Lanny Davis sort of blames Dean for the NC debate stoppage...says he should resign.

[madfloridian]

That is if he had anything to do with it. But when pushed on Fox News, Lanny changed the subject to attacking Obama. That is, I swear, the first I heard someone blame Dean for stopping that debate.

But after the way the ABC debate turned so ugly....I would say kudos to whomever stopped that NC debate.

From TPM:

Hillary Supporter Lanny Davis: Howard Dean Should Resign If He Nixed North Carolina Debate

"Hillary backer Lanny Davis, the unofficial raging id of the Hillary campaign (or one of them, anyway), pushed the envelope pretty hard in a Fox News interview a little while ago, saying that Howard Dean should resign as DNC chair if he had anything to do with killing the North Carolina debate.

Davis said:

If Howard Dean had anything to do with this he should resign as national chairman. He has compromised himself completely.
Asked if he thought Dean did in fact have something to do with nixing the debate, Davis demurred, and pivoted off the question into a denunciation of Obama.

As I've noted here before, the tensions between Dean and Hillary's top fundraisers and surrogates has simmered behind the scenes for weeks now over Dean's inability to get the Florida and Michigan standoffs resolved. The other day, those tensions boiled over when Hillary's top donors teed off on Dean publicly for his suggestion that super-delegates should begin deciding who to support "starting now."

TPM says it is the first time a Clinton supporter has called for him to resign....but it is not.

Florida Hillary superdelegate publicly demands Dean resign...Corrine Brown.

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- Democratic Congresswoman Corrine Brown places the blame for the delegate flap squarely on DNC Chairman Howard Dean.

"I think Howard Dean should fix the problem or resign," Brown exclaims during an interview at First Coast News studios.

Brown insists that Florida's delegates be seated at the convention according to the results of the January primary.

"And after what happened in 2000 in Florida, elections is a raw nerve for people in Florida. And you should not mess with us! And you should not mistreat us in Florida," she says.

Keep up the good work, Howard Dean. When you are pissing off Lanny Davis, you must be doing something right.

[Mooney]

1. Boo fucking hoo.

I believe it was Moliere who originally said it best: "Lanny Davis can go eat a bag of dicks."

[Critters2]

3. I thought it was Voltaire, but you're probably right.

Imagine that, a Clintonista calling for Dean's resignation. I'll bet the sun'll come up in the east tomorrow, too.

[Tellurian]

33. Poor Howard.. I'll bet he hates being the DNC puppet..

for Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy, Kerry and Brazile and the Gang...

I'm sure by now, Howard realizes he's been HAD!

[tridim]

5. I love his work. nt

[Spirochete]

40. But let's face it -

You're a neo maxi zoom dweebie, what would you be doing if you weren't out making yourself a better citizen?

[Catherina]

2. I support Howard Dean. How dare these nutballs? n/t

[NightWatcher]

4. why are all the Hill-people always on Faux?

sounds like we are haiving a DLC vs DNC battle

[VenusRising]

6. That seems to be exactly what it is.

Fuck the DLC! IMNSHO

[lyonn]

17. Fox and Hillary people along with Richard M. Scaife get along

quite well. Not so much on the other cable news. What's the deal? Have the repubs joined with the DLC? So many questions,so few answers.

[4themind]

7. Just as a reminder he supported Lieberman, after he lost the democratic primary.

We may see him on these shows, spreading the poison , even after the convention, if obama wins in my view.
Oh and here's the title of one of his books according to wikipedia:
"His most recent book, which appeared in 2006, is entitled Scandal: How "Gotcha" Politics Is Destroying America."

[Cassandra]

8. Told ya.

I have trouble believing the DLC is going to give up and go quietly.

[SoCalDem]

9. Will someone please flush that turd...

and his little toilet-bowl buddy, Carville too:)

[babylonsister]

10. Lanny should go pack sand. I'm glad there will be no more debates.

There's no reason to have any more.

[Jane Austin]

11. Me?

I think Lanny Davis should resign - from whatever position he is yakking again today.

[JBoy]

12. Dean is the next one they will try to throw under the bus.

[Mooney]

15. They've been trying to do that since 2003.

[gateley]

13. Obama agreed to the original NC debate date, I think --

Clinton didn't confirm.

They will both be at the Jefferson Jackson dinner here, though.

[TheDonkey]

14. No more sideshow nonsense. Time for Obama to prepare for McCain

Hillary is the new Ron Paul.

[XemaSab]

51. Hillary is the new Duncan Hunter

:P

[book_worm]

16. Lanny Davis is an idiot.

[madfloridian]

18. Here's the video....what a bastard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__jWmECj05E

[mmonk]

19. Clinton turned down the first debate date proposal here,

Obama the second. Clinton supporters and surrogates conveniently forget that when discussing the issue.

[brooklyndemo]

20. We need Dean

We shouldn't just ask Dean to resign. Let's not forget he helped us sweep the 2006 congressional elections. He's very good at what he does.

[David Zephyr]

21. Bill Clinton tried to sabotage Dean from ever becoming Chair.

James Carville and Harold Ford, Jr and nearly every operative the Clintons have called for Dean to resign.

The fact that a dirt bag, hit man like Lanny Davis, now is the one to make the call for the Clintons is a joke.

The Clintons are despicable.

