Ten Things to Remember on Tuesday Night

[babylonsister]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-grahamesmith/ten-things-to-remember-on_b_97897.html

Seth Grahame-Smith

Ten Things to Remember on Tuesday Night

Posted April 21, 2008 | 11:58 PM (EST)


Hillary Clinton will win Pennsylvania.

Arguments over the meaning or meaninglessness of her win will dominate MSM and stretch bandwidth to its breaking point. Bloggers and pundits will dust off their favorite boxing metaphors: "Hillary's off the ropes!" "Obama can't land the knockout!" Hillbots will rejoice, Obamabots will panic, and McCainbots will watch Murder She Wrote and go to bed at six-thirty. I'll probably write a scathing post attempting to prove that Hillary is the devil incarnate. We'll all lose our minds.

In hope of preventing some of this hysteria (especially my own), I thought it'd be helpful to keep a few things in mind during Tuesday night's results -- from Hillary's "victory" speech to the blizzard of spin that's sure to follow:

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5. Remember that when the pundits argue that Obama can't win in white rural areas because they broke for Hillary, they're ignoring the fact that he won (in alphabetical order): Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Dakota, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.

6. Remember that when Hillary talks about who will be "better against John McCain in the fall," she's talking about the fall of 2012.

7. Remember that Hillary's campaign is $10M in debt, while Obama's has more than $40M in cash on hand.

8. Remember that Hillary's lead in Pennsylvania was as a high as 26 points only a month ago.

9. Remember that Hillary's late Pennsylvania rebound was forged in the fires of negativity and fear-mongering.

10. Remember that the only manufacturing job Hillary ever brought to Pennsylvania was the manufactured notion that she was a middle-class, whisky-swilling duck killer, and not an anti-union multi-millionaire.

[Mags]

1. scared much?

[dchill]

10. I'm nervous as hell, but it's a temporary thing...

your condition, however, is much more resilient! :hi:

[Mags]

12. got ya.

[babylonsister]

19. Mags, dear, look for the link. I didn't write this but thought it amusing.

Scared of what? I expect Clinton to win by a small margin tonight and expect we'll have to wait until the NC/Indiana primaries.
I also expect Obama to be the presumptive nominee sooner rather than later.

Like I asked, scared of what?

[Cant trust em]

2. 8 is the most salient detail to me.

Obama can go wherever he wants and raise support and cash.

[babylonsister]

5. I agree; everyone is super-critical of Obama on the m$m today, but that

fact is glaring to me.

[Cant trust em]

11. Right now Obama has to fight on two fronts - Clinton and McCain

and the GE electoral maps are pretty close. Imagine when it's just him vs. McCain. He's going to wipe the floor with that geezer when it's one on one. There's no way McCain can compete with Obama's support, fundraising, and enthusiasm. I specifically leave out policy in this estimation because to compare the policy plans between these two is a joke.

[babylonsister]

14. No, three.

Clinton, Clinton, McCain. ;)

[Justitia]

22. Who knew we'd have to take on three republicans at once???? -eom

[futureliveshere]

3. I Love 10. This is the crux of it all for me. She is just making hollow claims.

[eleny]

4. thx!

:pals:

[NJmaverick]

6. If she wins by 20, she has a right to stay in the race

If she wins by 15, I would entertain aguements that she should at least stay in until May 6th

Less than 15% and she really should drop out


Less than 10% she has to drop out

[XemaSab]

16. But the pisser here is that I really can't see her dropping out

if she "wins" by even a fraction of a percent, even if such a "win" tonight would totally hose her as far as the math goes.

I think she's going to fight on at least until North Carolina.

[David Zephyr]

7. K&R

:thumbsup:

[Stop Cornyn]

8. "McCainbots will watch Murder She Wrote and go to bed at six-thirty" -- agreed

[FlyingSquirrel]

9. Tanx

Will make me feel better knowing there's a thread I can kick all nite long :-)

[dchill]

13. "a thread I can kick all nite long "

ditto :hi:

[uponit7771]

15. Don't understand why Obama didn't hit number 10 more and often

[babylonsister]

17. Because he's been trying to stay above the fray, but

it's getting more difficult. He had some comment today? about elbowing someone back if you get elbowed enough. Obama had a chance at a few digs in the last debate and chose not to take them.

He'd also get criticized if he emulates her. But I think he needs to punch back a bit myself. He can still look better than her doing so, and he's good at using humor to prove his point.

Also, the majority of Pennsylvanians thought he got attacked by Clinton, from one of those endless exit polls on tonight. So maybe maintaining isn't a bad idea.

[crispini]

18. I absolutely LOVE the point 10.

:rofl:

[FlyingSquirrel]

20. FIRST KICK: NBC calls it after 3% of results in.

:wtf:

[FlyingSquirrel]

21. Second kick: Someone posts that she "Got her 10-point victory" with only 46% counted