How embarrassing. Billl Clinton caught lying again.

[tabasco]

They played a clip on MSNBC with Bill Clinton saying he had been "race-baited" by the Obama campaign and "it was their plan all along."

Then they show a clip of a reporter asking Bill Clinton about the statement and he wags his finger and says "that's not what I said" and starts a rant about the media "playing games" with him. A bald-faced lie with the finger wagging to boot.

The Clintons have become an embarrassment to the Democratic party and the sooner they realize they will not occupy the White House again, the better. There is a lot of good they can do in the world but they need to put an end on their desperate power grab.

[NightWatcher]

1. he's a huge raging liar. "I never said that" um, Bill they played the quote on air

news flash to all people in public.
WE RECORD EVERYTHING YOU SAY

[PoliticalAmazon]

49. BIG SURPRISE: It wasn't about his dick this time. n/t

[Zhade]

56. clinton must get it from her husband - TUZLA VIDEO anyone?

NT!

[Diamond Dog]

2. LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS.

Chiefly, the SS Clinton.

[PoliticalAmazon]

50. "Loose dicks on big pricks." n/t

[DJ13]

3. How can you tell when a Clinton is lying?

With Bill, its when he wags his finger.

With Hillary, its when she starts cackling.

[The_Counsel]

8. ...And When Bill Wags His Finger AND Squints His Left Eye Shut ... WOAH, NELLIE!! (n|t)

I said "no text," folks! Didn't you read the subject line? :evilgrin:

[City Lights]

4. Another day, another Clinton lie.

Same shit, different day.

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. Very contagious. Spouses catch it from each other.

[goclark]

10. Introducing Mr. and Mrs. Liar nt

[Exilednight]

6. Most people call it embarrassing, Bill calls it......

just another Tuesday.

[papau]

7. that is not what I saw - there was no lie - what he said was true about Obama playing the race card

[tabasco]

13. He denied saying something that they had on tape.

Sorry, Charlie, that's called lying.

You are either too stupid or too biased to understand it.

[Zhade]

57. You're responding to someone the mods have caught plagiarizing others' works TWICE on this board.

Intellectual honesty is not that poster's strong suit.

[guruoo]

16. Sure was

[ecstatic]

18. he denied it on Msnbc nt

[ScarletSniper]

25. Huh, he denied what he said yesterday, today...lol..he lied!

[Auntie Bush]

36. Obama certainly was the one guilty of playing the race card and lying about it.

Talk about being a liar! Obama and most his supporters are out and out liars. Watch...I bet they can't take it...just like the debate. FIRST time anyone challenges Obama in this long Primary he folds up like accordion pleats.

[Zhade]

58. TUZLA.

You're dismissed.

[Connie_Corleone]

9. When he wags his finger, he's lying.

I think we learned that lesson years ago.

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. You know when else he wagged his finger

When he was confronted by a 911 truther.........mmmmmmm

[rndmprsn]

11. as much as i used to adore the clinton...its all over now

they are dead to me and should be to this entire party for their horrible behavior this primary season

[redqueen]

14. Embarrassing for whom?

I won't believe anyone's embarrassed about this until they say so.

[tabasco]

19. I'm embarrassed.

I defended Bill (and Hillary) Clinton for years against my asshole freeper relatives and other assorted republican nitwits.

Now he makes me feel like a fool with his slovenly behavior.

All Democrats should feel embarrassed to see one of our senior statesmen act like this.

[redqueen]

21. I only defended them when it was warranted.

I'm not embarrassed because I think it's good that at least some Dems are finally able to see through the PR.

[hedgehog]

15. I'm still waiting to see the memo that says "use the race card against Bill"

:rofl:

[guruoo]

24. The infamous Obama race strategy memo:

On edit: from Huffingtonpost.

Subject: MUST READ: Key S.C. figure takes issue with Clintons

SHUCK AND JIVE

Clinton Supporter Andrew Cuomo, Referring To Obama, Said "You Can't Shuck
And Jive At A Press Conference. All Those Moves You Can Make With The Press
Don't Work When You're In Someone's Living Room." Clinton-supporting New
York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo said the thing that's great about New
Hampshire is that you have to go out and meet people rather than "shuck and
jive" through press conferences there. Cuomo said of New Hampshire on an
Albany radio station: "It's not a TV-crazed race. Frankly, you can't buy
your way into it. You can't shuck and jive at a press conference. All those
moves you can make with the press don't work when you're in someone's living
room."

