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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:37 PM
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“OBAMA SUPPORTERS” DAILY NEWS Wednesday April 23, 2008

WELCOME TO “OBAMA SUPPORTERS” DAILY NEWS

Wednesday April 23, 2008


Pennsylvania’s Result: It’s About Delegates and Demographics

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:43 PM
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1. Pennsylvania’s Result: It’s About Delegates and Demographics
Obama expanded his demographics....

Pennsylvania’s Result: It’s About Delegates and Demographics

The Field Wednesday April 23, 2008

In a few minutes we start counting real votes.

DKos diarist Rieux - veteran of the Texas caucus delegate counting marathon - has put up a chart that will presumably be updated over the course of the evening to track the results in 19 Pennsylvania Congressional Districts and how they translate into delegates.

That’s the most important number that will come out of today.

The other key factor will be how the candidates fared with key demographic groups compared to the Ohio results seven weeks ago. Here’s your most important link: Ohio exit poll results. That’s what will explain whether each candidate expanded his or her base, or lost parts of it.

Update: CNN has posted the Pennsylvania exit poll demographics.

...Update: Looks like The Field’s insistence that Pennsylvania results be compared with Ohio results is taking hold. Bill Schneider at CNN, about five minutes ago, started comparing the demographics and found that Obama is expanding his coalition while Clinton’s is bleeding voters.
And Ben Smith has a missive from an Obama staffer working the same analysis.

...Update VI: The Clinton campaign had hoped for a margin of +204,000 votes today in Pennsylvania to be able to brag (until North Carolina and Indiana vote on May 6) a “lead” in the national popular vote (if they include Florida and Michigan). That’s not going to happen tonight. In fact, they could fall short by 60,000 to 100,000 (or more!) votes of that goal, which will put the whole “popular vote” gambit out of reach for the duration.



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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:46 PM
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2. Not a question of whether, but how (Obama winning)

Not a question of whether, but how

Jed Report Tue Apr 22

So this is off-the-cuff -- I reserve the right to change my mind, and welcome any criticism.

My overall take is that at this point it's not a question of whether Barack Obama wins the nomination, it's question of how he wins the nomination.

Here's how I arrive at that conclusion:

First, if Pennsylvania were the only state that mattered, Clinton won a solid victory, somewhere around 9 or 10 points. Hats off.

Second, Pennsylvania isn't the only state that matters -- it's important, but 95% of the delegates are selected elsewhere.

Third, Barack Obama still has a mortal lock on the pledged delegate battle, which means that he will be the nominee. The superdelegates just aren't going to overturn the popular vote.

Fourth, Hillary Clinton's continued candidacy means that she would rather see John McCain be president than Barack Obama.
She's got virtually no path to the nomination. Continuing this campaign will just further polarize the Democratic Party, and
draw vital resources away from defeating John McCain -- and other downballot races.

....Finally, Obama does I think need to hone his message a bit. Clinton comes across as someone who is running for Mayor -- she is pandering, and promising the world to a lot of people. In effect, she is lying: she is making promises that she can't or won't keep. Obama does need to call her on this, and he can do so in a humorous way. I think voters need to see some of her flip flops, especially on NAFTA. Just as importantly, Obama needs some work on his message to women voters who are sticking by Clinton because they see her as a victim who has fought through extraordinary challenges. I'll post more about that tomorrow, probably in the next couple of days.

I'll close by repeating my opening thought: at this point, it isn't a question of whether Barack Obama wins the nomination -- it's a question of how he wins it.

Double-digits for Clinton?

more at the link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:49 PM
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3. PA Primary: Polling Place, E-Voting Problem Wire...
This story needs to be reported.

I'm a full time e-voting activist. Pennsylvania recently switched to paperless voting machines across most of the state.In 2005, in the counties already paperless, they had astronomical undervotes for President.

The easiest way to win in PA is to make sure that your opponents' supporters
don't get to cast their vote. Just don't send out enough voting machines, or
send out broken ones.

Please go to this link and recommend:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3278852&mesg_id=3278852
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:52 PM
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4. What is wrong with election officials in Pennsylvania?

What is wrong with election officials in Pennsylvania?

John Gideon of Voters Unite

They knew that voter turnout was going to set records today yet many precincts only have two machines. Two machines equal long lines and voters turning around and going home.

On top of that there were wide-spread machine failures.

And, on top of that, in areas like Philadelphia officials will not allow voters to use a paper ballot unless both machines are
out-of-service and then, the paper ballot is a provisional ballot that may or may not ever be counted.

At the same time that voters are reporting problems to the local news blogs and the voting assistance
groups, local officials were telling the broadcast media that there were very few problems and they were all expected (normal).

In fact the problems were numerous enough to warrant VoterAction to go to court in an attempt to keep the polls open for two extra hours. That attempt was denied.

PA: Pennsylvania Primary: Polling Place, E-Voting Problem Wire...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5918

PA: Voter Story: Battling Administrative Incompetence And Technical
Failure At The Polls
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/allison-fine/voter-story-battling-admi_b_97891.html

PA: Reports of disenfranchised and uncertain voters
http://blogs.phillyburbs.com/blog.php/?p=28239&cat=197

PA: Heavy Turnout In Pa.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/22/heavy-turnout-in-pa/

PA: Obama camp charging voting problems in PA
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_camp_charging_voting_problems_in_0422.html

PA: Election Protection in Full Swing in Pennsylvania
http://newsblaze.com/story/2008042212030400006.pnw/newsblaze/POLITICS/Politics.html

PA: Voting Problems In Pennsylvania?
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/04/22/politics/horserace/entry4035618.shtml

PA: Breaking: Voter Group Requests Extended Poll Hours
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/Extended_Hours_Paper_Ballots.html

PA: Poll problems: The case to extend hours
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/Poll_Problems_the_Case_to_Extend_Hours.html

PA: Judge: Polls Will Close As Scheduled
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/Judge_Polls_Will_Close_As_Scheduled.html

