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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:55 PM
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March 12 in PA: Clinton 55, Obama 36... Today: Clinton 55(+0), Obama 45(+9)

Despite all the negative attacks on Obama the past month.... he moved his numbers up 9 points.


Hillary's numbers didn't move at all.



In addition.... Obama bankrupted her campaign..... Chuck Todd said it best... It was like what the U.S. did to the Soviets to win the cold war. Spent them into bankrupcy.


Obama... like a good military commander... was able to lessen the effects of a sure loss, and turn it into a long-term win.


Clinton won the battle... but the six weeks of money hemorraging from her campaign to defend a state that she should have won by 20%... made her lose the war.

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:57 PM
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1. You figure that 3x spending on ads would make no difference at all?
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:01 PM
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3. You figure that Obama didn't earn that money?
It's the same as her having a very popular former POTUS as her husband and the entire Democratic establishment behind her in the state. This whole spin that somehow Obama was wrong for outspending her is ridiculous. His fundraising is an indication of how much support he has in the party and even outside the party.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:04 PM
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6. Yeah... they forced Clinton to spend what little she had left as well......
..she exhausted her coffers.


Maybe she raised 2 or 3 million tonight.... that will be gone in a few days.


Can't stretch 3 million over 2 weeks in two states.



She's OUT. OF. CASH.


She scored a touchdown tonight... but her starting QB and RB were injured on the drive and are out for the rest of the season.


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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:07 PM
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12. LOL! it did make all the difference.
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:07 PM by cryingshame
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:59 PM
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2. Her numbers never go up
Not since the campaign started.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:02 PM
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4. It was an astounding victory for
Hillary when you consider she was outspent 3 or 4 to 1. In addition to that Hillary has been dogged constantly with negative press since the get go and Obama has been the media darling.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:05 PM
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8. Disagree strongly. Media has been strongly anti-Obama for past 4 weeks......

Ever since the WRight story broke, actually.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:09 PM
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13. If the Wright story had broke 4 months ago
he wouldn't even be a contender today.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:03 PM
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5. scheming, we're stuck at 91%. Who's out?
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:04 PM
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7. How do you say, PA rigged?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:05 PM
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9. lol 10 points.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:06 PM
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10. Glad you see the "full" part of the glass!
Agree completely! :hi:
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:07 PM
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11. I think this is great...he did awesome in a state that was very tough
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:09 PM by Blue_Roses
I have to say, if that isn't presidential material then I don't know what is. He worked his butt off and it showed. What is with the older white women voters who turned out for Hillary? Why is Hillary so liked in PA with the older white women voters? This is the voting block that put her over the top.

I have my own theory on this since I am inching to that age "box" that put her over, but I still don't get the fascination with her.
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:09 PM
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14. that means EVERY undecided went to Obama
Which means voter who were going to vote on her based on name recognition and would not change their minds still voted for her, the only person who could persuade undecided voters was Barack.
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