MSNBC: Elizabeth Edwards to campaign with and for Hillary in NC!!!!!

[GoldieAZ49]

Amazing!

He doesn't think John will come out, but Elizabeth will!!


WOOHOO

:applause:

[gateley]

1. That's really interesting!

Are you surprised?

[bobbert]

31. RUMOR

not true

[gateley]

40. How do you know it's not true? nt

[bobbert]

51. Elizabeth Edwards herself was not on MSNBC and there was no statement from her

Until it comes out of her mouth, it is a rumor.

Also, read post #7

You're right, I don't know it's not true, but I don't know it is true either. My opinion is that a rumor is not true until it comes from a reliable source. Some pundit on MSNBC's opinion is not a reliable source.

edit: post #48 is better

[GoldieAZ49]

59. This is what I found, the media probably has even more info

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/09/elizabeth-edwards-praises_n_95788.html


Elizabeth Edwards praised Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan on ABC News this morning, saying "I just have more confidence in Senator Clinton's policy than Senator Obama's on this particular issue."

Meanwhile, Time notes that Mrs. Edwards has joined the Center for American Progress which "has been operating for the past two years as a kind of Hillary Clinton Administration-in-waiting."

[Tellurian]

86. Great...if she's reading here..

She will be Welcome here with open arms by all the Hill Supporters..

Come back, Elizabeth. Come back soon.

[kwenu]

60. Umm. The proponent usually has the burden of PROVING what is coming out of his/her mouth.

[gateley]

61. Ummmm. I was just asking a question.

All I saw was the OP -- I was wondering if the person I asked the question to had heard something else. Sheesh.

[GoldieAZ49]

65. Sorry some are so testy tonight - I just ignore them, Here is a bit more info:

Howard Fineman said this on MSNBC tonight, I did a google search and found this regarding Elizabeths position, sound like she would work in Hillary's administration.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/09/elizabeth-edwards-praises_n_95788.html

Elizabeth Edwards praised Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan on ABC News this morning, saying "I just have more confidence in Senator Clinton's policy than Senator Obama's on this particular issue."

Meanwhile, Time notes that Mrs. Edwards has joined the Center for American Progress which "has been operating for the past two years as a kind of Hillary Clinton Administration-in-waiting."

[kwenu]

67. Why are you shocked that people are testy when your topic is a flat out lie?

There is no proof backing up what you said and it really sounds like you made it up.

[GoldieAZ49]

73. Howard Fineman on MSNBC tonight:

"I'm told not to be surprised if in North Carolina, Elizabeth Edwards shows up at Hillary Clinton events--with Hillary and
maybe even without Hillary. I don't think John Edwards is going to endorse, but I think Elizabeth Edwards sentiments
are going to be made even more clear, and that matters in North Carolina."

[kwenu]

90. Are you one of those people who feel there is no need to think when the media does it for you?

Howard Fineman is a talking head (like all of them) who babbles a stream of consciousness for entertainment. He's only telling you what he thinks based upon rumors. His statements do not indicate that he represents the Edwards or that he is authorized to speak on her behalf. He also does not state that he is quoting her directly. THEREFORE, the title of this thread has no basis.

I don't think you are stupid and incapable of basic logic so I am going to chalk it up to over-exuberance of the moment.

[gateley]

69. I'm testy tonight, too.

I've been sitting here with a frown for a couple of hours. Time to go to bed.

But thanks for the additional info -- as I said in my initial post, this could be interesting!!

Congrats to you and your candidate tonight. She and her supporters seemed so HAPPY at her speech! You could feel the difference in the energy. :hi:

[Two Americas]

79. class act

You are very generous and fair-minded, gateley. I appreciate that very much.

[Emit]

76. CAP, which "Team Hillary now snarkily refer to the group as the Center for Obama's Progress"

The New Republic

CAP Trade
by Michelle Cottle
How Hillary's think tank went for Obama.
Post Date Wednesday, March 12, 2008

DISCUSS ARTICLE <29> | PRINT | EMAIL ARTICLE



Is it any wonder that Hillary Clinton can't help but occasionally burst into tears? This was supposed to be her year, gosh darn it. She had the money machine, the big-gun advisers, the support of the party establishment, and, of course, the carefully cultivated aura of inevitability. But then along came Barack Obama, and, suddenly, everywhere Hill turns, there's Mr. Audacity of Hope, flashing that goofy grin and siphoning off the love--or at least the tribute--that was rightfully hers. Obama has wooed away white-collar progressives. And independents. And young people. And the black community (the original Clinton firewall, for crying out loud). Now he's whipping Hillary in the money race and winning the endorsements of some of the party's most venerable figures. There's even talk that superdelegates who had previously pledged their troth to the Clintons are contemplating a change of allegiance. (Witness civil rights icon John Lewis's recent wavering.)

