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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:46 PM
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1694-1556. She's still 150 behind. Why do we keep forgetting that?
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:03 AM by jazzjunkysue
She's not predicted to win much else in this primary. Obama is.

HRC people: You're still losing. Better hold the gloating: This was a racist vote against Obama, not a support of Hillary. I have friends in PA. This does not mean what you think it means, and the remaining super delegates know that. PA delegates: HRC 52, Barack: 46.

This "win" amounted to 6 delegates, and that's not much when you're behind by 150.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/candidates/#val=1918
Updated: (Link added)
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:47 PM
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Willful Ignorance is a powerful thing....
Hillary is FAIL
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:47 PM
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1. Because if we DON'T forget it then the race is over.
It MUST be forgotten!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:47 PM
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2. We can't because you & kos & buzzflash won't stop talking about it.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:14 AM
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20. God forbid they should be telling the TRUTH
I guess you'd rather hear a bunch of fluff bullshit about how Hillary can simply coast through the rest of the primaries, maybe pick up a win here or there, and somehow convince enough SDs to flock to her side?
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:49 PM
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3. 67%
Thats the average win she must have for all remaining primaries


say it with me now...SixtySeven Percent
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:38 AM
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24. 67% wins, with no money in the bank.
And a maxed out support base. I think she is staying in for a graceful exit, raising enough funds to pay off debts but not seriously campaigning from this point. It is hard to imagine that she can be so insulated from her real position...
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:49 PM
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4. Hey if race was the case we can build from here at 45 percent he did real well.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:49 PM
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5. Oh let em gloat.
We will have our chance again soon - and rather then gloat, I presume we will invite everyone to unify around Obama - our nominee.

May 6 will look and feel very different.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:58 PM
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17. Help me. I need to know how to welcome people who willingly back a proven liar.
I can understand ignorance, maybe voters out there haven't seen the Tuzla video for example - but people here? Denying reality? How am I supposed to welcome with open arms people who have no problem supporting an undeniable liar like clinton?

I'm asking this seriously, because lying is HUGE for me. I hate it more than anything, and willful liars are scum of the earth in my eyes.

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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:44 AM
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25. Call it hysteria
Really - it's groupthink.

They have bought the spin, but in reality - hate Shrub as much as we do.

You will be more forgiving when Obama wins the nomination.

Just my prediction. :hi:
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:50 PM
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6. So the black people who voted for Obama were voting based on race then too eh?
You're so full of shit this thread is brown.
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:52 PM
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Uh, yeah.
Why wouldn't they? It's a historic opportunity to put a black man in the White House.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:53 PM
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10. This is straight from the top. An Obama crony on CNN is saying the same thing
Obama won 96% of the black male vote and 92% of the black vote overall. That is because he is the greatest politician ever. When Clinton gets 50+1 percent of the Latino or white vote (she got 60% in PA) that is racism. 60% is racist. 96-4? Race had nothing to do with it. He is just that good. :sarcasm: Obamanation can't have it both ways but I "hope" they keep it up because they are turning off many voters with this. Just look at Obama's numbers since Wisconsin.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:51 PM
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7. "She is not predicted to win much else"
That is false. Where is the delegate gain number coming from? RCP is showing a gain of 15. Anyway, the delegate scheme is rigged and does not operate on the principle of one person, one vote. Some districts had thrice as many delegates as others and these districts went heavily for Obama.

This win was big. An Obama surrogate on CNN is already blaming racism for Obama losing yet another big state. That is a pathetic excuse. Whenever he loses it is because of racism. When he wins he "transcends" race. When Clinton gets 60% of the white vote it is racism; when Obama gets 92% of the black vote it is because Obama is such a great candidate. This kind of nonsense is turning off voters and this is partly why he has tanked with whites and Latinos since Wisconsin. Do voters want four years of this crap? Apparently not...
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:33 AM
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23. She's broke. She's never going to make it to the convention.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:52 PM
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8. Big picture and long view--barring the unforseen, the SD's will not
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:52 PM by wienerdoggie
snatch away the nomination from Obama--unless they want serious, serious trouble.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:54 PM
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11. What "trouble" would that be?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:55 PM
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13. Trouble. It won't look good.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:53 PM
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9. I haven't forgotten for one day
I wish the rest of Obama's supporters would remember and repeat it on an hourly basis until Hillary hits the highway. We're electing delegates and she can't close the gap.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:54 PM
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12. shrug
I have no idea why Dems have not decided on one candidate after all these months. It's pretty amazing a overwhelming consensus hasn't formed behind one of these two people. It's even more amazing the party leaders haven't been able to make a consensus. In general such races are horrible for the party that runs them. On the other hand running an old out of touch candidate while you party has run the country into the ground has never been the path to victory either. At this point I'm convinced no one will win the presidency.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:55 PM
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14. Because we know Florida and Michigan will be seated. nt
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:12 AM
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18. So, what are tomorrow's lottery numbers?
Come on. You predict the future, don't you? I need to make a mortgage payment.
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:56 PM
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15. Don't forget Guam
She can get up to 9 delegates there!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:14 AM
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21. Guam is not to be forgotten!
Thanks for the reminder!
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:56 PM
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16. Many of us haven't forgotten
I'm not going to jump up and down on her grave, but Hillary's been out of the delegate race since TX/OH where she needed huge margins of victory to have any chance of catching up in terms of pledge delegates. Now her only hope is to smear Obama badly enough that the Supers think he wont be able to win the General.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:13 AM
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19. Thanks
I almost forgot.

Obama is still unelectable and Hillary is gold. Thanks!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:15 AM
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22. I forgot the "new math"
Mea Culpa.

52 + 46 = 158.

Damn. I need to go back to College.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:45 AM
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26. because their are 794 Super delegates who don't vote until August
just a guess
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:46 AM
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27. This is exactly why she should drop out NOW!
She can't make up the difference!
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:09 AM
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28. A.M. Update: 1714-1584: 120 spread.
PA delegates: 71 95: 24 gain, if CNN superdelegates are to be believed.
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