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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:10 PM
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Brit Hume let slip, "exit polls are showing Clinton by 6 [in PA], but we think she might do better."
Okay, I have two problems with this:

1. Why would Faux News think that Hillary will do <b>better</b> than their exit polls? What evidence is better than exit polls?

2. If the exit polls were showing a six point Hillary lead, why the hell is she winning by ten?

Discuss.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:12 PM
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1. You already know the answer...........Diebold.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:15 PM
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5. It does make ya wonder, doesn't it? nt
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:13 PM
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2. Here's an interesting thread .....
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:13 PM
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3. dupe
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 10:14 PM by tritsofme
nt
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:14 PM
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4. Cuz they is STEALING the votez!
If my favorite candidate doesn't win it is because of voter fraud!1
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:15 PM
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6. I believe you meant
Because they're stealing the votes!

You're welcome.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:17 PM
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7. Clinton significantly outperformed the exit polls in Ohio
They felt thatmaybe the same would happen in PA.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:28 PM
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10. And why have exit polls -- which were always considered a check on official results --
not meant shit since Kerry was way ahead in the exit polls and then "lost" to Bush?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:36 PM
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19. exit polls "always considered a check on official results"? Link?
I don't think so. They were considered a way for news organizations to try to scoop one another.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:21 PM
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21. It's what the US gov't used to contest the election fraud in Georgia.
The Georgians overthrew the "elected" President based on the exit poll.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:20 PM
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8. They needed her to win by 10 or the Supers might have stepped in and ended it this week.
Now it gets to keep going with both parties spending insane amounts of money on advertising and the "pundits" get to keep blabbing away for at least a couple of more weeks.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:22 PM
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9. We really don't understand what goes on with w apparent vote rigging that support the STATUS QUO
ALLWAYS
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:28 PM
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11. Wherever she has the governor and the state machinery in her pocket, she
wins. Figure it out.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:29 PM
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12. Because Obama does better in exit polls than in reality.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:31 PM
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14. Wow...Putin has work for you....n/t
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:30 PM
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13. because hillary is their other repub candidate.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:33 PM
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15. Exit polls mean NOTHING
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 10:35 PM by tyedyeto
Don't DUers realize that by now? All exit polls will ALWAYS match the end result, no matter what the polls were at any given time.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:34 PM
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16. NRO had Obama up 52% to 47% in the "unweighted" exit polls...
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 10:37 PM by Junkdrawer
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:35 PM
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17. because exit polls aren't necessarily accurate
They've consistently showed a larger margin for Obama than he actually gets. People lie.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:36 PM
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18. Its a sample based on imperfect information. nt
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:29 PM
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22. But this sampling is used for all kinds of important, life-affecting decisions--
drug testing, epidemiology, crop testing, pesticides, life expectancy, etc.

It's not that hard: you sample every tenth voter. Then you calculate the percentage of the voters in your area to the percentage in other areas.

It's the most accurate check of the official results except for a paper-verified recount.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:33 PM
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23. They don't sample
every precinct, they don't know what the turnout will be. Its a useful measurement, it is not an audit and should not be used to question official results in my opinion.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:40 PM
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20. I think it was a theft, but if Obama says nothing, it stands...
and you KNOW he doesn't dare say anything.
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