[grizmaster]

22. Dean was a complete failure on getting Florida and Michigan

votes counted. Shame he started off so strong and now we'll likely lose two critical states because of his failure.

[madfloridian]

25. That is not true. He stood behind the rules committee.

If Floridians want to pout and stamp their feet, let them do it.

They are not in control of the party, and neither is Hillary.

[grizmaster]

38. Sorry, I believe in standing behind the voters

If they weren't happy with the way the first vote went they should have had new primaries.

[madfloridian]

41. Dean told them to revote. Do your research. The states refused.

They said NO NO NO to revotes....I have my own idea why. Maybe cause Obama would win the next time around.

Dean said revote...the states said NO No No

[Donna Zen]

23. A Lanny story

One night Ted Koppel had a town-hall meeting on the Discovery Channel. Things were moving along and the talk turned to what is happening with our Constitutional rights. The audience and other Democratic members of the panel were on top of the issue. Up pops Lanny Davis to give a long winded speech about how george bush and the republicans love...love...love the constitution and would never do anything to curb our rights.

I gotta say my mouth flopped down to my shoes. It was no surprise to learn that Lanny Davis is the Dem. representative to some trumped-up committee that advises that nut-case in the WHouse.

Yes, Lanny is poison. Gov. Dean should wear Lanny's hatred as a badge of honor.

[madfloridian]

26. Unbelievable.

Do you remember how long ago?

[Donna Zen]

27. Probably mid 2005

Lanny is a true snake. Before he crawled out from under his rock to help Lieberman. Ya know, Lanny is part of the Clinton machine, and thus, when he showed up for Joe...all bets are off.

BTW, I've written about this to you before Madfloridian. As a Dem. state committee member (not FL) I'm pissed with how skewed the conversation about the primaries has become. If this is now about popular votes...well hell, nobody told my committee.

[madfloridian]

29. Well, it is about popular votes or electoral votes....take your pick.

The Clinton campaign changed the rules for picking the nominee. Forget delegates.

[Donna Zen]

30. I'm aware the rules have changed

It just would have been nice to know before my state party went ahead and spent all that money. I'm serious. I'm pissed.

Our last meeting was too busy to bring this up, but I will. My state is now not being represented since popular will be the deciding factor.

[madfloridian]

31. I was kidding. It is still about delegates except in the Clinton campaign

It is just spin they are doing for donors. It is still just delegates. Of course the way her campaign is spinning it you would never guess it.

Sorry, I was being sarcastic...

[Donna Zen]

35. But...but...but...

They are using that spin to lure the Super Delegates. I'm pissed. What do our votes represent? Garbage? If we had known then we could have been represented with a primary....for free.

[madfloridian]

36. Yep, exactly.

That is why I have been posting so much about this. They are trying to make the whole DNC rule process invalid. They are pushing for popular vote or electoral vote. Wasserman Schultz is the worst, and Nelson is next. Here is a write up and video of her actually saying that to John Harwood on a CNBC interview.

They are shameless about it. It is like rules don't matter, they are out to smear the DNC and Dean.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2013

[Donna Zen]

39. I've been at it too

Actually, my committee backed off challenging a rule we didn't like because we didn't want to risk our delegates getting seating.

I'm very angry about this.

[charlie]

45. Lanny Davis has always been inartful

about his untempered zeal for protecting Republicans. Most of his DLC brethren take the "on the one hand, on the other" tack to at least make it look like they're merely weighing issues. Not Lanny.

When I asked some prominent Democrats how the party should conduct oversight if it wins in November, I was surpised by the number who took this view. Lanny Davis told me "I don't care about digging up whether Bush lied or not, or whether they manipulated evidence or not. That's just playing gotcha."

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_05/008836.php

[Eric J in MN]

50. Lanny Davis eventually quit the Bush civil liberties commission...

...after he wanted to criticize the Bush Admin for holding people without charge on dubious "material witness" grounds, and the other members of the commission wouldn't let that go into the report.

[XemaSab]

52. I have the feeling the Good Doctor wears a lot of peoples' hatred

as a badge of honor. :P

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

24. Lanny stick this up your --- 29 North Carolina Legislators Endorse Barack Obama

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5622465

[madrchsod]

28. lanny the loser?

good luck getting rid of dean

[Doctor_J]

32. Lanny Davis of Fox News?

what a surprise!

God you people who quote Fox make me wish a McCain presidency on you.

[madfloridian]

34. Lanny Davis of the Clinton campaign....a supporter and advocate.

Lanny Davis, Democrat.

[Doctor_J]

37. Read post 23 - i think you mean Lanny Davis - Bushie

[madfloridian]

43. You are probably right.

:hi:

[Eric J in MN]

46. This isn't a post in support of Lanny Davis or Fox News.

The OP is a big Howard Dean supporter.

[Carolina]

42. Has been Lanny Davis should shut the fuck up!

[Eric J in MN]

44. If Lanny Davis supported Joe Lieberman over Ned Lamont...

...in that general election, then he should stop being a pundit.

Wait, he did.

[Califooyah Operative]

47. bring it on. nt

[AtomicKitten]

48. Trying to change the rules in the middle of the game isn't enough for the Clintons.

Now they are trying to change the players.

Absolutely breathtaking.

I hope the superdelegates put their heavy hammer down and stop this insanity, sooner than later.

[RBInMaine]

49. Goes to show what Team-Hillary is really all about. Lanny Davis is an IDIOT !