MARTIN LUTHER KING / LYNDON JOHNSON COMPARISON

Clinton, Criticizing Obama For Promising "False Hope" Said That While MLK
Jr. Spoke On Behalf Of Civil Rights, President Lyndon Johnson Was The One
Who Got Legislation Passed: "It Took A President To Get It Done." Clinton
rejoined the running argument over hope and "false hope" in an interview in
Dover this afternoon, reminding Fox's Major Garrett that while Martin Luther
King Jr. spoke on behalf of civil rights, President Lyndon Johnson was the
one who got the legislation passed. Hillary was asked about Obama's
rejoinder that there's something vaguely un-American about dismissing hopes
as false, and that it doesn't jibe with the careers of figures like John F.
Kennedy and King. "Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President
Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," Clinton said. "It took a president to
get it done."

Clinton Introducer Said JFK Gave Hope, But Was Assassinated. Clinton
introducer: "If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the
other candidates to JFK and he was a wonderful leader, he gave us a lot of
hope but he was assassinated and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all his
work and got the republicans to pass all those measures." 1/7/08] AUDIO ATTACHED

NELSON MANDELA

Bill Clinton Implied Hillary Clinton Is Stronger Than Nelson Mandela. "I
have been blessed in my life to know some of the greatest figures of the
last hundred years. <...> I go to Nelson Mandela's birthday party every year
and we're still very close. <...> But if you said to me, 'You've got one last
job for your country but it's hazardous and you may not get out with life
and limb intact and you have to do it alone except I'll let you take one
other person, and I had to pick one person whom I knew who would never
blink, who would never turn back, who would make great decisions <...> I would
pick Hillary.'"

DRUG USE

Clinton's NH Campaign Chair Raised The Youthful Drug Use Of Obama And Said
It Would "Open The Door To Further Queries On The Matter." Clinton's
Campaign Issued A Statement Distancing Themselves From Shaheen's Comments
And Shaheen Issued A Statement Saying That He "Deeply Regret The
Comments." The Democratic presidential race took on a decidedly nasty and
personal turn, with the New Hampshire co-chair for Clinton, raising the
youthful drug use of Obama. Shaheen said Obama's having been so open -- as
opposed to then-Gov. George W. Bush, who refused to detail his past drug use
during his 2000 presidential campaign -- will "open the door to further
queries on the matter. It'll be, 'When was the last time? Did you ever give
drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?'" Shaheen said. "There are so
many openings for Republican dirty tricks. It's hard to overcome." By the
end of the day, Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer had issued a
statement asserting that "these comments were not authorized or condoned by
the campaign in any way." And Shaheen himself issued a statement: "I deeply
regret the comments I made today and they were not authorized by the
campaign in any way."

Mark Penn, In Trying To Defend His Campaign Over Bill Shaheen's Obama Drug
Use Comments, Used The Word "Cocaine," Drawing A Rebuke From Edwards Adviser
Joe Trippi. Mark Penn, defending the Clinton campaign in light of Bill
Shaheen's comments about Obama's drug use, repeatedly referenced Obama's
cocaine use. Edwards adviser Joe Trippi accused Penn of dropping the word
"cocaine" deliberately. Mark Penn said "Well, I think we have made clear
that the -- the issue related to cocaine use is not something that the
campaign was in any way raising. And I think that has been made clear. I
think this kindergarten thing was a joke after Senator." Joe Trippie
responded and said "I think he just did it again. He just did it again. ...
This guy's been filibustering on this. He just said cocaine again."


FAIRY TALE

Donna Brazile Lashed Into Bill Clinton For Comparing Obama To A "Fairy Tale"
And Said "It's An Insult... As An African-American" And That His Tone And
Words Are "Very Depressing." Donna Brazile lit into Bill Clinton over his
insulting comments of Obama, where he called him a "fairy tale" and said "I
could understand his frustration at this moment. But, look, he shouldn't
take out all his pain on Barack Obama. It's time that they regroup. Figure
out what Hillary needs to do to get her campaign back on track. It sounds
like sour grapes coming from the former commander in chief. Someone that
many Democrats hold in high esteem. For him to go after Obama, using a fairy
tale, calling him as he did last week. It's an insult. And I will tell you,
as an African-American, I find his tone and his words to be very depressing.
... I think his tone, I think calling Barack Obama a kid, he is a United
States senator."


