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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:28 AM
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What does Pennsylvania tell you?
It tells me that the Republicans only have one voice to offer America, and they've been listening to it for the last 28 years.

Fight all the way Hillary and Barack, you only strengthen our Democracy!


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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:36 AM
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1. Hillary's comments yesterday sounded strangely familiar to me
kind of NEOCON like?

She won't get my vote, that's moot point though, because she's not going to capture the nomination. :hi:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:38 AM
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2. We can kick republican ass?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:41 AM
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3. There are racists in PA, dumb poor people and scared old ladies
Thats's what I learned about PA during the last 7 weeks ..

disclaimer.. there are also nice , normal people there, but not enough of them voted :)
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:55 AM
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5. A majority of PA Democrats are all of those nasty words you hurled?
Hillary actually took postgraduates.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:16 PM
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18. I've gotten used to a lot of trash talking about my home state here as of late....
and let me tell you that it comes from mostly ignorant BASTARDS who have never set foot here...thats right....IGNORANT FUCKING BASTARDS
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:58 AM
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6. and the rest of them have left the state......
those are the smart ones.....I know...I AM one who left.....
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:13 AM
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7. Nice way to talk about your fellow Democrats
That is great display of unity.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:15 AM
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8. Smacks of "elitism".
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 04:59 PM
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14. Yeah, kinda like when Hillary suporters call Obama supporters
elitist, Obamatons, Obamabots, cult members. No one side owns the rights on unifying the party. Fact is Hillary supporters have done their best to call Obama supporters as many names as possible, and when they ran out of those they made some up.

Like you said, great display of unity.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:27 PM
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15. Every time I reply to a nasty name-calling post that I can
see in black and white, some Obama supporter chimes in with, "Hillary's supporters do it! They do it more! They did it first!"

And you wonder why some of us think you are childish!

There are more Obama supporters on this board. There are more name-callers here supporting Obama. The posts that call Clinton supporter names outnumber the ones calling Obama names by about eighty to twenty percent.

Is that an exact figure? No. But I can look at this thread and see nasty hate being spewed against anyone who did not vote for Obama. I can look at the front page and see the number of people recommending and kicking pure hate. And yet your candidate is the one who TALKS about unity. It is HIS buzzword.

Considering how much I do for this party, I should not subject myself to the hate I see on this website. But I believe that my side deserves some representation here, too.

So open your eyes and look at what is really being posted on this site. And grow up or shut up.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:33 PM
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16. At least you prove PA. doesn't have the franchise on "dumb".
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:13 PM
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17. Good point. n/t
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:45 AM
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4. It did as expected. Thank you everyone who worked for PA
On to bigger and better things.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:18 AM
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9. It tells me that Obama was too nice to Hillary.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:30 AM
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10. It tells me Obama was incredibly lucky to dodge a lopsided defeat in Florida
That's the typical 2-of-3 trio with November electoral significance -- Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. Obama was rejected by 10 in Ohio, roughly 8-9 in Pennsylvania tonight, and in Florida, at any date of a full primary, he would have been thumped by similar margin, if not more decisive. The demographics are horrendous for Obama in Florida.

Imagine that theme framed by the media, Obama in the gutter in all three states, and super delegates increasingly shaken. Plus, a Florida destruction would have altered the delegate count along with the popular vote, even before we get to supers.

You can't understate how fortunate Obama has been, to avoid Florida and Michigan.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:34 AM
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11. Pennsylvania tells me that even with a blank check and the corporate media on his side, Obama
doesn't have what it takes to win the GE and that to nominate him would be political suicide for the Democratic Party.

I don't believe we can win in November without a unity ticket or an entirely different candidate. Together, they have the entire Democratic vote in their pocket, plus a decent block of Independents and a handful of Repub converts. Separate, the numbers just don't add up to ensure victory and this country cannot survive another Republican administration -- although, I must say, I really wish they would once, just once, have to take responsibility for their disasters and not leave it up to us to clean up.

I really wish it weren't coming down to this.
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 04:36 AM
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12. This.....
It tells me that us Democrats need to re-do the way we do Primaries.

Whether you are an Obama supporter or a Hillary supporter it doesn't neglect the fact that we have had one primary of one State in almost 2 months that at the end amounted to about a handful of delegates one way or another. Thats 7 fragging weeks McCain has had to dig, hunt, and find stuff to use against a Democrat unchallenged with all the time his team needs on their side. People don't get disenfranchised they get too old to vote waiting for their primary to come to town. What good does it do to finally sit a nominee 15 minutes before the General Election polls open up? California, Florida, Texas, Ohio, Michigan, New York...the large population States...they're done...Guam ain't? Here we sit, a year into the primary season, it takes 2024 delegates to sit a nominee and - Hillary and Obama both have about 6 or 7 delegates a piece? We have a Republican to beat and we simply don't have the time to add one State's delegate count every four or five months. I don't think that will get it done.

Let me hush up.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 04:56 PM
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13. Maybe that should be another thread?
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 05:05 PM by ColbertWatcher
I'll start it now...and here it is.
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