I called it exactly right: BLOWOUT. Obama is TOAST!!!

[Greenwood]

I told everyone it would be a blow out. Double Digit win.

Now is the time for ALL Democrats to tell Obama thanks for what he has done but IT IS TIME for him to move to the side as Democrats want to win in November.

Can Obama play some role in the 2008 election? Yes, of course. But, he is NOT a national candidate and time for him (and those who support him) to move to the side.

Hillary gives us the best chance to WIN and I think, finally, the media has changed their tune and is now going to start saying it.

I called it EXACTLY right!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. but it's 9.4%

[TankLV]

21. wrong - it's over ten percent...

[beezlebum]

26. nope.

the official percentages are 54.7 and 45.3. they are being rounded to appear to be in clinton's favor- 55 to 45, which gives us 10%, but the proper rounding is more like:
54.7 - 45.3 =9.4 rounded down to 9.

single digit win.

[Buzz Clik]

63. Cough up the numbers, Isaac Newton. Show us the math.

[DemVet]

2. Buyer's Remorse is evident in states he already "won"

[Joe the Revelator]

7. Yes, Obama having the largest lead of the cycle in national polls really supports your therory

Dummy.

[wileedog]

Which is why he continues to wrack up donations at a record pace

Clearly people continue to give money to candidates they regret voting for.

And where do you even get that logic from one vote in one state anyway? How does the opinion in PA reflect what people are feeling now in Texas or VA?

[DemVet]

65. Fools and their money are soon departed.

[Hepburn]

68. It's "parted...."

...duh. "Fools and their money are soon parted." An example would be anyone stupid enough to still be donating to the Queen Loser HilLIARy.

[Butch350]

76. I'm Gonna Donate More...

Cash to Barack, then some more, then some more, then some more, then some more, then some...

I want to help bury Hillary in debt. She can't beat all of us UNITED behind BARACK!

"Never Give Up - Never Surrender" !

[shadowknows69]

8. You've gone around and polled these states?

He's up double digits nationally, but you knew that right?

[Shae]

89. Why do they never answer those questions?

Isn't it strange? They never do.

[yourguide]

12. Buyers remorse is evident at the NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23wed1.html?_r=2&ref=opinion&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

[cali]

16. really? evidence?

and sorry pulling shit out of your butt isn't evidence. Oh yeah, did you hear that Gov Henry endorsed Obama today? And hilly won OK. Tough shit the SDs think she's a loser.

[DemVet]

67. Sounds like you had a bad night.

[Butch350]

83. 67. Sounds like you had a bad night.

Congrats to your candidate - you had ONE good night.

[democrattotheend]

53. How so?

Have you seen polls in states he won showing Clinton doing better against McCain? Has he tanked in the national polls? And why is "won" in quotes?

[Hepburn]

64. LOL....

...like Calif that would most likely go for Obama now?

Yeah, right...looks like she cannot win the big states...:eyes:

[formernaderite]

72. while I am an obama supporter

I am not immune to the fact he needed to show he could win swing states. Bottom line this contest will go on for a while.

[yourguide]

3. You MIGHT want to check the PA election site

looking closer to 8 point this morning.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd...HRC couldnt close the deal last night. Her loyal subjects knew she needed 64%, they didnt give it to her.

Sorry, she needed a big win, 55% even if the number stands is not 64%.

[TankLV]

25. Nope - according to all the major news outlets this morning - it's over TEN percent...

HAHAHAHAHAHA...

[beezlebum]

34. aahahhhh, you're going by the major

corporate news outlets...no wonder...are you caricaturing the people who watch it? if so, funny.

i never watch "major news outlets." I pretty much figure that everything they say is opposite of reality...

[Orsino]

35. 9.38 per CNN.

8.6 per Pennsylvania's official-unofficial results.

[Terran]

58. Hmm, check Raw Story...

They report 9%.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :eyes:

[Ganja Ninja]

84. Why go by the PA Department of State when you can rely on the

media? They would never lie or spin anything would they?
:dunce: :crazy: :silly: :banghead:

[guyanakoolaid]

4. Doesn't everybody "move to the side" when they have an insurmountable lead?

:crazy:

[Spider Jerusalem]

5. Actually, you didn't, it was something less than nine percent.

And that isn't a blowout; it's in line with predictions. Clinton still cannot win the race for delegates. You can quit being self-congratulatory.

[tekisui]

6. Onion worthy Satire!

[BeyondGeography]

9. This is your brain on toast

[C_U_L8R]

10. Hillary's so broke

the bank asked for their calendar back.

[mmonk]

11. You forgot your sarcasm thingy.

[boobooday]

13. There are many double-digit numbers above ten.

All of them, in fact.

[cali]

14. LOL. Wow, are you delusional! Impressively so.

It wasn't a blowout. She won by 9 percent. That's not double digits. She netted just a handful of delegate. She's still done. Governor Henry endorsed him today. More SDs will follow in the coming days. She fucked herself with the negative crap and blowing her money on Penn and pals. She'll lose by double digits in NC and OR. She can't catch him in either pledged delegates or popular vote, and shortly she'll be behind in SDs.

She's done, dear. A political dead ducky.

[TankLV]

28. She won by over TEN percent...

sorry to burst your bubble...

obama has PEAKED - it's all downhill for him from now on - hopefully...and thankfully...

[ScarletSniper]

40. Crack is bad. Put down thepipe and come to the light.

[ruggerson]

46. not you too

you're actually doing this 9% routine? I thought you had more gray matter than that.

[cali]

whether it sugars off to 9 or 10 is immaterial. I thought you were

smart enough to realize she needed a much stronger showing in PA- and smart enough to realize that the curtain is coming down.

[underpants]

15. It is a blowout

She just doesn't get it yet

[izzie]

17. I thought he still had the high number in votes?

I wonder what the SD will do? Must be hard on these 'old white men' to pick either of these two. They do seem to like to keep our govt. in that all old white mans playing field. One hopes the Dem. cam move it ahead some what. Times are not what they were.

[rocktivity]

18. For your future reference

31 plus-point margin of victory = blowout for Hillary

30 points = win for Hillary

10 - 29 points = wash for Hillary

1 - 9 points = blow to Hillary

You're welcome.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Bigleaf]

19. You think the media blowing smoke up Hillarys ass because she is a better candidate? Get out much?

He should quit when he leads in every measure? Okeedokee.

:wtf:

[baldguy]

20. She needed 20+ points to stay in. She got 10.

IT'S OVER. SHE LOST.

[OneBlueSky]

22. there is no way this nation will ever elect Hillary Clinton president . . . n/t

.

[TankLV]

23. Obama has PEAKED - it's all downhill for him from now on!!!

GO HILLARY!!!

America won last nite...!!!

[cali]

32. lol. Governor Henry endorsed Obama this morning

have fun as the SD endorsements keep coming in for Obama. A 9 pt win just won't cut it, crankytank. She's done. stick in fork in hilly..

[ScarletSniper]

39. Yeah..that's why he picked up another super delegate this morning. lol

[Terran]

59. Heh. And how big is his lead in NC right now?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/03/north-carolina-primary-po_n_94955.html

9%. Oh yeah, he's peaked alright. :eyes:

[last_texas_dem]

24. Your definition of "blowout" is eerily similar to Bush's definition of "mandate."

[myrna minx]

29. That's exactly what I thought. n/t

[npincus]

27. you're spinning like a centrifuge!

HRC hasn't dented Obama's delegate lead w/ a mere 10%. Try again.

[GihrenZabi]

33. LOL!

What was the delegate count last night?

All that matters. She can't catch him, he'll make up the popular vote in other States, the SD's won't pull this from him.

All she's doing is slashing and burning to run in '12. I can't wait for Obama to win the whole shebang - all her chickens will come home to roost in a BIG way.

[PatGund]

77. Agreed

No amount of wishful thinking will make this other than what it was - a wash for Clinton. He forced her to spend money she didn't have, and he took a 20+ point lead down to less than 10 points.

On a side note, Seig Zeon! ;-)

[jr7]

30. Obama is TOAST!!!

Not so fast. Obama is still way ahead in the delegate count and the popular vote. Plus I heard that Pen's demographics weighed heavily toward clinton. That is not the demographic of the upcoming states.

[PVnRT]

31. Wow, if 10 is a blowout, I guess 5 really is a mandate

[lojasmo]

36. 9.4 is only double digits in clintonland.

She did NOTHING to make up her delegate deficit.

[ScarletSniper]

37. ha ha fail!

[greguganus]

38. Moran. n/t

[RBInMaine]

41. A "blowout" when she was ahead by 20 points six weeks ago???

[GoneOffShore]

42. You forgot something

The :sarcasm: tag.

[RBInMaine]

43. Another DELUSIONAL HillFAN.

[NC_Nurse]

44. I bet you claim 10 inches too.

;-) Not all of us are math-impaired, ya know.

[Labors of Hercules]

45. interestingly delusional...

The chapter on percentages a little confusing for you, was it?

[Greenwood]

48. Media is now turning. I called it on here and it IS happening!!

Hillary will be the next President of the United States!

The thing is it is now IMPERITIVE that Obama supporters SUPPORT Senator Clinton and NOT make this thing ugly.

[Terran]

60. Check the New York Times this AM

They sure did turn. Righty-o.

[Labors of Hercules]

73. So you think seeing a child's disappointment is helpful?

I trust children. They can recognize honesty and integrity a hell of a lot better than we jaded adults can. And were I thinking of voting for Hillary, just seeing their disappointment would make me pause to reconsider.

[Terran]

81. Sorry, don't know what you're referring to.

I was referring to the op-ed piece about the crappy quality of the PA campaign, which mostly blames the Clinton campaign. The comment was meant to show that there is no "media turning" in favor of Clinton all of a sudden.

