If Israel is nuked by Iran, the United States should NOT get involved

[Cali_Democrat]

Let the UN handle it. No more going it alone. Israel has their own nukes. Why should we have to retaliate against Iran with nukes when Israel more than capable? We should just stay out of it.

Ally Shmally. All they do is take take take and they don't give us anything but headaches and hatred from muslims. No thanks.

[rockymountaindem]

1. I'm glad to see everybody's acting so rationally

:sarcasm:

[Seen the light]

2. The very idea that Iran would nuke Israel is just so stupid...

it boggles the mind.

[walldude]

11. Considering they don't have any nukes

I'd have to agree with you.

[Texas Hill Country]

18. they will in the next 10 years, it is inevitable, and without deterrence, it is not ridiculous.

[walldude]

20. "They will in the next 10 years"... LOL

Yeah and Saddam had WMD's, the Ruskies are just waiting to drop nukes on us, the economy is going swell, the check's in the mail, blah blah blah. Even if Iran came up with a nuke in the next 10 years, they wouldn't be stupid enough to use it. Unless you believe all the government propaganda that's being spoon fed to you.

Funny but I swear I saw a report saying that Iran had stopped it's nuclear program.

[pocoloco]

3. Don't let AIPAC hear you talk like that!!

Hillary is throwing Iran under the bus ...I mean bomb to get elected.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Uh, there are plenty of people who aren't right-wing Israelis who don't want to see Israel nuked.

Far be it for me to defend Senator Clinton, but the whole "discussion" is predicated on if Iran was to attack Israel- with a nuclear weapon.

I don't think the nuclear swagger is particularly productive on Hillary's part, but these things should be put into context. If Iran was to attack Israel in such a way, it would be a VERY bad idea, and a horrific crime against humanity, and they could expect retaliation from the US. Morality aside, that's a fact, and it's going to be true no matter who is in the White House--- all the whining about AIPAC in the world isn't going to change it. Nor should it.

I don't agree with AIPAC and the Israeli right on a whole laundry list of shit, but I do believe- as most Americans do- that Israel has a right to exist.

[rinsd]

4. Thankfully the Dem candidates feel much differently

At a Tuesday news conference in the Philadelphia suburb of Conshohocken, Pennsylvania, Clinton said the question of Iran merited hypothetical discussion because a nuclear Tehran would require straightforward Cold War-style deterrence. "It's a question not of what might be on or off the table," she said.

Meanwhile, Obama said he would respond "forcefully and swiftly" to an Iranian attack against Israel or any other U.S. ally, whether conventional or nuclear.

http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSN2224332720080422?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=10112

[cbayer]

9. He also said that ALL options were on the table.

"OBAMA: Well, our first step should be to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of the Iranians. And that has to be one of our top priorities, and I will make it one of our top priorities when I'm president of the United States.

I have said I will do whatever is required to prevent the Iranians from obtaining nuclear weapons.

I believe that that includes direct talks with the Iranians, where we are laying out very clearly for them: Here are the issues that we find unacceptable, not only development of nuclear weapons, but also funding terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as their anti-Israel rhetoric and threats toward Israel.

I believe that we can offer them carrots and sticks, but we've got to directly engage and make absolutely clear to them what our posture is. Now, my belief is that they should also know that I will take no options off the table when it comes to preventing them from using nuclear weapons or obtaining nuclear weapons.

And that would include any threats directed at Israel, or any of our allies."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/Story?id=4670271&page=3

That includes nuclear options. Don't fool yourself. We don't have a peace candidate here.

[rinsd]

12. As I said to an Obama supporter in another thread

Obama is not anti-war. He is anti-stupid war and would do everything to protect this country and her allies.

[cbayer]

14. I agree with you and believe the same about Clinton. nt.

[dbonds]

5. Iran won't nuke their holy land.

But if that did happen, I think Israel is capable of handling themselves.

[guyanakoolaid]

6. Also, If Israel is nuked by Lichtenstein, the United States should NOT get involved

:eyes:

[Zachstar]

7. We are required to be involved

But not with Nukes.

[Cali_Democrat]

8. Let the UN decide

[billyoc]

19. We are most certainly NOT required to be involved in a war between Iran and Israel.

Why would you think we would be?

[Zachstar]

22. Treaty

[Cali_Democrat]

24. I wasn't aware that we had a NATO-style treaty with them

If we do it should be ripped up.

[billyoc]

26. No such treaty exists. Honestly, I wish it did, but no way. I'll be happy to be proven wrong,

but if Israel gets attacked, we're required to leave them blowing in the wind barring a U.N. peacekeeping mission.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. With all due respect, you are out of your friggin' mind.

But nobody's nuking anyone. First off, Israel is something like 20-30 miles wide outside of Tel Aviv. If Iran was nuts enough to set off a nuclear weapon there, they would kill an awful lot of Palestinians as well. Everybody in that region is practically in each other's laps.

This whole "debate" is insanity, but the fact of the matter is, no one should be encouraging ANYONE to "nuke" anyone else. I understand the concept of deterrence, but it goes without saying that an attack on Israel of that magnitude would provoke a severe response. Yes, from us. I don't care who is in the White House.

If you're waiting for a President -Democrat OR Republican- who is going to say "fuck Israel", because "they" "take take take", you're going to be waiting a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time. Don't hold your breath, Jack.

[cbayer]

13. This really should be in another forum.

Actually it should just be locked and deleted.

[DuaneBidoux]

16. Don't worry, we won't be needed. Iran will be devoid of life.

Anyone, absolutely anyone, who messes with Israel is pretty much guaranteed to get wiped off the face of the earth. Israel is quite capable of taking care of themselves, which is one reason I've always wondered why they need us so badly.

[Indenturedebtor]

23. Agreed

Original Message
Don't worry, we won't be needed. Iran will be devoid of life.
Posted by DuaneBidoux
Anyone, absolutely anyone, who messes with Israel is pretty much guaranteed to get wiped off the face of the earth. Israel is quite capable of taking care of themselves, which is one reason I've always wondered why they need us so badly.


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Agreed, and they don't. We need them to launder money to our military industrial complex, and to help prop up the dictators in the region so that we can continue to steal their oil.

[IndianaJones]

17. launching some missile strikes into Iran is not the optimal position for us to be in

On the other hand, having a radical Muslim theocracy in possession of nuclear weapons is worse.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

21. Israel can look after itself

I know

[WinkyDink]

25. Oh, the poor Muslims!