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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:55 AM
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Suppose Obama limps across the finish line . . .
Losing the remaining primaries (except NC) but still getting the nod from the SD's. Is he damaged goods in the GE? Does it hurt him in the GE if he can't win in a convincing fashion down the stretch of the primaries?
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:56 AM
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1. why don't you just wait and see what happens...
...super delegates have to vote their conscience - let them
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:58 AM
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2. Obama is not limping, he is still trotting full speed ahead. PA changed nothing
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:02 AM
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5. Imagine for a moment what an undeclared super delegate is thinking this morning
PA did change the race: it made it muddier and provoked more questions about future electibility in the general and showed hardening divisions in the Party.

We saw the odds that we will actually see a deadlocked Convention increase.



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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:04 AM
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7. no it didn't, she need to win in high double digits, she didn't do that
8.5 is not a double digit lead even...the correct count is at the PA website. The media is spinning the 10% for ratings.

She needed close to 20% to remain viable. She failed.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:19 AM
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9. I suggest to you that those supers that are still undeclared are not happy
about the PA results because it shows that Barack Obama, despite a huge money advantage, huge grassroots organization, cannot convince traditional Democratic voters; he charms voters.

If you were uncommitted prior to PA results....there still is no reason to committ.

And that's the danger.

Deadlocked convention....here we come.

My 2 cents for Obama is to stop talking about what his election would signify and spend more time talking about how, until very recently, he was an average American and how he uderstands their concerns in his gut.

His campaign is too caught up in "the transformational aspect" of his campaign.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:58 AM
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3. That's my fear
I am afraid if he, like you said, sits on a lead and limps across the finish line, he will be in bad shape for the general, and that's the last thing I as an Obama supporter want to see. I don't know what the solution is, but he has to do something to change the game. Hopefully he can win Indiana, though I am less optimistic about that than a lot of people.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:00 AM
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4. He's got the western states locked up, so that won't happen.
Indiana is a probable. We'll probably cede West Virginia and Kentucky to Hillary. They seem less open to a person of color, to put it nicely.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:02 AM
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6. he won't lose Oregon. He'll win it by double digits, just like
NC, and he stands a good chance of winning IN. He's not limping; he's marching inexorably toward the finish line, with poor hilly, gasping and limping behind him.
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:47 AM
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13. Marching?
I analogize to a golf tournament. Obama has a big lead going into the final round. But he's making bogeys instead of birdies on Sunday. And while he may still win the tournament with those bogeys, it doesn't make for a resounding win.

To the average voter in November (not DU Obama supporters), does this leave a negative impression of Obama?

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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:51 AM
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14. Chuck Todd claimed Hillary has a shot in Oregon if she has money to spend there. nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:56 AM
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15. she doesn't. Todd knows it's over- as do most of the pundits
they have a vested interest in a horse race, but she just didn't win by enough yesterday.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:08 AM
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8. He won't be llimping, he'll be sprinting
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 07:09 AM by bowens43
and he is certainly less damaged then clinton. She came into this thing damaged to the point that no reasonable person could believe she had a shot in the GE. She is after bush, the most hated politician in America. She never had a chance. She was DOA.

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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:25 AM
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10. The only one I see limping to the convention is HRC
Obama is still ahead in delegates, popular votes and money. Besides NC, he is also widely favored to win OR, SD and MT. And Indiana is a dead heat right now. I don't see any plausable way for HRC to move ahead of Obama before all the contests are over.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:27 AM
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11. We are moving closer and closer to a
joint ticket.

And it's looking like Clinton/Obama this morning.

The bottom line is that we will win in November!:woohoo:
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CK dexter Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:27 AM
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12. Will Hillary win the GE if the finish line is dragged back to her?
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