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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:31 AM
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HE'S BROKEN (!11)
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:32 AM by Mezzo
I'm sorry, Obama supporters, but even if Barack had won PA at all (which he didn't--he outsepnt her at least three to one, and still didn't win), HE'S BROKEN. He cannot compete in the general election against a Republican base which will be invigorated to donate just because of the Obama name.

He lost. It is time to unite and stand behind a candidate who can win against McCain.

:popcorn:
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:32 AM
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1. Um, are you insane?
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:32 AM
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3. not at all, are you?
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:33 AM
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6. Bu, bu, bu the big bad Republicans are going to say his name sounds "terrorist"
Haven't heard this one before :eyes:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:41 AM
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23. neither facts nor rhetorical questions work with these people.
It was 2-1, she failed to break 9%, and her campaign finances are a shambles.

She did not earn 3.7 yesterday, but 2.7. But all they can do is get their talking point e-mails and lie on every forum. Of course they ignore facts. If they didn't the raw truth would hurt them pretty badly. She lost the campaign yesterday. Her clones here just don't know it yet.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:32 AM
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2. LOL!
What a pile of shit!!
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:40 AM
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21. yep. BO's campaign sure does stink.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:42 AM
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welcome to my ignore list.
Jerks like this don't belong here. But they are so much like hillary.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:42 PM
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58. What the hell do you mean they don't belong here? The NERVE !
This isn't your private site! This isn't Obama's private site! If it is...I want my f****** money back.

Jerks like you don't belong on a Democratic site. Did you hear that!?
A DEMOCRATIC site! A place where people can speak their minds without YOU telling them to shove off. I have news for you... Hillary supporters are here to stay...just like Hillary. Get used to it!
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:45 AM
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30. Ha, ha - You support Clinton, and you talk about a stinking campaign?
This is really rich.
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:33 AM
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4. Lmao...how much has John McCain raised? How about Hillary? How about Obama? "nuff said
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:33 AM by ScarletSniper
Clinton will not be the nominee. that's it. period.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:34 AM
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8. Democrats always get outspent by dlc loving (aside: who IS Obama's finance guy?) repug lites...
still she rises.
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:50 AM
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31. She's broke and she'll be finished soon enough..like Thanksgiving dinner..lol
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:33 AM
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5. She couldnt close the deal my friend...
it's why she's behind in the total.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:35 AM
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11. she DID close the deal. And unless you disenfranchise voters who stood up to be
counted (and I strngly believe that the Democratic Party will not allow that to happen, no matter what Yee-Hah Dean says.

She's ahead, and you know it.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:37 AM
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15. behind in delegates, behind in popular votes, behind in states.
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:37 AM by yourguide
and she won PA by 8%...but she needed 64% to get caught up.

Now she needs 68% in all remaining contests.


MASSIVE FAIL.



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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:38 AM
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17. WRONG!! Ahead in popular vote, and MORE DEMOCRATS HAVE VOTED FOR HER
and you know it.

I also will not disenfranchise the voters of two states, just because it suits you guy.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:40 AM
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So apparently caucus' don't count now?
And Michigan counts even though he is was not on the ballot?

And they say those with a high school diploma or less are HRC supporters, since you cant grasp basic math I assume you are in the "or less" category.


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BornBlue Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:43 AM
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29. But you are ok with changing the rules 1/2 way through,
Just because it suits your girl.

And she is still behind in the popular vote.
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:16 PM
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39. Hey, he's not your guy, fella. n/t
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purji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:40 AM
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19. I don't feel disenfranchised.
I'm from Mi.and I love Howard Dean.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:11 PM
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66. Contrary ot the memes you seem to be following, reality dictates that just because you repeat

something over and over doesn't make it so.

Sheesh.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:33 AM
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7. I'm all for that! Hope you have plenty of pop-corn. The army of believers will be here soon.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:34 AM
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9. The polls consistently say that the candidate who can win against McSame is....
..Obama. Not Hillary.

Visit this planet much?

And he didn't "outspend" her. He OUTRAISED her 3-to-1. And the money he got was managed much better.

Who wants a candidate who can't beat the Republican nom, who can't raise money, and who can't manage the money they do manage to raise?


Not me!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:34 AM
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10. Broken? What are you smoking. I know women who won't vote for Hillary because she stayed with Bill
Is she broken and unelectable because she sits back while her husband is running around with any woman he can get?
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:36 AM
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14. and I know men who won't vote for Barack because he stayed with REAGAN
it works both ways, my friend.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:40 AM
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22. Right...
That is just the argument I would like used against her in NC.

Please!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:35 AM
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12. If you think HRC can win without the AA vote being heavy
and the activist support, I need some of that popcorn.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:37 AM
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16. and if you think BO can win without the women vote, YOU'd be the one in need...
also the activist barb is bullshit, and you know it.

I belong to MoveOn.org too.
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purji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:42 AM
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26. He's got this womans vote.n/t
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:06 PM
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37. Not this one! n/t
She has mine!
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #37
49. You gonna vote McCain if it's Obama?
Just curious, and if so why?
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:36 AM
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13. Wow....
start a thread to incite argument and then sit back eating popcorn to watch the fireworks....
real mature!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:39 AM
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18. But Obama leads EVERYTHING.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:40 AM
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20. I am getting the feeling that some folks are writing threads like this just to get some attention
Good luck with that.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:42 AM
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28. on the HRC payrolll
but they still seem to THINK they are getting paid even tho she's in debt to the tune of 10 mil.

