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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:17 PM
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Hillary's - The Low Road to Victory - New York Times Editorial April 23, 2008
April 23, 2008
Editorial
The Low Road to Victory

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23wed1.html?partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

The Pennsylvania campaign, which produced yet another inconclusive result on Tuesday, was even meaner, more vacuous, more desperate, and more filled with pandering than the mean, vacuous, desperate, pander-filled contests that preceded it.

Voters are getting tired of it; it is demeaning the political process; and it does not work. It is past time for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to acknowledge that the negativity, for which she is mostly responsible, does nothing but harm to her, her opponent, her party and the 2008 election.

If nothing else, self interest should push her in that direction. Mrs. Clinton did not get the big win in Pennsylvania that she needed to challenge the calculus of the Democratic race. It is true that Senator Barack Obama outspent her 2-to-1. But Mrs. Clinton and her advisers should mainly blame themselves, because, as the political operatives say, they went heavily negative and ended up squandering a good part of what was once a 20-point lead.

On the eve of this crucial primary, Mrs. Clinton became the first Democratic candidate to wave the bloody shirt of 9/11. A Clinton television ad — torn right from Karl Rove’s playbook — evoked the 1929 stock market crash, Pearl Harbor, the Cuban missile crisis, the cold war and the 9/11 attacks, complete with video of Osama bin Laden. “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen,” the narrator intoned.

If that was supposed to bolster Mrs. Clinton’s argument that she is the better prepared to be president in a dangerous world, she sent the opposite message on Tuesday morning by declaring in an interview on ABC News that if Iran attacked Israel while she were president: “We would be able to totally obliterate them.”

By staying on the attack and not engaging Mr. Obama on the substance of issues like terrorism, the economy and how to organize an orderly exit from Iraq, Mrs. Clinton does more than just turn off voters who don’t like negative campaigning. She undercuts the rationale for her candidacy that led this page and others to support her: that she is more qualified, right now, to be president than Mr. Obama.

Mr. Obama is not blameless when it comes to the negative and vapid nature of this campaign. He is increasingly rising to Mrs. Clinton’s bait, undercutting his own claims that he is offering a higher more inclusive form of politics. When she criticized his comments about “bitter” voters, Mr. Obama mocked her as an Annie Oakley wannabe. All that does is remind Americans who are on the fence about his relative youth and inexperience.

No matter what the high-priced political operatives (from both camps) may think, it is not a disadvantage that Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton share many of the same essential values and sensible policy prescriptions. It is their strength, and they are doing their best to make voters forget it. And if they think that only Democrats are paying attention to this spectacle, they’re wrong.

After seven years of George W. Bush’s failed with-us-or-against-us presidency, all American voters deserve to hear a nuanced debate — right now and through the general campaign — about how each candidate will combat terrorism, protect civil liberties, address the housing crisis and end the war in Iraq.

It is getting to be time for the superdelegates to do what the Democrats had in mind when they created superdelegates: settle a bloody race that cannot be won at the ballot box. Mrs. Clinton once had a big lead among the party elders, but has been steadily losing it, in large part because of her negative campaign. If she is ever to have a hope of persuading these most loyal of Democrats to come back to her side, let alone win over the larger body of voters, she has to call off the dogs.

..............

Right on!!!!!!!:headbang:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:21 PM
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1. Absurd. I'm Ashamed Of The NY Times
It should be titled "The Low Road To Defeat".
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:27 PM
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2. Defeat for whom? Hillary or the Democratic Party?
Hillary may have won PA but Barack is winning in the country by 10.4 points!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

Democratic Presidential Nomination
Democratic Delegate Count

Poll Date Sample Obama Clinton Spread
RCP Average 04/07 - 04/21 - 50.1 39.7 Obama +10.4
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:54 PM
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6. LOL
I got it, anyway ...

:spray:
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:29 PM
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3. Her own state has disowned her

She loses her Senate seat along with her dignity.
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tigervalentine Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:35 PM
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4. Dignity?
*What* dignity?

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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:38 AM
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12. I was surprised to see Obama outraised her subtantially in NY last month.
That ought to tell you something.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:50 PM
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5. It's teh ironic on the same page as their endorsement of her
:P
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:56 PM
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7. It is odd isn't it - someone wake up??? They sure said it like it is!
:hide:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:58 PM
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8. I think Pennsylvania was like a thumb in the dike
SD's will begin to move now.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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9. Agreed - Vote is getting tighter now - 8.6% with 98.79%!
2008 General Primary
Tuesday, April 22, 2008

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=27&OfficeID=1

Unofficial Returns
*** 9,154 out of 9,266 Districts (98.79%) Reporting Statewide ***

President of the United States


Democratic Primary

Candidate Votes Percent
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)

1,037,420 45.7%
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)

1,230,822 54.3%


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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:12 AM
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10. Even better!
:woohoo:
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:22 AM
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11. The problem is that the low road works - fear and loathing always work - but
at what cost to our party and country. I for one can not understand how people who call themselves democrats can overlook the fear tactics she used and the mind-boggling threat to 'obliterate' another country. Democrats sure aren't what they used to be. Hillary supporters seemed to have sold their soul for a chance of getting a female in the White House - even if that female represents the worst masculine 'war-mongering' values. I am so glad I live in California and, should she become the nominee, I will probably not have to vote for her. (And yes, I'm a woman.)
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:54 AM
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13. I don't believe the low road worked
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:58 AM by themartyred
He was down by 20 points, what? a month ago?, and closed it in half despite incredible and absurdly worded attacks upon Obama's character. She and her other half act like they have no shame.

Sometimes the truth hurts - the NYT's is to be commended for pointing out her scorched Earth style of gutter politics.


K&R!
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