PA: Allegheny County - Early Polling Issue Reported In Green Tree
http://kdka.com/local/Poll.Green.Tree.2.705572.html

PA: Bucks County - Downed voting machines caused delays in Falls
http://blogs.phillyburbs.com/blog.php/?p=28259&cat=0

PA: Centre County - Update: Voting brisk in county, at HUB
http://www.centredaily.com/116/story/541302.html

PA: Monroe County - Changes should eliminate long lines, lengthy waits
for voters
http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080422/NEWS/804220302

PA: Northampton County - Polls open for Pennsylvania primary
http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-n-l-voters-042208-cn,0,5655617.story

PA: Northampton County - Palmer Twp. voter reports ballot confusion
http://blog.pennlive.com/lvbreakingnews/2008/04/palmer_township_voter_reports.html

PA: Philadelphia - Court Appointed Machine Inspector Denied Entrance to
Poll
http://www.electionjournal.org/?p=129

PA: Westmoreland County - Election workers brace for onslaught
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribunereview/news/westmoreland/s_563612.html


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:52 PM
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5. LA Times: Clinton's Pennsylvania victory doesn't do much for her odds
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:53 PM
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6. "Mrs. Clinton did not get the big win in Pennsylvania that she needed" - NYT
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:53 PM by WillYourVoteBCounted
The Low Road to Victory
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x354620

Someone may want to post a thread about this in the GDP. This one is in op/eds, and then there's one in news....
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:54 PM
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7. After Downing Street: Obama for President

Obama For President


By Sherwood Ross at After Downing Stree Mon, 2008-04-21

Of course, when fanatics can’t attack a man for anything he’s actually done that’s downright despicable, they’ll go after him for what he’s said, and if they can’t find anything he’s said that’s awful they’ll go after him for what his friends or associates have said.

Apparently, that’s why Fox News has endlessly replayed those clips of Senator Obama’s pastor saying controversial things. All they can charge Obama with is knowing the man, not exactly a crime yet in America, and the Fox newscasters aren’t the least bit mollified that Obama has repudiated Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s comments. Fox is engaging in the old Joe McCarthy smear tactic of guilt by association. Back in the Fifties, if you happened to ride on the same bus with a Commie, it made you a “fellow traveler.”

By contrast, Fox commentators don’t begin to hold Senator McCain up to the same standard they demand of Obama’s pastor! Bill O’Reilly sees nothing wrong with Senator McCain’s vote to launch an illegal war against Iraq because O’Reilly backed that war, too, and seemingly swallowed the lies Bush told to start it.

No matter if Bush’s war has by now claimed the lives of a million human beings, destroyed much of Iraq, and cost the American people 4,000+ lives, 30,000 wounded, (have you visited a VA hospital lately?) and parted the public from a couple of trillion bucks. As far as Fox News is concerned, it’s okay to vote to make illegal wars and kill innocent people. It’s not okay to have a pastor that condemns wrong wars in an angry tone of voice. That's disgusting.

As this campaign has worn on, I have begun to suspect that Obama does not believe in killing innocent people. Recall that Senator Clinton scolded him last year for saying he would not use atomic weapons to go after terrorists. Obama said he wouldn’t do it as nukes might kill civilians.

...more at the link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:55 PM
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8. Bush Three Is Wrong -- Is Clinton Three Any Better?

Bush Three Is Wrong -- Is Clinton Three Any Better?

Alec Baldwin, 04.21.2008


….There are cycles in American history wherein the richest and most powerful people who actually own and run this country make there greatest effort to elect a true corporatocracy candidate. They literally steal the election, if need be. They install their witless, pliant factotums and they start skimming. They order even more expensive things we don't need. They relax regulations to the point where there are essentially no regulations at all. They might even start a war, if the can get away with it. If questionable people happen to be in the country taking flying lessons without learning how to land and you don't bother to investigate them, you increase the chances you may get away with it.

There are periods in American history when the haves just knock the have-nots to the ground and say,"Enough." They push the government into greater debt. They sign unconscionable mortgages for future generations. They lie and tell the American people that to get out of the convoluted military quagmire would only threaten us more. Threaten our children. Their future.

When their friends run into trouble, they bail them out. No, I mean we bail them out. They decide. We simply do the paying. Bill Clinton killed welfare as we knew it. Maybe its time had come. I was hoping that both Clintons would have condemned the Bear Stearns deal in the harshest terms. No such luck.

...But, if Bush Three is wrong, terrifyingly wrong, then is Clinton Three any better? Who do you think really has the guts to stand against the most potent special interests who truly care more about the dollar than the flag? We don't have a draft in this country in order keep politics out of military policy. For too many Americans, the truth is that, "My child isn't over there. That's all I care about." The fact that there has not been one great, national day of protest against this war will surely come back to haunt us all.

Who will end this war?

Obama will end this war.

...more at the link

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:56 PM
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9. Carolina Democratic Party: Another Debate May Further Fray Party Unity

North Carolina Democratic Party: Another Debate May Further Fray Party Unity

By Alex Weprin -- Broadcasting & Cable, 4/21/2008

The Democratic presidential debate set to air on CBS April 27 was canceled by the North Carolina Democratic Party. The debate would have been the first for CBS in this election cycle and the first moderated by the team of Katie Couric and Bob Schieffer.

“Obviously, we’re disappointed,” CBS News senior vice president Paul Friedman said, adding that the network was still hopeful that Couric and Schieffer would get a chance to host a forum or debate in advance of the party conventions.

“You have shown tremendous passion and interest in being a part of history as Democrats are poised this year to elect the first female or African-American president,” the NCDP said in a statement. “However, there were also growing concerns about what another debate would do to party unity.”

The NCDP said in the statement that the debate was canceled due to time constraints and logistical issues associated with such a large event. Specifically, the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) accepted the idea of having a debate prior to the Pennsylvania primary, while the campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton (N.Y.) did not like the dates that had been scheduled. When the new debate was scheduled in advance of the North Carolina primary, the Clinton campaign was on board but the Obama camp remained noncommittal.

