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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:17 AM
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What is the voting machine situation in Indiana? And, of the states she's won
what was the voting machine situation?

I know that in Pennsylvania it is NOT legal to have auditable voting machines. Exit polls had it "too close to call" then as the "counting" from the 85% unverifiable machines came in, the results became Hillary by nearly 10 points, just as I predicted yesterday.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:18 AM
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1. I have no doubt in my mind that there was hanky-panky going on in PA. n/t
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:21 AM
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2. If the people can not get control of the voting over corporations, what can we do? n/t
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:21 AM
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3. It's easy, Barry won all his states legit
when Hillary wins its a big conspiracy, the voting machines are rigged.

:tinfoilhat:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:23 AM
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4. machines in states she won only work for bitter and/or typical white people. nt.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:24 AM
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6. Okay Indiana...so what is the voting machine situation in your state?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:24 AM
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5. I said in a couple of earlier posts that the Democrats in charge right now are...
basically to blame for this problem. They have had over a year to at least get at fixing this, and have basically done nothing to even address the problem.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:25 AM
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7. I agree, I would like to know WHY?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:25 AM
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8. you guys are so funny lol
philly got counted first, the outlying counties turned in late... that is why there was a spike at the end....
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:28 AM
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10. Even if there was no intended election fraud going on, you have to admit that there...
remains a potential major problem for November! If this situation goes unchecked, it leaves the door wide open for the Repubs. to attempt yet another steal of the election in November.
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:35 AM
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15. Sorry, but Philly area got counted LAST.
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:37 AM by MoJoWorkin
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:27 AM
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9. It's always fraud when it doesn't go as people want it.
I'm sick of this crap.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:31 AM
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11. Actually it went exactly as many Obama supporters expected it to go...
Clinton won by an estimated 8.6 % which represents a loss for her in all aspects. Since she was up by 20-30 points 6 weeks ago, this is a devastating loss for her...
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:35 AM
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14. "this is a devastating loss for her..."
winning is the new losing!

He campaigns in PA for 6 weeks, outspends her 3 to 1 and loses
and that's a "devastating loss" for her, sounds about right!!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:37 AM
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16. Wining by 8.6 % when you really needed to win by 15% or more translates to a loss. But of course...
both the MSM and the Hill supporters will spin this to a major win... Obama supporters have come to expect this.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:40 AM
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17. Obama should have won by at least 3, it's a
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:42 AM
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18. Bullshit, Obama was never expected to win PA... Where the hell did you come up with that? n/t
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 04:56 PM
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24. Did you not click on the link?
Your fellow flock members were very excited.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:05 AM
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22. .Pennyslvania is "Hillary Country"
the goal line was at 20+. Remember? Hillary was supposed to prove she could catch up with Obama. She failed. Sad.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:31 AM
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12. Same as the voting machines in the states Obama won.
Gotta problem with that? Take off your tin foil hat...it's much to tight!
Get out and get some fresh air...it should help!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:15 AM
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23. You should have a problem with ...
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:33 AM
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13. TINFOIL!
:tinfoilhat:
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democraticinsurgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:50 AM
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19. Indiana is 60% DRE 40% Optiscan
Here's the link:

http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/voters/vot_sys.html

This is as of fall 2006, but i assume it's still basically correct.

No Diebold, a split between ES&S and MicroVote (an Indiana firm) along with some other smaller vendors.

In other words, harder to steal than Pa. But still doable.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:58 AM
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20. I have read elsewhere that machine votes favor Hillary
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:59 AM by Emit
for what it's worth:


The Diebold Effect": Hillary's Votes Higher From Diebold Machines Even Controlling for Demographics (education, income, population, etc)
http://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2008/01/the_diebold_effect_hillarys_vo.php

Clinton Comeback: Courtesy of Diebold
http://billnoxid.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/clinton-comeback-courtesy-of-diebold /

Pretend Primary: Diebold strikes again
http://billnoxid.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/pretend-primary-diebold-strikes-again-2/

And then there's this: Voting Technology and
the 2008 New Hampshire Primary1
Michael C. Herron2 Walter R. Mebane, Jr.3 Jonathan N. Wand4
This Draft (4): January 21, 2008 Initial Draft: January 19, 2008
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wmebane/NH2008HMW.pdf

edit to add link
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:03 AM
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21. At a quick glance...
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