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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:59 AM
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Special Pleading for Hillary Clinton
Hillary Clinton has no plausible argument for the nomination. Her only recourse is the fallacy of special pleading.

Despite being millions in debt and behind in the delegate count, the popular vote, states won, Hillary Clinton's argument seems to come down to the following:

1. Only "big states" count--at least ones that she won. Of course, she didn't really win Texas, and she claimed both New York and Pennsylvania as "home" states, undercutting her argument that Obama only won Illinois because it's his home state.

2. Caucuses don't count--and yet she began the race with far more resources and more seasoned staff; the caucuses were fair game for everyone.

3. Delegate totals shouldn't count--and yet to nominate her despite having fewer delegates would spell certain disaster in November. What's more, why bother spending all of the time and money to have primaries and caucuses in the first place, if party elders are to end up nominating whomever they wish?

4. She has more "experience"--and yet she has repeatedly overstated her experience, and the primary examples of her experience, her attempt at health care reform and the management of this campaign, have both been disasters.

5. Barack Obama is somehow "less electable" than she is, and yet she is in debt, is behind in delegates, and has far higher negatives than he does. And of course she is the person most responsible for trying to make him "unelectable."

6. "Other people" are racist, so Democrats should not nominate a black person. While she has not said this explicitly, she is nonetheless advancing it in the subtext of her arguments (any time it's mentioned that a state Obama has won has a large African American population, as if African Americans somehow don't count), and it is advanced much more explicitly by many of her minions. For members of a party that is supposedly the party of civil rights, this is the most appalling argument of all, and it is racism, pure and simple.

So basically her argument comes down to, "I should be the nominee because I say so. The only valid arguments are those I deem valid."

Some argument.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:01 AM
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1. neither candidate has enough delegates. time for a better third choice nt
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:05 AM
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3. That solution seems even more problematic.
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:05 AM by TheZug
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:08 AM
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5. Is that even possible any more -- now that our campaigns
have become so much about image? People get attached to those images.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:02 AM
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2. It's the sense of entitlement
She's upset because she feels she should have been given this long ago, and those pesky voters aren't cooperating
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:07 AM
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4. And don't forget she's more in touch with working people
except when she says "screw'em" and demonizes the party grassroots. Not to mention Bill taking speaking fees from the government responsible for the most murder of labor organizers IN THE WORLD.

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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:18 AM
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8. But . . . but . . . she's a "fighter."
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:12 AM
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6. Special pleading for Hillary to just go away. Please. Please. Please.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:13 AM
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7. It's called Narcissism. She is right, she will always be right.
Like Dubya, remember him? He's STILL right. :crazy:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:19 AM
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9. you expect rationality? from blowjob is not sex Clintons?
you have to be kidding.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:22 AM
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10. No--but I guess I expected better from some of her supporters.
Guess I was wrong.
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