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Tue Apr-22-08 07:54 PM
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*********OFFICIAL OBAMA SUPPORTER'S PA PRIMARY THREAD #2******* |
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Come in and lets talk about the results and what to look at moving forward Give me some recs for this.
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:55 PM
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:55 PM
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2. Under 10, Under 10, Under 10.!....................... |
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:56 PM
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We have to wait until ALL the votes are counted to get the final spread, right?
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:56 PM
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4. The margins keep closing. 53% 47% 3%reporting |
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:56 PM
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5. Just because it was called 45 minutes in, doesnt mean it will be double digits. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:56 PM
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6. that Clinton: 53%; Obama 47% is the key. If the numbers stay around there |
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this is a ho-hum night for Hillary.
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:57 PM
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7. I'm in. Anything under a 15% loss is a victory for Obama in PA. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:57 PM
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10. That wont do it. We need single digits. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:58 PM
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15. I think we'll get single digits, but honestly, anything under 15% is awesome for him. |
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Obama came from way behind in PA.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:00 PM
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18. I agree, 10% is a magic barrier |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:04 PM
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27. pundits are saying money and SD's will be hard to come by if not |
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:57 PM
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:57 PM
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9. My stomach is just in knots tonight |
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We really need to keep this under 10pts so that we can start putting this behind us.
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:58 PM
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11. MSNBC: Clinton arm-twisting 6 super delegates who said they'd watch PA. |
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Dunno if anyone else is watching this, FWIW.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:04 PM
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26. Twisting arms in order to apply the tourniquet. They're gonna bleed SDs starting now. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:38 PM
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86. Yep...watching this while I munch on my Nutrisystem dinner... |
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....I just hope the SDs are not as stupid as the Clinton Campaign hopes they are.
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:58 PM
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12. It says Clinton 56%, Obama 44% |
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(and it's changing momentarily) --
Is THAT what determines the points? i.e. - would this indicate a 12 POINT spread?
Thanks!
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:04 PM
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:26 PM
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73. Thank you. I was embarrassed to ask, but I knew |
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a kind soul such as yourself would gently let me know. :pals:
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Wed Apr-23-08 05:10 PM
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187. LOL, I know what you mean |
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I am usually not embarrassed to ask any question, but it gets hard sometimes when you don't receive an answer. :):hi: :pals:
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:58 PM
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13. 54 out of 9,211 districts reporting (.59%) |
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:58 PM
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14. Fineman on MSNBC telling us that Team Clinton is already on the phones to super delegates |
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as if this win changes the race in some major way...
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:59 PM
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16. Philadelphia is so huge |
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in overall voters, and is going to be so big for Obama, that it semes like when Hillary votes come from other parts of the state that would make her margin expand, a Philly vote count will come in and negate it.
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Tue Apr-22-08 07:59 PM
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17. sigh. oh well, i'm sure i will meet some nice people |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:00 PM
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19. Gah! Now Gregory and Buchanan |
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23. Keith shut them the fuck up! |
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"Now moving from the Clinton telethon"
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:03 PM
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It an't gonna do it for Hillary.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:04 PM
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I hope that sticks but it will move back and forth.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:07 PM
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now to 8% ...... the magic number is 10
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:11 PM
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:18 PM
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60. 6% margin right now n/t |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:22 PM
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67. Still at 6% on 14% jump in the vote n/t |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:24 PM
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70. still at 6% on 15% jump in the vote n/t |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:28 PM
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74. still at 6% on 16% of the vote in n/t |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:28 PM
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75. still at 6% on 18% of the vote in n/t |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:32 PM
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76. still at 6% on 19% of the vote in n/t |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:34 PM
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79. still at 6% on 20% of the vote in ...... Remember I said 10% she needs..look below |
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Is this thread helping anyone? should I continue it?
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:38 PM
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85. 6% with 22% reported in.... this is good!!! n/t |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:51 PM
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98. 8% with 37% reported in.... this is still good!!! .... now listen up!! |
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it will not mean shit for Hillary, trust me......... I haven't been wrong!
The supers said ANYTHING LESS THAN 10% and they move to Obama.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:55 PM
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105. If it has to be high single digits PLEASE let it be 7 so I can watch those on MSNBC |
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try to back out of their anything more than 7 would be a disaster for Barack. Well, my bad they said it would be a fundamental problem for him.
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Tue Apr-22-08 09:01 PM
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111. Pittsburgh will come in late |
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113. Uh-oh...that is a Clinton stronghold, right? nt |
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121. Nope.... I read it has changed and now Obama |
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128. Hmm...I guess we will just have to wait and see. I'm keeping one eye on the pop vote totals too. |
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I hope she is not able to run those numbers up so she won't have the "I have the most popular votes" arguement.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:03 PM
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22. MSNBC/NBC has called this too quickly for me |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:05 PM
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29. No they havent. They are basing this off of NE PA. Obama needed to do a little better to win. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:04 PM
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25. Gregory is a terrible terrible host |
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He's like an hysteric.
And I STILL want this fucking race to be over. Now.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:05 PM
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31. He truly is abysmal. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have bowTie Tucker. n/t |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:06 PM
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34. No worries these guys want it go further |
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It is our party and it won't go longer without the 10% or greater number in PA.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:04 PM
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28. If he loses by less than 10, Obama has done a good job. |
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I was a little disappointed in the exit polling data from Pittsburgh. I thought he'd do better there.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:05 PM
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30. this makes me a stronger supporter |
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than I was before. We will win!
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:05 PM
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32. Rachel Maddow: He sent her into debt and still has $40mn. n/t |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:05 PM
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Never thought that UTAH would be an easier state to win than PA
PA's gotta evolve. I hope it does.
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I don't listen to these talking heads.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:07 PM
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36. Philly Numbers look Good - 55-45 Obama ahead 25% reporting |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:13 PM
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44. the exit polls had him up much more than that |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:10 PM
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Telling us how important PA is because it's blue. Then talks about Florida and Kentucky. :crazy:
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:11 PM
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42. I switched to CNN for that. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:14 PM
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50. I've switched permanently to CNN - Joe and Pat are too creepy |
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I can't watch the for too long.
I like John King's map and explanations, too.
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55. I mute it... Harold Ford and JOe are on. |
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God I hate watching TV news.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:20 PM
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64. I can't even watch Joe and Mika in the a.m. any more |
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how are his ratings? Do you know?
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:13 PM
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43. He has to do his ra ra ra stuff |
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Don't worry folks the margins won't be there for Hillary.
10% or less is a super-delegate flood.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:13 PM
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45. I heard McAuliffe on the Ed Schultz show today |
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I've learned that whenever he says "let's be clear", he's about to be anything BUT clear.
Ed: "So, if Hillary win PA by 10%, she's going to need to win each of the remaining states by (I think he said) 68%. Will she be able to do that?"
Terry: "Let's be clear". He then followed this with at least 100 words that were nowhere near a "yes" or a "no" answer.
I saw him do the same "let's be clear" lead in on CNN the other day.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:14 PM
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:13 PM
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46. boy, joe really wants IN that democratic cloakroom. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:14 PM
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48. Well it doesn't look like we can hope for 5 or less. |
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So I guess 10 or less, even though now this means Clinton goes on. She'll spin this as a win.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:15 PM
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51. I still dont see why we cant hope for 5 or less. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:17 PM
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57. I don't know, because they called it so early? |
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You'd think if the exit polls were reporting 5 or less, they'd wait until more raw numbers were in before calling it.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:25 PM
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71. Here is the issue. I think Obama will eventually pull away in Philly, but 40% is already in |
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Though I think the heavy Obama areas havent come in yet.
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52. CNN: 55-45, with 10% reporting. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:16 PM
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53. how to look at tonights results |
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The total numbers, and the philly numbers. I noted that the total changed to 10%, but in that update their were no new philly numbers. so that skewed it towards hillary on that update.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:16 PM
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54. Could Harold Ford be more obnoxious |
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oh yeah, Joe is more obnoxious
But really.
Ack.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:17 PM
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59. He tries so hard to be "objective" hes really annoying |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:16 PM
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56. This Guy On CNN With The Map Is Comparing Apples And Oranges...... |
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he's showing the counties Hillary is winning tonight and comparing that against the GE's of Bush/Kerry and Bush/Gore.
To be fair wouldn't he have to compare the results in the Kerry's and Gore's primaries in the state instead of the GE.
Again - I don't think the argument that Barack can't win the big states is valid. This is a primary amongst two Dems and not an election between a Dem and a Repug.
They are foisting a bogus argument when they say he won't be able to win the big states in a GE. Why doesn't somebody call them on this?
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:19 PM
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61. Thats why the SDs arent buying it. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:20 PM
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63. Well, keep us informed...... Clinton News Network |
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we need the info on the spin.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:20 PM
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62. 53-47 Clinton with 12 % in |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:21 PM
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If that's what it is with 100%, I'll be happy. |
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65. At 7% reporting, they started calling it for Clinton? I suppose there's a method to the madness. |
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Granted, I expected her to win in PA. However, if it's so close, why did they start calling it for her with less than 10% of precincts reporting?
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68. That's why I'm wondering if it really is all that close. |
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Generally when they call it this early, the exit poll data shows one candidate leading large enough where they can risk it. So that means the exit polling data probably had Clinton winning by more than 5 points, maybe even 10.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:22 PM
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66. FYI - The Atlantic: How they were able to call it so early |
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http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/04/heres_how_the_nets_were_able_t.phpThey're merging the exit poll data with quick tallies from specially selected model precincts across the state. Clinton in those precincts is outperforming her margin in the exit polls.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:23 PM
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69. Well that doesn't look good for Obama, then. |
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He may very well lose by double digits.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:35 PM
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80. Gosh will you please stop being so negative. I know you are nervous |
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I know you are worried but don't view everything that comes in in the most negative light. Please...
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:36 PM
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81. I try, but I'm bummed. |
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Bummed because it appears the media is giving in to Clinton's talking point.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:37 PM
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84. Of course they are. What else is new? LOL Keep your head up |
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Obama will be standing tall after this flashing that beautiful smile at us.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:43 PM
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88. Popular vote shows her with only at net of 20-something thousand rt now |
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I hope he keeps her popular vote gain down too. After this state it will be hard for her to make that up. I think Indiana will be fairly close. Then Obama is expected to blow-out a few states. She is expected to blow-out a few so they will essentially cancel each other out. Gosh I hope the margins stay close. I guess we will just have to wait and see. :)
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:42 PM
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87. Turn the sound off, watch the numbers and listen to some music |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:33 PM
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77. Pat Buchanan just told Rachel Maddow to "hold the Marxist dialectic." |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:37 PM
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82. She has his number on his weak logical arguments |
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A dialectic is not Marxism but a recognized branch of logic.
I have the sound off, listening to music.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:44 PM
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90. Pat dreams nightly of going back to fight the Cold War. |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:34 PM
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78. RING THE BELL, KEITH! |
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:43 PM
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89. CNN Exit Polls shift to 5-6 point victory. |
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91. If this holds true will MSNBC turn on Hillary since they said she needed at least 7 pts? |
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Of course I already know the answer to that. LOL
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They'll say she battled back, fought off Obama and proved she can carry on.
No one forgets he erased a 20 point lead in a matter of a week.
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92. Wow, Exit Polls really screwed up in Philly. CNN has him winning there 62-38 |
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And the Philly suburbs 57-43. Thats a big change from what originally was reported.
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Tue Apr-22-08 08:46 PM
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94. CNN: 54-46, with 33% reporting. |
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Philly precincts 63% reported.
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96. But those areas outside Philly have not. MSNBC claimed this morning |
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97. Hes not doing well right now in Bucks Couny and is down in Delaware. |
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100. Hillary is going to win by 10%. |
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101. I'm not sure. It seems like he is doing better than Ohio too me and that was 10 pts. |
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Could be wrong though. There is a lot more to report.
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102. The exit polls shifted on us |
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104. It feels just like Ohio for me. |
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Exit polling data is a lot closer than the actual vote. :(
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125. dude you're a good guy and all but you need to chill out abit. Reading your posts are depressing. |
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103. Nope.... Are you following my thread in this? |
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She has 8% that is not gonna do it.....
It makes the math even worse for her..... don't listen to these assholes.
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109. Maybe he can keep her popular vote net gain to 150,000..that |
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107. We Won thanks...... anything less than 10%.. and she is broke... |
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110. I will happily take less than 10% in a state tailor made for her.. nt |
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106. Do any of you think Sebilius or McCaskill would be a good VP for Obama? |
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he may need a shot in the arm with female voters, especially older females and I think these two would be excellent and have proven to be strong surrogates.
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108. No to the second, yes to the first |
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McCaskill is even less experienced. If any women, Id like to see Barbara Boxer, though Sebelius is a good candidate as well.
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I like Claire but I think the other poster is right when they say that he needs someone with more experience to strengthen the ticket.
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118. No....... Howard Dean |
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I would love Boxer, but hate to lose the seat and my close relationship with her.
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119. Yeap, just thought of the KS governer...she's smart, that's what Washington needs |
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114. CNN: Still 54-46, with 48% reporting |
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What's the story with Chester and Montgomery, outside of Philly? They're 0% reported.
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115. The votes in big counties haven't been counted yet, some reporting at 0 and 6% |
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Limbaugh's Operation Chaos candidate wins...a sad day for the Dem party |
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116. What are the projections for the remaining 50%? |
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Pro Obama areas? Pro Hillary areas?
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117. What the hell happened to the media's watermarks they talked |
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about constantly. Instead of saying, Hey Hillary you suck - they are putting it ALL on Obama !
Chuck Todd said 7 was the magic number (like he's God, right?)
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120. Like usual, they changed it on us. |
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122. Did he just say that again? nt |
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127. The supers said 10 today...... I have a inside track |
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123. Breaking--Hillary takes the "deerhunter" vote |
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124. Southeastern PA still has a large number of unreported votes |
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Obama is supposed to do well there. Western PA has a large % of vote in. I think the numbers will get closer.
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129. So far, he is losing all the counties, including Montgomery |
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126. Obama down 8 in Montgomery County with 13% in...WTF? |
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130. Obama up to 64% in Philly...thats an improvement. |
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131. I was wondering the same thing. |
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I think people are a bit bummed he didn't do better. What's the state wide total?
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133. obama needs to change strategy |
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i dont understand why he doesnt make commercials saying fatbag supports hillary.
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Tue Apr-22-08 09:22 PM
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136. Dinner and a neighbor's dog problem |
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8% is not gonna do it, no matter what anyone says on TV or here.
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132. When is this shit going to be over... |
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139. is chester co an obama county? |
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141. Should be, but so far the philly burbs are with Clinton |
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I expect that would change though.
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its still possible to keep the margin under 10
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134. Let's not forget Hillary takes the old, racist vote as well, but |
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Obama is still going to be our candidate, thank you.
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135. Hillary has already asked for the cash. |
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137. I turned on John Oliver on Comedy Central. |
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138. Jesus - She just stole Obama's PA Speech! |
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140. Obama didnt speak yet did he? |
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144. His Philly speech and Perfect Union |
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145. Wow, Im watching John Oliver instead. |
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I cant watch the cable news anymore.
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143. Delaware and Centre County flipped to Obama |
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146. The lead will probably stay at 8 or go down to 6 |
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Depending on the vote total from Chester county
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151. why no reports from chester? |
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147. "the low road to victory" from a clinton endorsed newspaper |
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Tue Apr-22-08 09:38 PM
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148. So someone tell me how it looks. |
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Is it still 8 points? I have the TV off and am looking at other stuff online.
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150. Jeez, its 55-45 again. |
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I thought it would be a closer win for her.
10+ is an Obama loss and no amount of spinning will do anything.
Cue the next person to say I'm too negative, but it's true. Sure he has the nomination locked up, but he didn't put her away tonight and now we have to sit through another match of primaries.
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155. Well chester coming in could hopefully change that, and Montgomery is still mostly otu. |
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156. If he can pull it within 9, I'm ok with that. |
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157. Looks like it will either be 8 or 10 |
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159. Why do you think 8 or 10 instead of 9. LOL nt |
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169. Yep. It looks like this is going to the convention. McCain's the big winner. |
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152. kind of disappointed with the results, but it's not over yet. |
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I wish they both would gang up on McInsane. Very good Obama.
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154. Chester coming in, 55-45 Obama with 10 percent in. |
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161. Montgomery's been turning too.... |
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158. 84% in, delegate gain is Clinton +3??? Ouch! |
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162. Darn but she is approaching 200,000 with net popular vote |
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I don't want her dipping into his popular vote like that. Ugh! At least it is not the 250,000 that Chuck Todd said she might get. At least not yet!
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163. Did Obama speak yet? nt |
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160. Hey Bucks Co... wtf? |
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I don't know much about Bucks County, but I am a bit surprised at the margin there. Of all the Philly suburbs the only one I thought might go to Clinton was Delaware. Guess I was wrong.
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167. Sweet--Bucks Co. just turned into a 4-3 delegate break for Clinton, not 5-2 |
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168. But why is it going so much for Clinton? |
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175. Fuckin a' Her lead is 54.8-45.2 |
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164. I don't know about all of you but I feel so much better |
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with PA pretty much behind us. I know we still have to wait to see officially how far apart they will be. However, now she no longer has a big advantage in a large state. She is not going to win North Carolina. I think Barack will surprise people and come in relatively close in Indiana. Also, now we don't have to hear the media steadily hang PA over our heads. I still hope it narrows to 9 instead of 10. But 10 is definately better than the 20 pts that he was down.
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165. Its currently 54.9-45.1 |
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166. I'm right there with you.... |
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172. 54.7% for those still up..... |
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170. She might stretch this to 11% with Bucks, Lehigh and Montgomery. |
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171. Nah, her leads came early in vote reporting. Her edge is slowly incrementally fading. |
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174. montgomery and chester only remaining areas with significant votes to count. |
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178. now just chester to go.... |
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173. Edit: And now the lead has grown again. |
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176. for anyone who missed my post, let's keep in mind that according to CNN Exit Poll Clinton got about |
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a 20,000 vote edge from people who said they WOULD NOT vote for her in the Fall. That's about 1.7% of her votes from spoilers/people who got confused.
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177. I'm going to go back over the exit polls since March 4 and see where else she got margins like this. |
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179. Anyone else notice that Obama got about 14,000 new donors today? |
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I can live with that :toast:
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180. Clinton raised 2.5 million since PA was called. |
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181. touche... I'll see your $2.5 million and raise you this, Obama-- 1,000 NEW donors in the last 45 min |
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182. this race isnt about money. I think PA, OH, and TX have proved that. |
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183. Alright good night. Thanks for keeping me company... final seems to be 54.7/45.3 |
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I call that a great night :)
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185. For anybody who wants to watch the remaining votes come in, here are some good sites |
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