Amaya Smith
South Carolina Press Secretary
Obama for America

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html

[Window]

35. ..

[hedgehog]

45. So a response pointing out race baiting becomes race baiting?

I forgot that we're discussing typical Clinton campaign backwards talk.

[guruoo]

48. The memo's characterizations of Clinton's words are themselves the race bait.

[ecstatic]

17. How can anyone trust those people to be in charge?

Responsible for our citizens and troops?

[uponit7771]

20. Bills not helping Hillary

[BenDavid]

22. He was & the obama campaign did race bait and blame the Clintons

Obama's campaign deliberately smeared Hillary and Bill Clinton as racist in order to capture the votes of Blacks and college liberals. When it comes to Senator Barack Obama, the only thing I'm certain of is that after all these months, we still do not know who he is. (I'm also certain that Hillary and Bill Clinton are Not racist!)

While promoting Obama as a "post-racial" figure, his campaign has purposefully polluted the contest with a new strain of what historically has been the most toxic poison in American politics. . . More than any other maneuver, this one has brought Clinton into disrepute with important portions of the Democratic Party. A review of what actually happened shows that the charges that the Clintons played the “race card” were not simply false; they were deliberately manufactured by the Obama camp and trumpeted by a credulous and/or compliant press corps in order to strip away her once formidable majority among black voters and to outrage affluent, college-educated white liberals as well as college students.

The Clinton campaign, in fact, has not racialized the campaign, and never had any reason to do so. Rather the Obama campaign and its supporters, well-prepared to play the “race-baiter card” before the primaries began, launched it with a vengeance when Obama ran into dire straits after his losses in New Hampshire and Nevada–and thereby created a campaign myth that has turned into an incontrovertible truth among political pundits, reporters, and various Obama supporters.

This development is the latest sad commentary on the malign power of the press, hyping its own favorites and tearing down those it dislikes, to create pseudo-scandals of the sort that hounded Al Gore during the 2000 campaign. It is also a commentary on how race can make American politics go haywire. Above all, it is a commentary on the cutthroat, fraudulent politics that lie at the foundation of Obama’s supposedly uplifting campaign."

[ScarletSniper]

26. All of that...and you missed the OPs point. It is simple Bill lied about what he said yesterday.

[ScarletSniper]

23. Oooo..Billy "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Clinton is a liar? I'm shocked! n/t

[guruoo]

27. Big question here is, was WJC refering to the video, or the reporter's characterization of it ?

[Kokonoe]

28. the Clintons seem more furious that they cannot turn

Obamas campaign into a brawl, then they are upset with losing.

[Andrea]

29. Your post is an embarrassment to you

How can you post something like this and not have anything factual in the post?

[tabasco]

37. I'm embarrased to be a fellow citizen of so many idiots

who can't handle the truth.

[Andrea]

40. Then why didn't you factually explain what this is about?

I clicked on your thread expecting to see some specific instance of him lying, and all you have is some rehashed stuff from months ago.

[tabasco]

47. Fact: There is a recording of Bill Clinton making a statement.

Fact: There is video of Bill Clinton denying he made the statement.

Fact: MSNBC played these two clips repeatedly this morning to show that Bill Clinton was lying.

Fact: When prominent Democrats are exposed as liars, it is an embarrassment to the entire party.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/22/931095.aspx

[Zhade]

59. Yeah, like clinton's "low information" supporters, who ignore or deny her proven lies.

NT!

[Auntie Bush]

30. I'd say the Obama supporters are the ones who are an embarrassment to

the Democratic party. They started out damaging our party by bringing up all the vicious right wing talking points and lies about the Clintons. Our own President was raked through the coals and degraded by Obama supporters. They couldn't have been more derogatory than caustic Rethugs. It was damn right embarrassing to see our own party stooping so low...even bringing up Monica, and all that baggage as if that was Hillary's fault. I spent my days and nights here doing nothing but defending Hillary from the attacks and lies spread about the Clintons.

Don't anyone tell me that didn't happen because I was right here to witness it first hand. It was down right shocking and disgusting... and they are still at it! They even brought out the race card to turn blacks against the Clintons and then blamed the Clintons for starting it. Then they proceeded to believe their own LIES. Everyone knew the Clintons were far from being racist. But it sure helped Obama...he needed a good reason for the blacks to betray their long time advocate. It worked! Don't bother wasting your time away from lambasting Clinton to say it had anything to do with Bill's fairy tale comment or Hillary's MLK comment. Their meaning was DELIBERATELY distorted & lied about in order to siphon off black votes in spite of the damage and split to the Democratic party. The ends justified the means. I laugh every time I hear O supporters blame and hate Clinton for their own damage...talk about hypocrisy!

[tabasco]

38. So, no defense of Clinton's lying

just an irrelevant rant?

[Auntie Bush]

41. No, just the truth!

Sorry you don't like it. I know it's tough to accept the fact that your hero also lies...during a primary while trying to win. But, I really believe Hillary has be accused of making lies that she hasn't. It's just soooo sad to see fellow Dems believe their own campaign tactics as truth.

[Zhade]

62. Well, at least you admit you're supporting a liar.

That's less delusional than most of clinton's (happily dwindling) supporters here.

[Blue-Jay]

53. *All* Obama supporters, or just a select few?

"I spent my days and nights here doing nothing but defending Hillary from the attacks and lies spread about the Clintons. "

You should get a hobby.

[Blarch]

31. He is a joke.

[Arugula Latte]

32. I'm seriously beginning to think his heart bypass operation is affecting his mind.

I'm not trying to be snarky; there's a documented phenomenon whereby people commonly suffer some degree of brain damage during bypass surgery. It can manifest itself in anger and forgetfulness.

[Auntie Bush]

33. Double post...self delete.

[Broadslidin]

34. Lawyers are preparing the divorce papers as we speak....

The next meet up.

Bill + Hillary = :nuke:

[cliss]

39. The Clintons and their lies.

This is a mystery to me. These people are not stupid: they have been in public life their entire careers. They understand the media, surely they MUST realize the tape recorder is ALWAYS ON. No matter what you say, there will always be someone taking notes.


This smacks of desperation.

[undeterred]

42. They would need years of therapy from Reverend Wright.

[nichomachus]

43. In the interest of saving bandwidth

We should probably start a thread only when Bill tells the truth. That will probably be once a month or so.

[Seeker30]

44. Do you all simply cut and paste from Freeperville?

And you wonder why 23% of Hillary supporters won't vote for Obama in the GE.

[tabasco]

46. Unfortunately, it's on national tv.

Bill Clinton is embarrassing us again.

Apparently, you can't handle the truth, which is a trait of freepers.

[Seeker30]

51. No, a trait of freepers is to trash Bill

Been that way for 15 + years, proud of the company you keep?

[Heywood J]

54. Are you explicitly saying that to speak negatively

about Bill Clinton, in any way, for any reason, or on any subject, is to be a Freeper or associate with Freepers?

Just to be clear.

[tabasco]

60. Blind loyalty and intolerance of criticsm is a trait of freepers.

Democrats are allowed to criticize their leaders. Do you praise Bill Clinton when he tells a lie on national tv? Or do you simply refuse to acknowledge that it happens? I will also remind you that it was you who began with the freeper slur, which is a personal attack. That is the response of a stupid person without an answer.

[Zhade]

63. There's actual video of him saying one thing, than saying he didn't say what he said.

He got caught in an undeniable lie (well, undeniable to honest people who don't deny the evidence right in front of their eyes).

[JeanGrey]

52. So what else is new? Yow know it REALLY galls me that

the right wing knuckle draggers were right about the Clinton's all along. I'll always be pissed at them even for only JUST THAT.

[tabasco]

55. IMO, the knuckle draggers were mostly wrong about Bill Clinton.

They were wrong about him being a terrible President. For example, republicans said Clinton's economic plan would destroy the economy.

But they were right about him being a liar. Of course, when he said "I didn't inhale," anyone with an IQ over forty knew he was a liar.

Clinton moved the party far to the right and has become more of a republican than a Democrat. The Clintons seem to have developed a sense of entitlement, and become much too cozy with the Bushes and other right-wing traitors. The Clintons were not always corrupt, but they lost their scruples due to their weak characters and blind ambition.

[JeanGrey]

65. I agree. But it is still galling.

[Thepricebreaker]

61. No wonder he never stumped for Gore.. he is bad as a rep of your camp.

[DevonRex]

64. Yes they are an embarrassment. nt