KansasVoter
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:48 AM
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Why does CNN and MSNBC show a 10 point win when is is 8.5??? |
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Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 06:48 AM by KansasVoter
Anyone know why their web sites show a 10 point win 55-44? It is at BEST 54-46?
One point matters!
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:49 AM
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1. Obama said Gore won in 2000. They don't like to be called on their shoddy journalism. nt |
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:53 AM
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2. Let's all send them the link to PA election returns! It's 54.3 to 45.8. That's 8.5%! |
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Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 06:58 AM by flpoljunkie
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:01 AM
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MSNBC - 212-664-4444 CNN - 404-827-1700
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:05 AM
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6. They're doing it too! Boy, do they really want the Clintons back in the White House! |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:25 AM
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15. Maybe they want a Repub and Hillary is their preference to run against. |
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That's been obvious with Buchanan and Scarborough on MSNBC. They just love Hillary.
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Wed Apr-23-08 09:29 AM
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24. Scarborough and Buchanan absolutely want Hillary Clinton as our Dem nominee-so bad they can taste it |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:08 AM
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7. The official state site is WRONG - this is from Kos .... |
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Update: Okay, as pointed out in the comments, the AP's numbers jibe with the county's own numbers. So it looks like the PA DoS screwed up. That puts us at:
Clinton: 54.69 Obama: 45.31
That's a difference of 9.38 percent which, if you're going to round, would round down to 9 percent, not 10 percent. That is, unless we decide we're averse to odd number splits.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:26 AM
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18. I'm reading in articles "about 10, which is what she needed"... |
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...more than the 4-5 points the exit polls and punidts were predicting.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:11 AM
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11. Bastards! They are actively woring to keep HRC campaign alive. |
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Making thenews so they can report it.
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:55 AM
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3. Fuzzy math. They round up. Waaaay up. |
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Saying she won by 10 makes it easier for them to pretend she's viable.
And they never let facts get in the way of the billshit they peddle.
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:56 AM
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4. Regardless, it is 10 delegates. That is all, a net of 10 for Hillary. |
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She is now 130 behind Obama, with no more "big state" strongholds left.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:09 AM
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8. CNN: "about 10 percentage points" |
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Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 07:09 AM by godai
They apparently have decided to round up the 8.5% to 10%. Knowing this they say 'about 10%' to show how 'accurate' they are being. It's like the Clinton campaign is writing the headlines and feeding the talking points to the MSM. They've probably also heard from the Obama campaign and justify their spin with the word 'about'. ABC just says 10% (no surprise there) and CBS lists 55/45 (not correct unless you round off the actual numbers).
I often wonder who decides how news is spun. How does the entire MSM 'get the word' as to the latest talking points? It will be interesting to see how KO breaks through this nonsense tonight. He had his arms folded against his chest last night as Tweety was spinning loudly and wildly for Clinton last night.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:10 AM
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9. The media has been biased in Hillarys favor from the start of this thing. |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:12 AM
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12. SEE ABOVE- KOS SAYS THE STATE SITE IS WRONG ... |
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C'mon people, how many times do we have to go over this? There's a county that the state site has incorrect results for- the county's numbers match the AP's numbers but not the official state site.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:11 AM
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10. its actually 9.3, so 9 if they are going to round |
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just like I predicted - how do you like me now...
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:13 AM
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13. The same reason they keep |
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reporting Hillary won Texas.
They aren't in the business of reporting facts. They are in the business of promoting the agenda of the Corporations that own them.
They want Hillary to be the Democratic nominee.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:22 AM
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14. It's under 9 points, and YES, they are purposefully misrepresenting to give her double digits |
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That's really all you need to know about MSM to know they are misrepresenting the outcome to further their agenda.
She's dedicated to hobbling Obama in the general, so she can run again in 2012, and msm is dedicated to helping her do it.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:25 AM
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16. Craven intentional error, since "double digits" has been their mantra |
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Given the fact that the MSM has been making such a big deal about the Double Digits, there's no doubt they paid close attention to this, and intentional rounded inaccurately.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:25 AM
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17. Because 10 is what Hillary said she needed |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:29 AM
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19. Close enough for journalism, I guess. |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:29 AM
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20. I think that there is also some truth in |
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Chuck Todd saying that if Clinton wins the nomination, then (despite this being a huge year for the Democrats) McCain gets to run more as the "change" candidate, where as if Obama gets the nomination, he has to be the conservative. Obviously, the MSM is going to be for McCain in the Fall, and not just because of corporations, etc. McCain gives the press so much access to him, that they get protective of it. Hillary Clinton traditionally does not have a good relationship with the press (I remember Tucker Carlson saying "They call people up and threaten them! Are we supposed to be surprised that they get bad press!" I know it's Tucker, but it is worth mentioning.) Likewise, Obama does not give the media as much access as McCain does. So WHAT THE FUCK is the point of getting all of that good old McCain access if you can't do any real reporting? They want to keep those relationships in tact I guess.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:31 AM
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First, as pointed out, the state's numbers are different than CNN and apparently CNN's are correct.
Second, its nine percent if you don't round the individual totals but round the difference.
On the other hand, if you round the individual numbers, its 55/45.
I have to say, as an Obama supporter, a lot of the posts on this thread sound very whiny.
Pennsylvania is done. On to NC and Indiana. Stop wallowing and whining.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:38 AM
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22. It doesn't matter. The net delegates are the key |
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and despite the hoopla and spin, the results bring the end game closer which is that the Clinton path to pledged delegates is further away. The way they will try to win is bullying as it always has been since they realized they are in a fight.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:48 AM
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23. Because Hillary told them to, she needs the spread. |
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