:rofl:


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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:41 AM
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24. sorry. she's still screwed, dear.
She just didn't win it by enough. she didn't get her blow out. Hey, did you hear that Governor Henry endorsed Obama this morning?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:42 AM
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25. Must really piss you off that he is raising tons of cash from the grass roots
and she is going so far in debt, with her fat cat donors at the limit.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:42 AM
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27. your popcorn is stale
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:51 AM
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32. She's irrelevant
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:51 AM
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33. Good thing the choice isn't up to only you...
it seems the majority of the party has selected Obama.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:54 AM
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34. Are you completely out of your mind?
A republican base motivated to vote against the OBAMA name? Do you remember who your candidate is? The Republicans have been frothing at the mouth waiting to go after a Clinton when they tried to get back in the white house again for years. All the GE polling shows Clinton turns out the Republican base like nothing else while Obama matches up far better against McCain in redder states. and you're seriously going to try and come in here and tell us THIS is the reason we need to back Clinton for the GE?

Have you been drinking?
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:54 AM
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35. I agree with you Mezzo, and I believe he can never get back
the women votes after his campaign have over looked them.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:24 PM
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42. in the Fall, the 'women votes' will go to the candidate who supports a woman's right to choose
and that sure as hell ain't john McCain!

Enjoy your spitefullness now,
We'll see you in November when you vote for President Barack Obama.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:07 AM
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36. I think it's the Clinton name...
that gets the Repuke base howling.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:07 PM
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38. Are you drunk? SlickHilly is the R party wet dream.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:22 PM
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40. If he really were broken (he's not, whatever it means) who do you think would have

been responsible for that?

Does that make you all warm and fuzzy inside?

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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:26 PM
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44. you don't know what you'd look like in the mirror.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:08 PM
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64. Huh?
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:22 PM
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41. Correction...
(s)He lost. It is time to unite and stand behind a candidate who can win against McCain.(& thats Obama)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:25 PM
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43. Your brain is broken.
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 01:42 PM by AtomicKitten
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:09 PM
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65. and if it wasn't when writing the OP, it certainly was by the time s/he got to
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:29 PM
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45. Hillary could definitely use that kind of broken. Instead Hillary is just plain BROKE! Literally.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:29 PM
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46. why does the "cult of clinton" keep acting like Hillary's in the lead in this thing?
it's really getting ridiculous.
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:34 PM
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50. It went out on blastfax and spam this morning, you didn't get yours?
Have you noticed also how they are saying Obama is the "negative" one? Positively Rovian.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:30 PM
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47. I am standing behind the candidate who can beat McCain
That candidate is senator Obama.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:31 PM
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48. He has more delegates, more votes, more money, higher approval ratings
and has beaten the pre-primaries favorite.

It takes extreme stupidity to say he should forfeit to the number 2 in the race.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:35 PM
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52. Don't forget - he's also viewed as more trustworthy than either she OR McCain.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:34 PM
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51. Hillary is the only one who will invigorate the GOP base.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:38 PM
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53. Ugh, I took you off of ignore to read this stupid shit?
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 01:38 PM by EnviroBat
Damn, that was a fucking idiotic post. Well, back in shit-box you go...
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:39 PM
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54. Who's broken?
Leads in Pledged Delegates - Obama
Leads in popular Vote - Obama
Leads in States Won - Obama

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:40 PM
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55. Flame bait, stop trolling
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:40 PM
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56. Hill-arious Clin-toon = Epic Fail.
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 01:43 PM by EnviroBat
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:41 PM
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57. One of my big reasons for supporting Obama is that he is WAY stronger against McCain
Hillary is like poison. She'll sink us if she's the nominee.
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NYDem Observer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:45 PM
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59. Republican base will be more invigorated
If Clinton is the nominee
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:49 PM
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60. More playground bullshit from the HillBullies.
You do your premature "Mission Accomplished" touchdown dance up until the Iowa primary, then you switch to pure spin, then you leave and go pout when nobody swallows your crap, then you come back and focus on nothing but disruption. Shameful from start to finish.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:54 PM
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61. Keep on drinking
the kool-aid. My gawd she won Pa., BUT she didn't win it in double digits, she didn't gain in delegates to go ahead of Obama. The thing is that Obama has run such a strong campaign that Hillary is ove $10 MILLION in debt. Whatever she collected in the last 24 hours will not even pay her sorry ass managers let alone all the vendors who she left hanging.

Enjoy your arrogance because the thing is she is NOT going to be the nominee and a primary does not prove that anyone can beat the other, I swear the Clinton BS propaganda is boiling over to her supporters. I thought only Republicans acted so selfish and arrogant, boy was I wrong.
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Johnny Battleground Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:03 PM
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62. I agree but wrong calculus
I think the race has invigorated the opposition.
If you mean his name associated with Wright, Rezko, Ayers, and some comments he and his wife made that won't win the vital swing voters then I agree.
He is broke, and it took too long to reveal his weak spots. His weak spots are open to easy attacks.
To win he needs people outside the party... those teetering on the fence.
Superdelegates will decide this. I would vote for Hillary.
She's got a shot at winning.
"He's broke."
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:06 PM
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63. I am standing behind a candidate who can beat McCain... Obama...
Why aren't you? Don't you know that what you are looking at in Hillary is John Kerry part II? One's a man. One's a woman but on key issues they voted the same.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:13 PM
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67. Ok, I'll unite behind Ralph Nader
No way will I support Corporate whore Hillary Clinton
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