I will ask again: What is Hillary's plan for winning 90% of the black vote with a high turnout?

[bluestateguy]

Hillary supporters have for months harped on Barack Obama's troubles with white working class voters as evidence that he is somehow unelectable. It's certainly fair to be concerned about this issue, and once he is nominated, I believe that he needs to center his campaign on economic issues and at least achieving parity with the Republicans among these voters.

But let's say, Hillary supporters, that the party, for whatever reason, decides to give the nomination to her. Early in this process blacks were solidly behind her, but her black support collapsed nationwide during the South Carolina campaign after a series of arrogant and clumsy remarks by her, her husband and their supporters. We can debate whether or not that is a fair characterization, but the fact is that black voters have rejected Hillary Clinton since South Carolina. She claims that she is the better, more electable nominee. I must then ask what is her plan for winning 90% of the black vote AND generating a high turnout of black voters. Democrats do not win elections when these two things do not happen.

[saigon68]

1. a series of arrogant and clumsy remarks by her, her husband and their supporters

Yikes

[BayouBengal07]

2. As much of an Obama supporter as I am

I have to admit that I think the black vote would still come out and vote for Clinton as the Democratic nominee. That's basically the same argument as Clinton winning the "big states;" as if Obama won't carry California in the GE.

Or they could stay home for all I know. This would be a historic, genuine chance at a black president, so who knows if it suddenly all fell apart.

[ScarletSniper]

6. If Obama leads as he is now..and the SDs give it to Hillary you can bet black voters will stay home

in large numbers. Shit, based on conversations I've had, I can guarantee it.

I just saw on MSNBC 29% of new voters said if Hillary is the nominee they would not vote for her...Yikes.

[oviedodem]

12. She will win the black vote BUT their turnout will be very low overall

and if she gets the nod behind in SD's and popular; we won't show up, thats true.

[jwirr]

13. I think this will also be true of young voters in general. They will see

this as rejection and drop out. I also think we need to remember that some of these voters who have come out for Hillary since Texas are repugs causing trouble and they will not support her in the general.

[WillyToad]

30. Suuuuuuure they will

Because you say so...

I am curious how 71% support from new voters brings on a 'yikes?'

[Skwmom]

28. I think you are wrong that the black vote will come out for Clinton.

The Republicans have been telling black voters that the Democratic Party has taken them for GRANTED. The Clintons will lose the solid block of black voters for a generation.

[VeraAgnes]

3. Obama will need to throw his weight

and influence for the Democratic Nominee, Hillary Clinton. That's how. He must support her then.

[Rockholm]

4. In general, blacks don't vote and that is a problem.

[ScarletSniper]

8. huh, "blacks don't vote?" explain

[Rockholm]

23. Look at Boston for example.....

The white neighborhoods vote in every election. As as result, they get services that the black neighborhoods don't. Clean streets, working street lights, snow plowing, economic boots here and there. Ask anyone who lives in Boston (or former Bostonians who are in the suburbs) if this is true. West Roxbury (white) gets a hell of alot more that Mattapan (black). Add that with South Boston, Hyde Park and Charlestown as the heavy white voting neighborhoods.
I am sure it is the same in Philadelphia, DC, Chicago, and every other major city.
Oh, and before I am called a racist, I am not. I am just pointing out an observation.
No matter who the nominee is, I hope that ALL Democrats vote for the Democrat in November.

[crispini]

24. That is such buillshit.

Instead of proving your case by posting statistics to racial turnout by neighborhood you cite CITY SERVICES in these neighborhoods? Did it ever occur to you that maybe THE CITY is racist?

[WillyToad]

31. The whole city of Boston is 'racist?'

OMFG

[JoFerret]

5. Who has their interests at heart - Clinton or McCain?

.

[ScarletSniper]

9. Neither. Just my opinion of course...

[JoFerret]

14. Ah yes - the GOP support for key issues of prime concern

to black voters is well known.

(What nonsense)

[ecstatic]

17. Clinton and the dems can forget about black support

if the SuperDs overturns the results. Count on it. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.

[smalll]

7. The O-man becomes VP. And if Hillary could somehow take the top spot, he WOULD take the 2nd spot --

when it came down to it, he would. The Vice-Presidency is as useful to him as it would be useless to her: it would give him 8 years of experience; it would just take away 8 more years from her. She can't win at 68 if she can't win at 60, not with the way sexism and ageism are so strong out there, especially when they intersect with each other (there's no greater cultural sin than being an old woman it looks like.)

[ScarletSniper]

10. You guys don't understand blacks will revolt so would the youth..I'm telling you it won't be pretty

the dems would lose..

[JoFerret]

15. Gosh!

How frightful!

[ecstatic]

18. Your girl is toast either way

[JoFerret]

19. And

Your boy done good.

Such clever children.

[ScarletSniper]

20. Call it what you want..but its reality sweets.

[JoFerret]

32. And that's a good thing?

Or a wished for thing?

[eilen]

27. VP in a Clinton administration

is a losing proposition. Just ask Al.

[Generator]

11. Let's hope Bill still plays a mean saxophone!

[Justitia]

16. Per tonight, her demographic is Older, Uneducated, White Women

Black people don't really figure into that.

Check out the threads on "Matron Power"

[oviedodem]

21. THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TO BEAT MCCAIN!! You have no idea how much

republicans hate the Clintons.

[OzarkDem]

26. Sexist

Her demographic includes women of all education levels.

Do we hear the MSM referring to Obama supporters as uneducated African Americans?

[anamandujano]

22. That sounds kind of racist.

[mmonk]

25. It won't happen, plain and simple.

Where we go from there in such a scenario will have to be a congress with backbone for the next four years.

[Rose Siding]

29. I hesitate to suggest it because it would be such an obvious pander, but...

especially with her recent military strong-arm talk, perhaps she's plotting a veep spot for Colin Powell. Or even Rice.

After all, it'll be the same old DC gang, with Gramps Greespan on her econ board, and Terry Mac stammering his way through her political spin, and incessant media coverage of Bill gaffe after Bill gaffe.

I think she'd do it if she thought she needed it to win. I think she'd do anything.

[book_worm]

33. She'll ask DLC chair Harold Ford to be her running mate.