And, just when you thought the abandonment couldn't cut any deeper, it turns out that Obama--this upstart, this freshman, this guy no one in Washington had even heard of five years ago--has captured the affections of a Beltway institution widely seen as an unofficial outpost of Team Hillary: the Center for American Progress.

~snip~

Today, Team Hillary finds itself faced with a "Clinton White House in exile" completely awash in Obamamania. CAP's national security team is overwhelmingly pro-Obama, with many members advising the campaign. Executive Vice President for Policy Melody Barnes was an early supporter, while Senior VP for Domestic Policy Cassandra Butts has been an Obama chum since law school. Some veteran Clintonites (such as Smith and Daalder) have joined the revolution. And, among junior staff, Hillary folks are a rare breed. This isn't to suggest there aren't plenty of Clinton devotees still in residence, especially in CAP's upper echelons. But supporters of both candidates say the in-house divide tilts heavily in Obama's favor. (The most equitable guesstimate I heard was a 60-40 split.) The quasi-joke around CAP's H Street offices is that members of Team Hillary now snarkily refer to the group as the Center for Obama's Progress. Responds Podesta with an awkward chuckle, "Oh, well, let's just say that the ... um ... I think I ought to be careful about that one."



http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=fb3465cf-bf86-4750-a7fa-6cb02a475beb&k=33643&p=1

[WA98296]

2. So, the Edwards talk of change was total BS?

[oviedodem]

9. Bingo!

[Justitia]

15. Apparently. Guess the Pro-War DLCers really do stick together. -eom

[IndianaGreen]

22. I suppose Elizabeth Edwards supports Hillary's promise to nuke the Middle East

How's that for family values?

[aquart]

29. No, honey, he really meant it.

As opposed to your televangelist.

[dugggy]

56. Depends on the kind of "change"

Edwards looks at change differently than Obama, may be the reason.

[GoldieAZ49]

57. Universal Healthcare is a major change for the USA

that is near and dear to both Hillary and the Edwards

[newmajority]

63. What Hillary is proposing is NOT Universal Health Care, it's mandatory corporate care.

And Hillary got the idea from Willard Mittens Brigham Romney.

Edwards campaigned on stopping corporatism, not further enabling of it.

[GoldieAZ49]

75. the Edwards disagree with you

I think they are better informed than you

[Hepburn]

74. GMAFB....

John and Elizabeth want universal health care...HilLIARy wants universal health INSURANCE. Please...don't confuse the two...they are NOTHING alike. The one HilLIARy favors is basically a government welfare program for the insurance companies.

[GoldieAZ49]

78. Elizabeth Edwards praised Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/09/elizabeth-edwards-praises_n_95788.html


Elizabeth Edwards praised Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan on ABC News this morning, saying "I just have more confidence in Senator Clinton's policy than Senator Obama's on this particular issue."

Meanwhile, Time notes that Mrs. Edwards has joined the Center for American Progress which "has been operating for the past two years as a kind of Hillary Clinton Administration-in-waiting."

[newmajority]

80. That quote is meaningless without context.

There's nothing there - not in your quote, not at the Huffington Post, not at the blog they got it from - that specifies WHAT it is that Elizabeth Edwards allegedly likes about Hillary's plan.

Sounds like Arianna (and the other blogger) just wanted to dream up a pseudo-endorsement of Hillary by Mrs. Edwards. The far more interesting quote actually came later in the original blog's account of the story....

Note that last week, Mrs. Edwards hinted that she and her husband may back different candidates.

I have a feeling we'll be hearing from the future Attorney General shortly before the NC primary. ;)

[ClayZ]

71. He didn't even change to a new barber!

[shellinaya]

82. Nevermind "man boobs"

How is a woman running the country not going to be a huge CHANGE?

You white boys really make me laugh. XD

[Thepricebreaker]

3. Wait I thought they said she might... is it a done deal?

[karynnj]

What I heard was "don't be surprised if EE shows up with HRC in NC events

[oviedodem]

4. Surprised a little but it goes to show you something.

[Tiggeroshii]

5. link?