...more at the link

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:57 PM
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10. SuperDelegates take note -There's a group around [Sen. Clinton] that

SuperDelegates take note


by John Aravosis (DC) • 4/22/2008

WSJ
Donna Brazile, an uncommitted superdelegate as an official of the Democratic National Committee, and manager of the 2000 Gore campaign. "There's a group around that really wants to take the fight to the convention. They don't care about the party. It scares me, and that's what scares a lot of superdelegates."


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:58 PM
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11. Palmer Twp. voter reports ballot confusion

Palmer Twp. voter reports ballot confusion

Posted by Alyssa Young April 22, 2008 09:30AM

Look closely at this sample ballot for Easton's 10th Ward (double-click to enlarge).

The italicized words beneath the delegates' names indicate which candidate they support.
Not all delegates beneath Barack Obama's name in in Column A will vote for him,
and some of the delegates beneath Hillary Clinton's name in Column B will vote for Obama.
Ritann Tosto of Palmer Township said the setup is misleading.

Palmer Township resident Ritann Tosto wants to warn voters to read the fine print beneath
the delegate candidates' names.

Tosto, 59, said she assumed the delegates listed beneath Sen. Barack Obama's name
were his supporters, and the delegates beneath Sen. Hillary Clinton's name were hers.

...more at the link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:59 PM
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12. dupe
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:00 AM by WillYourVoteBCounted
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:00 AM
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13. 29 North Carolina Legislators Endorse Barack Obama
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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14. Press Release - Coalition fields over 1,000 calls of voting problems in PA
Election Protection Coalition Fields Over 1,000 Calls Reporting Scattered Problems Throughout Pennsylvania


PHILADELPHIA, April 22 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- (10:30 p.m. Update)
-- As polls closed across Pennsylvania this evening, the Election
Protection Coalition reported receiving over 1,000 calls to the Voter
Protection Hotline throughout the day. The Coalition entered more reports
into its election reporting database than in any previous state primary,
including primaries earlier this year in California, New York and other
populous states.

Nationally renowned Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law
together with an extensive coalition of partners throughout Pennsylvania,
including Philadelphia-based Committee of Seventy, responded to voting
problems throughout the state through a comprehensive voter protection
program. Nearly 1,000 nonpartisan citizen and legal volunteers monitored
polling places throughout Pennsylvania. Approximately 800 volunteers worked
in Philadelphia. Voters reported issues by way of the coalition hotline
(1-866-OUR-VOTE) and through hundreds of field volunteers throughout the
state.

"Our coalition worked since the polls opened this morning to ensure the
integrity of the vote in Pennsylvania, and to be sure the process is
conducted fairly," said John E. McKeever, Esquire, a partner at law firm
DLA Piper, who serves on the Boards of Directors of both the Lawyers'
Committee and the Committee of Seventy. "Pooling our respective resources
and strengths for this crucial primary helped to ensure that all eligible
citizens have an equal opportunity to exercise the most fundamental of all
rights -- the right to vote."

Jonah Goldman, director of the National Campaign for Fair Elections of
the Lawyers' Committee's Voting Rights Project, said, "In this historic
primary season, voters across the country have turned out in droves to
exercise their fundamental right to vote. Today Pennsylvanians followed
suit. Unfortunately, the heartening story of record turnout is tempered by
the real problems voters face as they try to cast a ballot. Poorly trained
poll workers, problems with voting machines and inaccurate voter
registration rolls caused countless eligible voters to be needlessly
refused the right to vote."

The high turnout exposed many of the fundamental problems that plague
the election administration system throughout the state, together with
allegations of voter intimidation and disenfranchisement merit further
investigation. One of the most troubling issues today was a barrage of
reports from voters who have been registered as Democrats for years, but
were listed as unaffiliated and so had to vote provisionally. When this
problem surfaced earlier in the day, the Coalition took action by alerting
the county Boards of Election to the issue and releasing a statement to the
media advising voters who encounter this problem to vote provisionally. It
is unclear at this time how widespread this problem was.

The most frequently reported problems throughout the day included
general polling place issues such as poll workers giving incorrect
information, rule violations and poor administration regarding polling
locations (250+ calls); registration issues (200); equipment malfunction at
the polls (150) and voter intimidation (80+). Some sample reports include:


-- At one location, the head poll worker asked for a voter's registration
card, and yelled out to everyone else the voter's name, that the voter
was a Democrat, the voter's address and that the machine was not set up
for a Democrat. The voter felt very disrespected and that this was an
invasion of her privacy; she does not want to go back to vote again
because of this worker's behavior.
-- One man was told that he could not vote at his polling place because he
was a Republican.
-- In Delaware County, one voter reported that the voting machines at her
precinct were set for Republicans only. She told the poll worker that
she was a Democrat and the worker replied, "Not today." The voter was
not able to cast a vote, but The League of Women Voters provided her
with the phone number of the Delaware County Board of Elections to
report and resolve the issue.
-- A voter reported that, at one location, building materials were being
thrown off the roof of the polling place to prevent voters from
entering.
-- One caller reported a polling location with only three voting machines
and no printers working. Voters were leaving without being offered
emergency ballots.
-- A voter took her child with her to vote, but the poll worker wouldn't
let the child into the voting area with her. When the child's mother
asked why, the poll worker claimed that it was because her child "can
read."

According to the Commonwealth's Department of State, there are
8,320,083 registered voters in Pennsylvania. In Philadelphia, which has
just over one million voters, the City Commissioners' Office reports that
nearly 114,000 individuals registered to vote between October 27, 2007 and
March 24, 2008, the last date to register before the primary. The rise in
the City's voter registrations is attributed to the intensity of the
national Democratic primary and several local contests. Seventy has already
announced plans for unprecedented oversight of high-profile and contentious
primary races within the City's First Senatorial District and the 179th and
184th House Districts.

The Election Protection coalition is the nation's largest nonpartisan
voter protection. Pennsylvania partners include The Lawyer's Committee for
Civil Rights Under Law; the Committee of Seventy; Common Cause; People for
the American Way Foundation; Avencia; Congresso de Latino Unidos; Dechert
LLP; DLA Piper; Drexel University; Greater Philadelphia Cares; KPMG
International; League of Women Voters of Philadelphia; Morgan, Lewis &
Bocklus; Philadelphia AFL-CIO; Special People in N.E.; Temple University;
University of Pennsylvania Law School; The Daily News and White & Williams
LLP.

The Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law (LCCRUL), a
nonpartisan, nonprofit organization, was formed in 1963 at the request of
President John F. Kennedy to involve the private bar in providing legal
services to address racial discrimination. The principal mission of the
Lawyers' Committee is to secure, through the rule of law, equal justice
under law, particularly in the areas of housing, community development,
employment, voting, education and environmental justice. For more
information about the LCCRUL, visit http://www.lawyerscommittee.org.

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-22-2008/0004798236&EDATE=


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:09 AM
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15. Vote: Listen Up, Obama Surrogates

Popular Vote: Listen Up, Obama Surrogates

by PocketNines at DKOS Tue Apr 22, 2008

Dear Obama Surrogate,

You are going to be on cable news shows in the next two weeks, and you are going to be confronted with the notion of the popular vote being a legitimate measuring stick.

I must say that thus far I have been generally very unimpressed with you as a group. You flub around, you let yourself get bullied by giant assholes like Joe Scarborough and you never make super-easy points.

So listen up, I am going to make this easy for you. Do not screw this up. Use the three obvious points, and use concrete examples, which I have helpfully provided for you. If you do not say these three things, you are a total failure as a surrogate.

Point Number 1: If the popular vote determined the nominee, no candidate would ever go to Iowa or New Hampshire. They'd spend all their time in big urban areas all over the country from the outset of the campaign, racking up raw numbers. What would be the point of even visiting New Hampshire if you could camp out in Brooklyn? Concrete Example: Barack Obama would not have spent only a day and a half in California before the Feb 5 primary. He would have never gone to Idaho. Duh.

Point Number 2: If the popular vote determined the nominee, no state in its right mind would ever hold a caucus, instantly disenfranchising itself.

...more at the link


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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:10 AM
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16. Obama closes in on the 'Pelosi Trigger' Magic Number now only 143
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:12 AM
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17. Clinton's new 'friends' from Whitewater now pushing Obama attacks

Clinton's new 'friends' from Whitewater now pushing Obama attacks


by JedReport Tue Apr 22, 2008

(Cross-posted at The Jed Report.)

During the 1990s, ultra-conservative Pennsylvania billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife funded what Hillary Clinton called a "vast right-wing conspiracy" to destroy her husband’s presidency.

Now, one decade after Scaife’s operation nearly removed her husband from office, Hillary Clinton has reached a rapprochement with the reclusive owner of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

Last weekend Hillary Clinton accepted Scaife’s endorsement in the Pennsylvania primary, offered in the pages of the Tribune-Review. She had pursued the endorsement since last month, earning it after sitting down with Scaife and publicly attacking Barack Obama for attending Trinity United Church of Christ.

JedReport's diary :: ::
One day after Scaife’s endorsement, Newsmax, a Scaife-owned media outlet, began pushing a new negative smear campaign against Obama, attempting to portray him as "weak" on the war on terror because he opposes the death penalty.

....more at the link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:17 AM
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18. Creator Of Willie Horton Ad Releasing Attack Ad On Obama

Creator Of Willie Horton Ad Releasing Attack Ad On Obama


Tuesday, Apr. 22, 2008 By MICHAEL SCHERER

An old right-wing attack dog has returned with a new target: Barack Obama.

Starting Tuesday, a group of conservative activists led by Floyd Brown, author of the famous Willie Horton ad used so effectively against Michael Dukakis in 1988, will begin a campaign to tar Obama as weak on crime and terrorism, a strategy that aims to upend Obama's relatively strong reputation among Republican voters.

"The campaign by Hillary Clinton has not been able to raise Obama's negatives," said Brown on Monday. "It is absolutely critical that Obama's negatives go up with Republicans."

Brown says the initial effort, a 60-second spot called "Victims," will be aired later this month in North Carolina and e-mailed to between 3 and 7 million conservatives this week, with a plea for more funding to further spread the message. "All of the efforts I have ever done in my life have been significantly funded," Brown claimed, though he declined to describe the size of the purchase. "This is going to be the most Internet-intensive effort for an ad debut ever."

...more at the link

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:44 AM
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19. The Yardstick
she's losing a share of her usual demographics and Obama is gaining.

from over at The Field:

Among white registered Democrats (70 percent of them in Ohio) - the demographic that the pastor-bashing and bitter-posturing was aimed at - Senator Clinton lost 24 percent (down to 53 percent in Pennsylvania).

Among African-American registered Democrats (14 percent of them in Ohio) she lost 42 percent of her previous support (down to 8 percent in Pennsylvania).

All the posturing and negativity didn’t gain her a single yard.

In fact, Senator Clinton lost ground in every one of those key foundations of her former base vote.

Whether or not the commercial media spins it that way - in her campaign’s lexicon - “doesn’t matter.”

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=1105
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:47 AM
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20. Hillary MUST win North Carolina to Remain Viable
I hope someone will start a thread about this or similiar, its the strongest bullshit protector we have, and its the truth:

Hillary MUST win North Carolina to Remain Viable

by The Bagof Health and Politics Tue Apr 22, 2008

After a 19 hour day in Pennsylvania, my thoughts.

The Bagof Health and Politics's diary :: ::
I spent the day in Pennsylvania. I won't bore anyone with the details, but I was there at 6 in the morning and left at 1:30 in the morning. The day consisted of everything under the sun--literally.

Barack Obama has a set of volunteers. They are the base of the Democratic Party. They are peace activists. They are health care activists. They are union activists. They are environmentalists. They are African Americans. They are college professors. They are college students. They are young professionals.

In my interactions with people today, I'll note that these people are very disillusioned with the all-out Rovian campaign which has been mounted by Hillary Clinton. They swear that they will not volunteer in November if Clinton is the nominee. Some are flirting with voting for him. A few are flirting with volunteering for McCain in November.

Hillary has very real problems with the base of the Democratic Party. North Carolina is chalk full of the Democratic base. If Hillary Clinton cannot win North Carolina, her appeal to the Democratic base must be questioned. Karl Rove is wrong on basically everything--but he has it right, the base has to be happy for the party to win an election.

Should Hillary Clinton lose North Carolina, it will prove that her Rovian tactics have irreparably damaged her standing with our party's base. If she continues on to the convention and wins via a Super Delegate coup, she will be the leader of a shattered party and she will preside over a defeat of historic proportions--a defeat which would make Walter Mondale look like a successful candidate.

...more at the link


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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:13 AM
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21. K&R & thank you!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:41 AM
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22. Report: Motion To Keep Polls Open Denied
Report: Motion To Keep Polls Open Denied

Group seeks to extend Philly voting hours
by kos
Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 03:18:47 PM PDT
Philly.com:

Voter Action, a national voter rights group, has asked a Philadelphia judge to extend voting hours tonight until 10 p.m., and to use paper ballots at all voting places where broken machines have been reported. The city's Board of Elections seems certain to object. The hearing is expected to begin momentarily.

John Bonifaz, Voter Action's legal director, says his organization has received about 150 complaints from Philadelphians today, a rate he says is roughly double what they've seen in primarires elsewhere. Interestingly, the leading local election watchdog, the Committee of 70, has said problems at the polls today have been relatively routine.

Update by Adam B, 6:37 pm: Motion denied. Polls will close at 8 pm.

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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/22/181712/956
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:42 AM
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23. New SD for Obama: Brad Henry (OK)
New SD for Obama: Brad Henry (OK)Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:14:53 AM PDT
http://newsok.com/article/3233776/1208941411

"Senator Obama is uniquely positioned to unite our nation and move beyond the divisiveness and partisan skirmishes that too often characterize politics as usual in Washington," said Henry, who is in the middle of his second term.

"Senator Obama and his positive message reflect the best of America," Henry said.

The Democratic governor, in a statement released by Obama's campaign, pledged to Obama his support as a superdelegate at the convention.

Obama said: "I am proud to have Governor Henry's support today as we continue to build our grassroots movement for change. ...We're fortunate to have Governor Henry's backing, and I look forward to working with him in the months ahead to bring about real change not just for Oklahomans, but all Americans."

Drip, drip, drip

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/23/71327/8093/976/501416
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:15 AM
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24. Now That The Primary Is Over In Pennsylvania...
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:22 AM
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25. The Rules of Clintonball
The Rules of Clintonball
by Hunter
Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:11:45 AM PDT
Forget the spin: the race is where it is. Clinton won Pennsylvania. The overall delegate margin has barely budged, however, and it is now even more assured that there is no reasonable scenario where Clinton can pull out a primary win absent intervention by the superdelegates.

I was never a Clinton fan, in this campaign. I have previously stated my deep discomfort with the notion that the person most deserving of the Presidency of the United States just miraculously happens to be the person married to the last Democratic President of the United States; it smacks far too much of the usual intra-Washington narcissism, and carries the strong whiff of American monarchy, something already wafting through the air after the ridiculous rise of the Boy King. At the same time, however, there seems little value in debating whether Clinton should or should not leave the race. That is entirely up to Clinton, and any candidate with a mathematical chance -- even if slim -- of pulling out a win has every right to see the race through until that last fateful day. I don't buy the notion that the campaign is hurting the Democratic party: any election that generates this level of excitement among Democratic voters is hardly a bad thing.

What bothers me, however, is the increasingly insulting quality of the campaign and surrogate spin as each successive campaign day wears on....

...Listening to Clinton campaign surrogates on television, before the PA votes ever started to trickle in, was truly painful. Suddenly one state was the only state that mattered. All those other states were merely prelude: if Clinton could eke out a victory in this state, trailing in the delegate count would no longer be significant, and it would be a brand new race, ...

...It is not enough for Obama to simply be winning the nomination according to the rules laid out in advance: no, he must win the "right" way, according to the Clinton campaign and surrogates, or it doesn't count. He has to win the "right" states. And he has to win primaries, not caucuses. And he has to "close the deal", ...

...All the spin boils down to a simple truth: Clinton now has almost no chance of winning on the delegate count. Barring Obama getting eaten by a bear, it's not going to happen, so the Clinton campaign wants the superdelegates to overturn the primary and caucus results at the convention and appoint her the rightful winner, even though she is, at this point, clearly losing. That's going to be a tough sell, if all Clinton has to offer is one state's worth of "momentum" or the rather odd logic that, since Obama has supposedly not sufficiently proven his campaign viability by kicking her completely to the curb by now, the superdelegates should instead hitch their wagons to a candidate who has been proven to be less viable than him.

....more at the link
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/23/54624/9063/994/501398

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:24 AM
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26. The Near-Triumph Of Rovism
The Near-Triumph Of Rovism

It's worth recalling what this primary came to be about, because of a self-conscious decision by the Clintons to adopt the tactics and politics of the people who persecuted and hounded them in the 1990s. It was indeed in the end about smearing and labeling Obama as a far-left, atheist, elite, pansy Godless snob fraud. That was almost all it came to be about. It was the Clintons' core message and core belief. And if anywhere would have proved its salience, it would surely have been beleaguered and depressed central and western Pennsylvania; and it would surely have worked with white ethnic voters over 50.

It did work, it seems to me. It will work, to some extent. It's valid in the sense that Rove is not stupid. But it works less and less the younger the vote is; and it is obviously losing some of its divisive salience even among the older generation. It is fading as a tool. Used by Democrats, legitimized by Democrats, embraced by Democrats, the Rove-Atwater gambits have been paid the highest compliment by the Clintons these past few weeks. But a single digit win against a young black man in a polarized race suggests that this compliment was past its sell-by date. It was an act of desperation, and one last grab back to the past. It didn't quite do what it was supposed to do. Nearly, but not quite.

The past is receding; but the future has yet to be born. This is hard labor. Necessary labor. But the direction of this country is clear, it seems to me. And heartening.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/04/the-near-triump.html

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:26 AM
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27. ** RCP National Average now DOUBLE DIGITS for Obama!!! **
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:29 AM
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28. NBC's Chuck Todd: Impossible for Hillary to catch up
NBC's Chuck Todd: Impossible for Hillary to catch up

by John Aravosis (DC) · 4/22/2008 09:18:00 PM ET · Link
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Hillary would have to win 69% to 70% of the delegates in every remaining state in order to catch Obama. He then says that if Obama and Clinton split Indiana and North Carolina on May 6, as expected, then she'd need to win 80% of the delegates in every remaining state. Basically impossible. Here's the video, it's good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwd88C25J-0

Russert just said that Obama failed to win in Texas. Uh, Tim, Obama won Texas.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/nbcs-chuck-todd-impossible-for-hillary.html
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:31 AM
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29. There's still no path to the nomination for Hillary, just a path to destruction.
There's still no path to the nomination for Hillary, just a path to destruction.
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 4/22/2008

Can someone ask Hillary Clinton how she intends to secure the nomination? And, have her explain it in real terms -- without spin, without obfuscation, without making up new rules and without pretending that she always wanted Michigan and Florida to count.

Hillary can't tell you how she wins it. She can't because there is no way she can win the nomination. But, that won't stop her because she is Hillary Clinton. I'm going to post a section of something I wrote earlier today, because it sums up the situation:

The victory in Pennsylvania has been preordained for months. Clinton can't win the nomination. I predicted last November that Clinton wouldn't be the Democratic nominee (back then, just five months ago, very few people shared that view, believe me). But, I don't think anyone imagined the process would go on so long -- or that Hillary wouldn't accept her defeat. She is going to continue her destructive ways, although, it's going to be tough considering her campaign is in the red. Clinton's campaign is running negative attack ads against Obama while it's running on fumes and not paying its bills. That says a lot about what we're dealing with. Last night, on the Daily Show, Jon Stewart asked Obama a funny, but actually prescient ,question:

At one point, Stewart asked Obama whether he worried "that you could win the nomination at the Convention and defeat John McCain in the general and, you know, go to the inauguration and Hillary would still be running?"

...more at the link
http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/theres-still-no-path-to-nomination-for.html
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:48 AM
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30. The Truth About the Florida Primary - a reminder and some lie repellent
Those poor Florida Democrats
by kos
Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 05:05:00 PM PDT
To hear the Clinton campaign and Florida Democrats tell it, they were innocent bystanders to their state's GOP in deciding to move their election date up prior to their sanctioned slot in the calendar.

The reality is much different:

Watch the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpHuQi17EaE

That's the Florida Senate Democratic minority leader Steven Geller overtly pretending to object to the new calendar, laughing about it the whole time.

Geller: The chair of the Democratic National Committee has of coursed threatened that if we move the primary to before the first Tuesday in February that they will sanction us at the Democratic National Convention. So the Democratic leader and the Democratic leader pro-tem are jointly making this motion, which we will duly show to them later, that we tried not to have the election before the first Tuesday in March.

Chair: And so Sen. Geller are you urging a negative vote or would you like us to pass this vote?

Geller : Oh no sir, we really really want this, don't we senator?

Chair: I understand. Please don't throw me into the bramble bush.

They were mocking the DNC's calendar and its rules from the beginning. This wasn't a Democratic Party dragged along by a malicious GOP. Florida Democrats wanted their state earlier in the calendar

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/1/153956/6000/791/488388
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:02 AM
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31. Reminder -Clinton Natl Co Chair protects republican congressmen in Florida
WHY IS DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ REFUSING TO HELP DEMOCRATS BEAT FAR RIGHT REPUBLICANS IN SOUTH FLORIDA? PART I

3 wingnuts being protected by Debbie Wasserman Schultz
....The bone I have to pick with her involves mostly her behavior as the co-chair of the Red to Blue program and her decision not to support Joe Garcia against her extreme right wing pal Mario Diaz-Balart (as well as the Democrats running against Mario's almost equally extremist brother, Lincoln, and the clueless Bush Regime rubber stamp Ileana Ros-Lehtinen.

Wasserman Schultz caused an uproar in the usually complacent Florida Democratic Party when she announced she would be sitting out these three races because of her great relations with the 3 wingnuts who have voted against virtually every single Democratic priority since Lil' Debbie was first elected to Congress. To try to tamp down the outrage, DCCC Executive Director Brian Wolff, who refuses to remove her from her Red to Blue position, hastily penned a meaningless endorsement of Joe Garcia and the 2 other Democrats running against Wasserman Shultz' friends, Annette Taddeo and Raul Martinez. The endorsement doesn't come with the cash Red to Blue status Wasserman Shultz is withholding. Instead the DCCC slapped up an especially pathetic and cynical ActBlue page, Turn South Florida Blue! which, as of this writing, has brought in exactly zero. I know when we add a candidate to Blue America-- as we're about to do with Joe Garcia-- we always donate ourselves. Brian Wolff brags about the support he, Nancy Pelosi, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, Majority Whip James Clyburn, Democratic Caucus Chair Rahm Emanuel, and DCCC Chair Chris Van Hollen are all giving these candidates. Talk is cheap. Let's see some action....

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-is-debbie-wasserman-schultz.html

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:31 AM
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32. Hillary's gay problem
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:32 AM by WillYourVoteBCounted
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Hillary's gay problem
by John Aravosis (DC) · 4/23/2008 09:55:00 AM ET · Link
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My friend Phil Attey asks why Obama keeps mentioning gays and lesbians in his speeches - speeches he makes to the public at large, not just gay audiences - and Hillary never does. Phil writes:

Last month, a gay Philadelphian LGBT publisher raised the issue that Senator Obama, though often addressing LGBT issues and including us in his major speeches, was not granting his publication an exclusive interview. Senator Obama quickly addressed the issue and granted an exclusive interview to the national LGBT publication, The Advocate.

Tonight, following the Pennsylvania Primary, Senator Obama once again showed his commitment to our community by including us in his address to the nation. Senator Clinton, speech, once again, did not include us, and it brings up the issue that hers never do.


Phil is right. Obama mentions us in his speeches, a lot. And yes, Hillary will say those are just words. But you know, Obama was willing to chastize his own community for their homophobia in a speech given on Martin Luther King's birthday in MLK's own church to thousands of black leaders. Those are words that matter. Here's to hoping that Hillary can find it in herself to utter the word gay (and even lesbian) in a setting that isn't limited to a gay audience.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/hillarys-gay-problem.html
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:09 AM
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33. How Hillary Loses By Winning| When is a win not a win? When the winner is Hillary Clinton.
How Hillary Loses By Winning| When is a win not a win? When the winner is Hillary Clinton.

Just When You Think They Might Be Out, They Get Pulled Back In
By Dana Milbank
Wednesday, April 23, 2008; Page A03

PHILADELPHIA

Somebody, please make it stop.

It's primary night -- again. Barack Obama is on the verge of eliminating Hillary Clinton to win the Democratic presidential nomination -- again. And Clinton -- her campaign broke and written off by the pundits -- wins. Again.

This time it's Pennsylvania -- home of Punxsutawney Phil, the rodent made famous by the movie "Groundhog Day," in which Bill Murray is forced to relive the same day, over and over. So it is with the Democratic Party in this never-ending campaign season.

...In the Hyatt ballroom, the Clinton campaign battled that view. "There'll be all this discussion about the margin, the over and under and all that stuff," Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter told the crowd, which responded with boos. "A win is a win."

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, taking the microphone next, challenged those "talking about our shrinking margin." Said Rendell: "It's 10:15 and our margin is growing." It was true -- Clinton's advantage had edged toward the magic 10-point spread ordained by the commentariat. The candidate, with her mother, husband and daughter, sounded many of the same underdog themes she uttered on earlier primary nights: "no wavering in the face of adversity," fighting for "everyone who's ever been counted out," and, of course, disproving the "pundits questioned whether Pennsylvanians would trust me."

Mostly, however, she defied Obama. "He broke every spending record in this state trying to knock us out of this race," she declared. "Well, the people of Pennsylvania had other ideas tonight."

And now, Punxsutawney Hillary and the Democrats get to do the whole thing all over again, two weeks from now.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/22/AR2008042202848.html?sid=ST2008042203224
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:23 PM
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34. kick
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:24 PM
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35. Why the two key spins “can’t close the deal” and “Only the popular vote” are breathtakingly stupid
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:26 PM
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36. The pundits and the rounding error
(((((((((( The RBC Update: The pundits and the rounding error ))))))))))

2008.04.23 01:44:30


------------------------------------------------------------------------

HRC is leading Obama by about 9.4 percentage points in
Pennsylvania. But by rounding her 54.7% up to 55%, and his
45.3% down to 45%, the media transform a single-digit victory
into a double-digit victory. (I estimate that the actual final
margin will be 9.1%, which will STILL be rounded up to 10%.)

Always round after you calculate, not before.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://WWW.samefacts.com/archives/campaign_2008_/2008/04/the_pundits_and_the_rounding_error.php
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:22 PM
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37. 1:02 PM email from Chuck Todd
an Obama supporter in NC has heard back from Chuck Todd about the media
falsely reporting a 2 digit lead for Clinton in PA.

From: Todd, Chuck D (NBC Universal)

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:02 PM

To: xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: Okay, Chuck...


It's something that ms is voicing over... With rounding (54.7 to 45.3) the

percentages turn to 10 points but we're voicing over the 9.3 fact

--------------------------

Chuck Todd

NBC News

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:23 PM
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38. PA Dept of State to update election results, remaining counties favor him.
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 01:24 PM by WillYourVoteBCounted
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:03 PM
To: Educators for Obama
Subject: Re: 8 Point win NOT 10 in PA!

I just got off the phone with PA Dept of State. They stated one district reported Senator Obama winning 20,000 votes and the HC winning a few hundred. I was contested and reviewed to find a much different vote spread. They stated Senator Obama's numbers may go up because the remaining counties favor him.

She stated the official results should be up around 4 or 5pm.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:35 PM
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39. So the RNC has higher standards than Hillary?
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
So the RNC has higher standards than Hillary?
by John Aravosis (DC) · 4/23/2008 02:17:00 PM ET · Link
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From MSNBC:
Per the RNC, the national leadership of the Republican Party has been in contact this morning with the North Carolina GOP, urging them to refrain from running the "Extreme" ad. The party says that the content of the anti-Obama ad, which references the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is "not appropriate" and "unhelpful

http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/so-rnc-has-higher-standards-than.html
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:36 PM
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40. MSNBC: "The battle for pledged delegates is over"
MSNBC: "The battle for pledged delegates is over"

MSNBC: "The battle for pledged delegates is over"
by John Aravosis (DC) · 4/23/2008 01:25:00 PM ET · Link
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From MSNBC's 'First Read':
*** We can stop the delegate math: Turning to the delegate math, if Clinton nets approximately 16 delegates out of Pennsylvania, she'll trail in the pledged battle by 150 delegates. With just 408 pledged delegates remaining, that means she'd need 68% of all pledged delegates left to overtake Obama. Now, if Obama and Clinton simply split the 187 delegates up for grabs on May 6 basically down the middle (which would be a rosy projection in Clinton's favor) and Obama's pledged delegate lead simply stayed at 150 and didn’t grow to 160 (the most likely outcome in two weeks), Clinton would need to win 85% of the then 221 remaining delegates up for grabs. 85%! As we mentioned on air last night, the battle for pledged delegates is over, Obama will win that metric and win it by some 100+ delegates.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/msnbc-battle-for-pledged-delegates-is.html
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:39 PM
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41. Thank you! K and R
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:13 PM
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42. It's the mathematical equivalent of sniper fire
"Everybody in politics lies, but they do it with such ease, it’s troubling."
by John Aravosis (DC) · 4/23/2008 12:30:00 PM ET · Link
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It's the mathematical equivalent of sniper fire. Hillary's campaign is today alleging that they overtook Obama in the popular vote last night! Of course, it isn't true, but hey, I guess it depends on what the definition of truth is. Even though Hillary is still half a million votes behind Obama, including primaries and caucuses, her campaign is of course now adding in the votes from Florida and Michigan - which were disqualified by the DNC. So, yes, if you add imaginary votes to the count then Hillary does take the lead in imaginary-land (hey, I'm more than happy to make her our party's imaginary nominee). What was David Geffen's now infamous line about the Clintons that got him into so much trouble with Hillary?

Everybody in politics lies, but they do it with such ease, it’s troubling.

As an aside, anybody else notice how quickly Hillary is willing to chuck Iowa and New Hampshire overboard? The reason Florida and Michigan got into trouble is because they moved their primaries and caucuses too far up, threatening Iowa's and New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation status. Hillary was all for Iowa and NH having that status when she wanted their votes. Now, not so much. Oh, that's the truth thing again. Sorry, I forgot. (Oh, and they also lied here, claiming that ABC validated their wacky math - ABC didn't, and called them on it.)

http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/everybody-in-politics-lies-but-they-do.html
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:41 PM
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43. EVERY state is a must win for Hillary
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Pennsylvania Results (Hillary Won The Battle, Lost The War A Long Time Ago)
As expected Hillary won Pennsylvania, but not without having Obama cut deeply into her once huge lead, despite all of her advantages in the state.

As expected, she is spinning away, completely out of touch with reality.

As expected, the media is pretty much saying the race goes on (imagine that, they ratings go on as well).

As expected, McCain and the Republicans are undoubtedly very happy that many Democrats apparently don't understand that attacking their nominee from two fronts at once probably isn't the best idea.

Hillary won Pennsylvania by a mediocre less than 9% margin, far from the blowout win she needed, but enough for the media to continue to indulge her delusions of having any chance of winning the nomination. Not that the media needed much push, they've been willfully ignoring the math for months now, while repeating Hillary's talking points like they are witty jokes they think may impress someone. Thus even on The Huffington Post there is a big headline which reads: Hillary's Next Must-Win: Indiana.
…Excuse me? Her next must-win? Let's inject some reality into that statement. EVERY state is a must win for Hillary if she wants to actually win the nomination.

…more at the link http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/04/pennsylvania-results.html
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:25 PM
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44. Rec this thread- If you think it's time for Hillary to drop out
Please participate. We're only at 558 at this point, aiming for 600 or more.

tell your friends!

Go to this thread and recommend
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5642736&mesg_id=5642736
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 04:43 PM
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45. Endorsemente Sub Thread
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 04:45 PM
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46. DNC Ostergard Super Delegate (NE) for Obama
Not yet posted in GDP if you have a thread please post
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGCVbx

LINCOLN, Neb. – Audra Ostergard, Associate Chair of the Nebraska Democratic Party and member of the Democratic National Committee, publicly announced her support for Senator Barack Obama in the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination.


“I have carefully weighed input from Democrats across Nebraska and closely watched results from primaries and caucuses across the country,” said Ostergard. “There are compelling arguments for supporting both candidates, but my decision came down to what’s best for our country and for Nebraska. In that regard, I am confident in my decision to endorse Senator Obama. He has a proven ability to activate Democrats in Nebraska.”

“The gravity of this decision has weighed on me heavily,” Ostergard added. “I don’t want to use my position to influence the process, but at the same time I agree with Howard Dean that our party needs a nominee. Senator Obama’s prohibitive lead in pledged delegates was a major factor in my decision.”

Ostergard, 41, is a publishing representative in Lincoln. By virtue of her position as Associate Chair in the Nebraska Democratic Party, she is a member of the Democratic National Committee and therefore automatically a delegate to the Democratic Party’s National Convention in August.

All six of Nebraska’s Unpledged Party Leaders and Elected Official Delegates (also known as “superdelegates”) have now endorsed Senator Obama. U.S. Senator Ben Nelson, Committeman Vince Powers, Committeewoman Kathleen Fahey, and Committeman Frank La Mere all endorsed prior to Nebraska’s February 9th Caucus. NDP Chairman Steve Achelpohl announced his support last week.

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47. Gov. Brad Henry SuperDelegate (OK) for Obama
By Michael McNutt
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Gov. Brad Henry, who said earlier he would not endorse a Democratic presidential candidate until this summer's national convention, announced this morning he is supporting Barack Obama.


The endorsement means Obama, a U.S. senator from Illinois who finished second in Oklahoma's presidential primary earlier this year, picked up one more superdelegate.

"Senator Obama is uniquely positioned to unite our nation and move beyond the divisiveness and partisan skirmishes that too often characterize politics as usual in Washington,” said Henry, who is in the middle of his second term.

"Senator Obama and his positive message reflect the best of America,” Henry said.

The Democratic governor, in a statement released by Obama's campaign, pledged to Obama his support as a superdelegate at the convention.
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48. Sheryl Crowe endorses Obama
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49. 50 key Edwards supporters in NC endorse Obama
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