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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:48 PM
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Carville: There is No Political Gain in Winning a State You Are Expected to Win.
Let's just remember those words form a die-hard Hillary Supporter as we watch the results come in tonight. He said that in reference to Obama winning Mississippi by 24 points.

Hillary and Hillary Supporters, There is No Political Gain in Winning a State You Are Expected to Win.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:52 PM
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1. nice catch
I don't think Obama will be losing like that thrashing in Miss, though.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:52 PM
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2. Unless your candidate won it.

what a self-serving little weasel that guy is.
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The_Counsel Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:52 PM
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3. What Was That Rachel Maddow Was Saying...?
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 03:53 PM by The_Counsel
...about remembering the things you've said in the past? In the Age of YouTube, you'll get burned every time.

See "Allen, George" for reference.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:53 PM
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4. Since when has Carville been given the DU nod?
He's disgusting.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:54 PM
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5. He is disgusting.
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 04:02 PM by tekisui
And his words should be thrown back at him.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:56 PM
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6. Got link?
I've never heard of such a thing.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:59 PM
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7. He said it on ABC.
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 04:02 PM by tekisui
Hillary Supporters, here, did not actually defend what Carville said, As far as I can find.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:10 PM
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8. And we should believe him because? eom
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:26 AM
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26. Here's the link, if you're interested.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:03 PM
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17. everyone on the news hates his comment about the middle of
Penn being Alabama. He's a complete ass.
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:11 PM
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9. K&R
:shrug:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:24 PM
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10. kick
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 05:38 PM
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11. bump.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 05:40 PM
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12. Clinton and her minions have their own set of rules.
They don't have to play by the rules that the little people do. By definition, everything they say and do is correct.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 05:41 PM
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13. Hahahahaha... nice!
:D
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 05:42 PM
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14. Hence, No change - Obama still will not be able
to rally the party after losing in PA.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 05:43 PM
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15. I rented The War Room tonight on netflix, just cause I'd never seen it
It's so funny to watch it and see George shake his head and say "That's the old politics. Old politics", and Carville say "Whenever someone comes along with vision and hope, the opposite side dumps on them."
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 05:52 PM
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16. Good point.
Carville dismissed the Obama win in Mississippi as "expected", due to the state's demographics. The same argument holds true for Hillary in PA.

I don't think she's going to win by 24 points.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:56 PM
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18. Kick for Hillary's expected non political gaining win.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:39 AM
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35. I think this topic is great, btw.
I don't know why it's not getting much attention...
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:57 PM
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19. Hmmmmmm nice
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:57 PM
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20. Helps raise money
and helps convince the Super D's they need to focus on the GE and a candidate who can win the battleground states.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:58 PM
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21. Did Clinton spend $11 million on tv ads alone to lose MS?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:10 AM
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31. Did she have it to spend?
;)
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:00 PM
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22. Just watch, wait and see!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:02 PM
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23. ****LINK*** to his statement.. and the words from the pig's mouth
http://paeditorsblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/mississippi-magic.html

On CNN's live TV coverage, Carville predictably downplayed the Mississippi primary results by saying Obama was expected to win, so it doesn't change things.

Carville's logic begs the question of why Clinton's expected victories in each of the states she has won – she led in the polls in each of the states she won since she stepped into the race – makes a case for her being a stronger candidate?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:49 AM
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24. Thanks for the link. Kick for the morning after.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:18 AM
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25. K&R
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:27 AM
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27. So I wonder what Carville thinks about this now?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:28 AM
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28. Not just Carville, most in the M$M are treating this like a BIG WIN!
It's sad.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:31 AM
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29. So is Carville full of shit or not? You guys are confusing me.
One day he is Satan and the next he is quoted? So which is it?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:49 AM
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30. Is your world really that black and white?
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:50 AM by redqueen
Agree with him or don't... but it's a nice contrast - what he said then vs. what her campaign & the M$M are saying now. Don't you think?
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:22 AM
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32. My world is not, and my world
is not full of hypocrisies either.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:27 AM
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33. What?
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:39 AM
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34. ¿Qué? n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:49 AM
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36. It *is* funny, though.
IMO anyway.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:55 AM
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41. So are you irony challenged or what? nt
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:13 AM
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37. Carville
Ok, just on the subject of him...still watching the War Room , and it's HILARIOUS! Carville and Matalin are so corny! I would almost pay to see a Love Story with them in it. Carville: "We should be on this like stink on shit! Ok, I'm going to make like a hockey player and get the PUCK out of here!" . And Matalin making fun of a reporter's tie? "Nice tie...I can tell that your MOTHER picked it out for you. Nice FAMILY VALUES. Nice FAMILY VALUES!" And then Carville starts crying when George (who James calls "Georgie") tell him that he is now a "political legend." (worth noting that after that, Carville gives a speech with his hands on his hips and tells the War Room that "everyone there can be trusted").







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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:31 AM
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38. Eh... I'll pass.
I do want to see The Fog of War, though. I keep putting that off.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:02 PM
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42. Last weekend, Matalin said people are tired of Bush bashing...
They really are too much.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:49 AM
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39. TRANSCRIPT of Carville downplaying Obama's Mississippi win
Yeah, I'm sure he was consistent with last night's PA victory...

CARVILLE: Well, first off, congratulations to Senator Obama and a lot of fine folks in Mississippi and they participated in this. And my congratulations to them.

I think it's a good win for him. It was widely expected. So, therefore, to some extent in the political marketplace, it's like the stock market. If you anticipate something and you meet expectations, it doesn't change a lot.

Aired March 11, 2008 - 20:00 ET

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0803/11/se.01.html
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:54 AM
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40. K and R. nt
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:12 PM
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43. oh, did Carville say that? cool.
Just like Bill talking about Hope in '04...
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