unc70
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:03 AM
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Clinton's speech had many Methodist allusions |
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I was struck by the very subtle touchstones in Clinton's speech to her Methodist background and religion. I first noticed it when she talked of being entrusted with this "charge". The "Will you ..." sequence near the end has parallels in the liturgy for joining and supporting the denomination and the local church. Several sequences echo well-known hymns (e.g. "Because of ...").
Those are from memory. There might be others. I would expect this speech to resonate with many people in NC. And it seemed very natural for her to speak in those terms.
Overall, I thought her speech was better than most of hers; Obama's was lackluster. I suspect that Obama had earlier believed the exit polls which predicted a 4% win by Clinton, not a 10% beating.
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:05 AM
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1. I'm sure many of the very concerned Clinton supporters |
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who chastised Obama for sounding like a preacher will no doubt share their concern for Clinton's use of religious symbolism in her speech.
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:05 AM
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2. Correction; 8.6% loss. |
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New York Times Editorial to Superdelegates means that Hillary will be forced out of the race, because she doesn't know when to quit.
Watch and listen.
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:33 AM
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5. Thought you said you were going to bed. NYT written before results came in. |
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Watch what is about to happen in NC; Repubs are going to use Obama to attack the Dem candidates for governor (both have endorsed Obama).
The NYT editorial appears to have been written early in the evening when the exit polls indicated a 3-4% win by Clinton which would have been viewed by many as a defeat for Clinton.
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:05 AM
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3. That's exactly who she was reaching out to,have you read David Kuo's book? |
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If not you should pick it up
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:41 AM
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7. Don't need to read his book. Obvious to those of us in NC |
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I have read a few excerpts and some of his blogs. Not really that impressed with his understanding.
I am currently reading The Paradox of Tar Heel Politics by Rob Christensen and recommend it.
Since I am quite familiar with liberal Methodist and NC populist rhetoric and language, I think her speech might be quite effective with NC voters.
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:08 AM
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4. It's called "a pitch". It has more to do with Ron Popeil than the Methodists. |
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:35 AM
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6. If she did not mention mayo, it's not Methodist, just typical religious stuff. |
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:50 AM
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8. What are you talking about? Mayo Clinic? |
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In NC, it would be more likely to connect Methodists with Duke than with "mayo". Or even with Duke's Mayo!
No idea what you meant. My Methodist roots in NC are rather deep; Bishop Asbury regularly stayed with my family.
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