[bluetrain]

6. I love Elizabeth. /nt

[CoffeeCat]

7. Ok, this was OPINION....not FACT...

I heard Howard Fineman say this. He was thinking out loud and
suggesting that Elizabeth Edwards might come out to Hillary events.

How many times have pundits said something that Elizabeth might do, or did say--only
to have her correct it later.

Fineman had nothing to back up what he said.

[aquart]

34. Well, then the headline should be pulled.

I'd love it, but I love the truth more.

[ScarletSniper]

8. Wow..I'm so overwhelmed..what shall I do...lmao

[DemGa]

10. Great news!!

[Phillycat]

11. NO SHIT.

As Edwards was my first choice, I am extremely pleased to hear this news! I love Elizabeth.

[BootinUp]

12. Wow! nt

[ecstatic]

Sticking together. Not a big surprise

Yawn.

[Cass]

13. Wow! That is very cool!

Elizabeth is such a great lady!

:bounce:

[mac2]

33. Great to hear Elizabeth is well enough to campaign.

[Liquorice]

14. I love Elizabeth Edwards! I hope she does campaign for Hillary. :-) nt

[Seen the light]

16. Congratulations, the # of lying hillbot threads tonight is up to at least 3

"MSNBC" didn't say that, Howard Fineman *speculated* on that happening. Possibly.

[Hepburn]

77. Thanks for setting the record straight.

Imagine that...a lie from a Hillbot. What a shocker...NOT! No wonder some people are supporting HilLIARy ~~ they are just like her...and that is NOT a compliment.

[grantcart]

17. wow that is big news where is the link?

[rwheeler31]

18. Oh no this is sad.

[ErinBerin84]

that judas!!!!

Just kidding. I'm an Obama supporter, but Elizabeth is an awesome surrogate-and the most important thing is that she hammers McCain's (lack of) health care plan.


But is this confirmed or is this just a prediction from Howard Fineman?

[scheming daemons]

19. That's not what they said.... but if if makes you feel happy.....

:eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

20. Link?

(not that I'm surprised)

[KittyWampus]

21. How pathetic. Posting a rumor to try and generate some enthusiasm for a sad candidate

[RareLubbockDem]

27. agreed... I heard it and it was someone's guess only.

Maybe it'll happen. Maybe not. But if it makes you happy...

[smalll]

23. Good news for her! A 10% win, Elizabeth in NC, (even Abercrombiegate) --

a lot of good news for HRC supporters tonight! :)

[OzarkDem]

24. WOO-HOO!!!!! Thank you Elizabeth!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you, Darlin'. I love you!

You know we need real health care reform.

[Tellurian]

25. This is what I know for sure..

Hillary has got the pundits heads spinning.. They don't know what to say.. they have nothing in the way of advise..

I Love it!...:rofl:



Heres our Girl!

GO HILLARY!

[gort]

64. How sexist

To refer to a Senator as a girl

[Tellurian]

85. haha! cute..huh...

Senatriss? :rofl:

[gort]

88. Senanatrix?

I think I like that better. ;)

Thanks for having a sense of humor.

I admire strong women like the Senator even though my support is for Obama.

Either one will get my vote in November.

[Nutmegger]

26. Bring on DU's favorite past-time: Two Minutes Edwards Hate!

R&K for Elizabeth!

[Royal Oak Rog]

28. Total Hogwash

There is no way Elizabeth Edwards comes out for Hillary. It's a total fabrication of a post.

[CoffeeCat]

41. I heard Fineman say this...

...and he was totally expressing his opinion about what MIGHT happen.

He had no proof or no quote from Elizabeth Edwards.

He was rambling and this sounds like one of those things that will be
denied by Elizabeth in the morning.

[spoony]

30. The bad news is that assholes will now take aim at her

Like they've already begun doing in this thread.

[Hoof Hearted]

35. Trust me man, once you've taken on cancer - assholes are no more bothersome than houseflies

[spoony]

50. True, true.

Still hate to see it, but you're absolutely right.

[Hoof Hearted]

32. HOLY SHIT! Wooooooooooooooo Hooooooooo!

Good woman, and I defy anyone to say otherwise.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Last I knew the DU CW was that EE didnn't like Hillary.


eggos on your face-os.

[winga222]

It's obviously not confirmed but I wouldn't actually be surprised

One of the biggest differences on the domestic front between Clinton and Obama is healthcare. The Edwards believe that there are no half measures - either every American is covered by mandate or the insurance companies will wiggle their way out of covering the very sick, an issue very dear to Elizabeth.

