23 AM
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27. Yes. Is Bill running by the way?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:26 AM
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30. Hillary sure is running on his presidency...
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:09 PM
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36. And Obama is running against it by distorting his presidency
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:21 AM
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23. I can just see him sniveling about this.
When Obama does what people mistakenly call whining, he's being funny about it. He uses it to laugh at stuff.

When Bill does it...oh man I can just imagine how whiny he sounds.

Its all in the tone.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:21 AM
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24. I guess Al Gore was right not to use Bill Clinton in 2000 after all
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:22 AM by Jennicut
Bill is a complete whiner. Go home to New York if you "can say in the fire and stand the heat". What a baby. I used to like and admire and respect this man. I guess I was wrong about him.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:25 AM
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29. "Jesse Jackson won in South Carolina, too."
:eyes:
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:30 AM
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33. The more he hysterically protests, the more he sounds like an institutional racist
:(

I wish he would just stop talking while he still has a legacy left.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:31 AM
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34. I think the Clinton's "whining" adds will have to stop now.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:18 PM
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37. Nice whining Bill! Of course Obama made you say things dismissive of black voters.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:34 PM
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38. What did he say that was "dismissive"? Jesse Jackson himself agrees with what Bill said
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 12:40 PM by jackson_dem
Jackson: (laughs) "We both know what is going on"

Clinton was talking about SC political history in a conversation that included 2 AA's. Name a candidate not named Jackson or Obama who won the SC Dem primary on racial voting--80% from one racial half of the Dems in the state and 20% from the other. Clinton? Edwards? Carter? Gore? They all won across racial lines. Which two didn't?

A. Mike Gravel and Chris Dodd
B. Dennis Kucinich and Tom Harkin
C. Paul Simon and Dick Gephardt
D. Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama

In 2004 there was a consistency in voting in SC that cut across race. Edwards was first with both groups, Kerry second with both. Everybody did the same with both group. The only exception was Al Sharpton getting 17% of the black vote (third) and 1% of the white vote. Aside from that it was the same.

Whites: Edwards>Kerry>Clark>Dean/Lieberman>Kucinich/Sharpton
Blacks: Edwards>Kerry>Sharpton>Clark>Dean>Lieberman>Sharpton

Compare that to 2008.

Whites: Edwards 40%, Hillary 36%, Obama 24%
Blacks: Obama 78%, Hillary 19%, Edwards 1%

One point Bill got at in the interview is the Obama campaign tries to hide the fact it receives overwhelming black support. Isn't that real racism? There is nothing to be ashamed of. Did Romney try to hide his Mormon support (ps: he won utah with 91%. That wasn't a coincidence :eyes: )?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:36 PM
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40. Bill Clinton: Hey, forget my wife threatened to obliterate an entire nation. Let's talk about race!
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:37 PM
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41. Now Bill is denying he said this
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:39 PM
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44. Not to worry. After it's over, he'll apologize.....as usual.
And, be verrrry sincere about it....as usual.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:42 PM
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47. He said the truth. No Obamite is disputing the merits of what he said
Jesse Jackson himself agrees with what Bill said.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:42 PM
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48. Actually Bill, you're going to have a lot more of that shit coming your way...
especially if you keep running your mouth and making racially insensitive comments. Your title as "First Black President" is about to be rescinded.
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