[sshan2525]

47. Cognitive dissonance.....

at best. Insanity at worst. It is well known that one example of insanity is to do something, get a result that you don't like but keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. Nothing that happened last night changes the fact that Obama continus to lead the delegate count and Hillary's chances of winning the nomination are slim to none. I congratulate her and her supporters but you're going to need a miracle to get the nomination. Carpe diem, though.

[NeedleCast]

49. Hahaha, Your Dillusions of Grandure are Cute

Yeah, time for the front runner to step down.

[BlooInBloo]

50. Clinton supporters have only a passing acquaintance with the truth.

[dionysus]

51. phhhhhhhtt *cough cough cough*

lee, lee, lee....
:rofl:

[TorchTheWitch]

52. The OFFICIAL number is 8.6 according to the PA state gov

Who bloody cares what the MSM says? The OFFICIAL goverment count is all that matters as it has always been. I can't believe there are people actually taking the word of the MSM over the state government official tally. It was certainly no blowout, and it wasn't even favorable to Clinton. She was supposed to win by +20 here and didn't get even half that (though close to half... whoopdie doo... nothing to celebrate in that).

This is NOT good news for Clinton, and her supporters need to realize that and quit the jumping up and down and buckle down and work like hell for the remaining states or it's all going to be over for her, and her supporters will be standing around in their party hats wondering what the hell happened. She did well enough not to throw in the towell yet... that's all. Now is the time to be relieved by what is essentially nothing more than a reprieve and get to work, not tap the keg and do the victory dance.

[SeaLyons]

54. Obama got a thumping in PA

He cannot win the necessary states to win the White House.

Hillary has proven herself. She was outspent 3-1, no media support, and she did it! SHE DID IT!!!

Hillary for President!!

[Adelante]

55. The only BLOWOUT is Hillary out the window

She needed 15-20% and PA didn't give it to her.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

56. Ha ha ah

Wait... you're serious? That's even funnier. :rofl:

Winning by 9% is a blowout when she was leading a state by nearly 30% 6 weeks ago?

[AllexxisF1]

57. Keep reaching.

Penn State just released the final numbers 8.9% ....ILMAOL.

[Th1onein]

61. Huh? You want the FRONTRUNNER to QUIT?

What's wrong with you?

You're asking the frontrunner in the primary to quit. And, you're asking him to surrender to a person who invigorates the Republican base, who is badly in debt and has no money for the general election, and no one to get more from, while Obama has millions in surplus and can go back to the base to get more.

Huh?

[Hepburn]

62. It's less than 9 pts...and she blew a 20 pt lead....

...that's a blow out??? :rofl:

[Buzz Clik]

66. Irrelevant. She defines the outcome, not the numbers.

It's a death watch now. When Hillary comes out of denial, this will be over.

Patience.

[butchcjg]

69. Um, he's winning...

Why would he drop out? Hillary won ONE state more. That's it. He's won MANY MORE states than her, MANY MORE DELEGATES, and MUCH MORE POPULAR VOTES! (Not to mention the caucuses)

[Ganja Ninja]

70. Currently the State elections site says only an 8.6 % win.

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

She lost ground over the last 3 weeks. She started out at 20% and won by only 8.6%. Less of a blow out and more like saved by the bell.

[zulchzulu]

71. Obama has won 30 out of 44 states...so piss off, pops

Obama shaved 10+% off of Hillary's lead in Pennsylvania. She gained 10 more delegates than him and is still impossibly behind him by 150+ delegates.

You're implying that if a baseball team, behind by 10 runs, has a good inning and is now behind by 8 runs and is telling the other team they should leave the ball park.

I guess that's your reality.

:rofl:

[redqueen]

74. 8.6 after she was ahead by 20?

Dude, that's SO not a blowout.

:rofl:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

80. It's funny!

[Kaleva]

75. a blowout is 15% or more

[cosmicsheep]

78. That is not a blowout

Mo matter how much you might wish it to be so.

[TragedyandHope]

79. If by Blowout, you mean a tire has blown out on Hillary's campaign

Then yes.

Hillary's single digit win in a supposed "Clinton stronghold" means that despite all her advantages (demographics, strong support of the state political machine, shared media market with her home state and name recognition), Obama was able to put in an extremely strong showing and convince many early Clinton supporters to switch their vote. Overcoming great odds, Obama whittled her lead down from 20+ points to less than half that.

Now, Hillary is even further from the nomination than before. In a hypothetical perfect race, she now needs to win the remaining states by a +5% greater margin than before PA. So, yes another tire has blown out on her campaign.

[helderheid]

82. Not exactly...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5642811

[BklynChick]

85. 8.6

[julialnyc]

86. Blowout my ass.... look how far she fell

If this is the best she can do in a state made for her than it is a sad little win.

[EnviroBat]

87. Hey there. I found one of you high-school math tests!

[mrreowwr_kittty]

88. PROUD 2 B AMURKIN!! nt

[JoFerret]

90. Not toast but

it would be best to be done.

[GetTheRightVote]

91. You must be a republican in sheep's clothing, Obama is the front runner

but a long, long way. Stop drinking the Kool-aid, thank you.
By the way you were wrong.