[GoldieAZ49]

47. Yes and the Edwards' have said this is the most important issue to them

Hillary and Elizabeth patched up their differences when she went to court their endorsement and Obama got into an argument with her

[wisteria]

36. So, that doesn't move me. n/t

[LiberalAndProud]

37. I doubt it.

Elizabeth is gravely ill. She is an immensely strong an courageous woman, but campaigning is out of the question, IMO.

[McCamy Taylor]

38. Link?

[Emit]

39. That's really disappointing if it's true

I thought better of her

[GoldieAZ49]

66. unlike anyone here, she KNOWS both candidates and has a relationship with both

to base her decision on.

I trust and respect her choice, as I did when both decided not to endorse either candidate.

[MattNC]

42. Elizabeth

(who I think is wonderful and my family knows casually) will not be a vote turner for Hillary. Nice symbolism, though, I suppose.

[my3boyz]

46. From the poll I read a month or so ago an Edwards endorsement

would HURT Obama in North Carolina. For whatever reason he is not popular there anymore. I actually like him. I'm sure people will feel sympathy for Elizabeth when she talks about how her incurable illness and healthcare. However, I don't think it will change minds. If she can't make a difference in a state like North Carolina she should really stay out of it. However, if she strongly feels like she can make a difference then she should go for it. I don't think it matters either way because Obama will still win North Carolina and the nomination.

[crispini]

43. this was an OPINION -- not FACT.

You should change your OP.

[MonkeyFunk]

44. Wow!

That's awesome.

I feel some momentum.

[FatDave]

45. That was a prediction by Howard Fineman

Prediction may even be too strong a word. More of a "maybe we'll see".

[GoldieAZ49]

54. Then why would he say John would not be out but Elizabeth would?

Why not say both?

I think the only reason John isn't is because he still has delegates and will be making a case at the convention

[CoffeeCat]

48. Here is the exact quote...about Elizabeth Edwards....

Thank God for TIVO....here is Fineman's exact quote on MSNBC


"I'm told not to be surprised if in North Carolina, Elizabeth Edwards shows up at Hillary Clinton events--with Hillary and
maybe even without Hillary. I don't think John Edwards is going to endorse, but I think Elizabeth Edwards sentiments
are going to be made even more clear, and that matters in North Carolina."

[MattNC]

53. "that matters in North Carolina"

to about ten voters maybe

[Epiphany4z]

58. I like Elizabeth

But I see little point in showing up for HC ..she cannot catch up in delegates and there would be near riots if it was ever thought she stoled out from under BO...I just dont see how she can get the win and have it pass as ok...she would loose so many voters with a move like that.

[jillan]

49. I love Elizabeth!! Always have.... and I must admit....

I like her much better than her hubby.

[femrap]

52. Too cool!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :wow: :wow: :wow: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :party: :party: :party:

[guruoo]

55. So now they'll have two to destroy

Busy busy busy.

[ClericJohnPreston]

62. Tsk,tsk

This Edwards supporter told you how John would go months ago!

Go John Go. Congratulations Hillary!

[Hoof Hearted]

68. E. E. -- I have sen the underside of the O bus

most of my friends were there.

[kwenu]

70. You'll be looking at the license plate pulling away from you come June.

[Hepburn]

72. Link?

:eyes:

[shellinaya]

81. Great News

This is the second place I read this, so it must be true.
This is better than John Edwards endorsing her because Elizabeth is the one with all the serious health problems and NC didn't love JE anyway.

[Mags]

83. Great, go Elizabeth, go Hillary.

[ShortnFiery]

84. Yes, Elizabeth Edward's statement that the country is not ready for an African American President ..

now takes on new significance. She's in good company with Eddy Rendel, et. al. :eyes:

[GodlessBiker]

87. She said that?

[ShortnFiery]

89. Yes, she did! Perhaps her and Bubba can campaign "Southern Strategy" together.

<cue Dukes of Hazard Theme Music> :shrug:


http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Elizabeth+Edwards%22+%22not+ready%22+%22black+president%22&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8

Aug 14, 2007 ... Elizabeth Edwards blasts 'holier than thou' Obama ...... "Really, I am not sure American's ready for a black president"

[Raffi Ella]

91. YEAH!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU ELIZABETH!!!!! :patriot: