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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:21 PM
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Big difference between Ohio and PA.. white men and new voters..according to CNN
The white male vote is much closer in this election, only 7 point difference whereas in Ohio it was 19 points.

And new voters are overwhelmingly going for Obama...even moreso than Ohio
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:22 PM
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He lost Ohio by 9 points.
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 07:23 PM by Drunken Irishman
If this is the case, the results will be really close. Possibly even 1-2 points close.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:22 PM
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1. Gee, I guess "Operation Chaos" FAILED in that event ...
All those "new voters" were supposed to be Dittoheads changing their
party affiliation to vote for HRC ...
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:25 PM
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3. Rethugs went to Obama 55-40, as they do in almost every state
They know Obama will lose the GE.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:26 PM
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5. You've been saying this in every thread. Where is your proof? n/t
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:28 PM
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6. The exit poll
People who were registered rethugs three months ago voted for Obama 55-40 (page 5 or 6). The only reason they are Dems now is because this is a closed primary. They will be rethugs and voting for McSame in November. We are suckers and being played up and down, from the corporate MSM down to these rethug ringers for Obama.
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:33 PM
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10. So are you saying the repubs that I know personally that voted for Obama are going to vote for
McLame in the GE? LOL...not..they are Obama supporters through and through, just like me. They are sticking.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:40 PM
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15. Name one GE poll that has Obama carrying more rethugs than Clinton
It is always within the margin of error.
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:46 PM
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18. I'm telling you the repubs I know are sincere Obama converts..period.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:39 PM
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13. I think you are misreading the data
People do not fit into the nice two or three choices in an exit poll.

Some of those people are independents that previously voted repub but will vote democratic in this race.
Some of those people are the trouble-making repubs that you described.
Some of those people voted for Clinton because they think McCain can beat her.
Some of those people voted for Obama because they think McCain can beat him.

At any rate, you provided no evidence beside your own opinion.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:41 PM
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16. Obama gets 8% of rethugs in the GE. "Obamacons" are another fairy tale
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 07:42 PM by jackson_dem
Clinton gets 5% in the Pew poll (within the margin of error). Gore got 8, Kerry 6, Bush got 11% of Dems both times and Clinton got 13% of rethugs in 96'. Obamacons are a fairy tale. They aren't there in the GE.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:50 PM
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19. Where are you getting this data? n/t
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:54 PM
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20. A much cited Pew poll from about 2 months ago
Look at state polls too. You won't find "Obamacons".
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:09 PM
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23. Have you ever heard the sports term "jumping on the bandwagon"?
Most people don't follow politics closely. They are simply moving to the winning side.


The new voters will vote for Obama.
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:29 PM
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7. If you repeat something enough, truthiness takes hold and magically facts spring into being. (nt)
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:39 PM
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12. It is in the exit poll but Obamites are the same people who think rethugs voted for Hill in Texas
When in the real world they went for Obama 53-46.
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KevinHarring Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:39 PM
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14. FYI
Actually I have traditionally registered republican in the past. This year I voted for Obama, and I will vote for him again in the general.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:02 PM
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22. Welcome to DU!
You sure picked a great time to come aboard!

Hold onto your hat, it's gonna get mighty bumpy.

GOBAMA!
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:24 PM
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2. also, Penn is a blue state, Ohio a red state
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:25 PM
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4. That is misleading. Kerry won PA by 2 points. That isn't blue and only 4 points more Dem than OH
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:38 PM
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11. Yeah, and besides, the Ohio election was stolen
in 2004, so you can't call us red.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:44 PM
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17. Good point!

Indeed it was.

I hope you got rid of those Diebold machines by now.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:31 PM
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8. with all these new voters
That mainly Obama has helped to register, PA will be a blue state.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:32 PM
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9. No NAFTA IMHO
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:59 PM
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21. Don't worry. Pat Buchanan is finding a way to spin this into a BAD thing!
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 07:59 PM by jenmito
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