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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:05 PM
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For those of you thinking of not voting for the Democratic nominee in November , think
about this... It will take just ONE more to be nominated by President McCain.







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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:08 PM
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1. Why even talk about this now.
Leave people alone with their own thoughts for just one day! Why try to control others?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:13 PM
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5. "controlling others"???
I want people here to think, and not just make rash judgements.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:20 PM
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16. This is a decision that is months away.
It really makes no difference today. I am sick of Hill right now but by November I may feel differently. You asking this question today is useless. I see these posts all of the time and I wonder why we have to talk about this now. I think it is to stir the pot. I like your little guy beating on things...not.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:23 PM
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20. Yes, it's a decision that may be months away, but when
diehard democrats are talking about not voting or voting for McCain, I am very concerned. It has a way of snowballing, especially with the M$M.

Sorry if you don't like the gif "beating a dead horse", but much of the commentary in here is just that. Not of issues and substance, but nonsensical.

:shrug:
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:08 PM
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2. I'm voting Demcratic & Progressive.
The math isn't with our Republican-lite candidate (clinton). And we all know Obama will be the nominee, and that is who I'm voting for. I don't even see the point of suggesting otherwise.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:09 PM
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3. At this point I really don't think it makes much difference whether it is ...
John McCain or Hillary Clinton as President, cause it seems to me they are of the same stripes.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:11 PM
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4. Wow! You really think Hillary Clinton would appoint any SCJ
like the ones shown??

:wtf:
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:14 PM
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7. I've seen many of her crap sides and certain that there are more out there...
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:22 PM by LakeSamish706
So nothing would surprise me about this woman anymore. Since everything seems to be about Hillary in Hillary's mind...

Edited to say:

I realize that this is off topic but..... It really pains me that we had so many great candidates running for President; ie: Kucinich, Edwards, Dodd and others and ended up with an extremely flawed candidate like Hillary Clinton.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:17 PM
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11. If Bill Clinton's choices for SCJ are any indication, then I don't think
they will be in the mold of the ones pictured. My one concern would that the SJC to be appointed still might be beholden to the Corporatacracy in this country.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:07 PM
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27. Is HRC pro-life?
Is she anti-stem cell research? anti-science? Give me a fucking break. If you can't see the differences between HRC and McCain you are, pardon my french, an fucking idiot.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:18 PM
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29. Who the fuck knows what Hillary Clinton stands for from day to day? She flip...
flops like a fish out of water.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:15 PM
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8. Why not? She's so obsessed with pandering to conservatives...
That she's going on their shows (Fox), seeking their endorsements (Scaiffe) and stealing all their talking points.

McCain honestly sounds like a more moderate Republican than she does lately.

God help the Supreme Court if one of our liberal justices should knock off during her first term.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:25 PM
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22. Agree. I painfully remember Clintonian Triangulation. I have no faith w/her & the SC. -eom
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:08 PM
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28. See above
But whatever her faults, at least she understands science and technology and is pro-choice.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:29 PM
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25. Hillary is WORSE. McCain hasn't threatened Iran with nuclear obliteration....
...If Obama supporters want to use the same kind of scare tactics Hillary and her supporters use, we could easily paste the landscape with pictures of mushroom clouds and "Hillary Says She Will Start a Nuclear War."

Then run pictures of Hiroshima victims.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:14 PM
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6. I'm in a red state.
I have the luxury of not having to vote for the Dem candidate for president... though I've always done so since I've been able to vote.

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:18 PM
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13. I'm in a congressional district of Philly that voted 80% Obama....
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:18 PM by Kristi1696
And is heavily African American. My CD is toast should she be the nominee. And I have such respect for the voters I met campaigning for Barack that I will follow their lead.

If the Democratic party throws my black neighbors under the bus, I will lie down with them.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:20 PM
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30. Where in Philly?
I canvassed some predominantly black precincts in South Philly Monday and Tuesday. There was so much excitement about Obama there that it was really uplifting despite the sad state of some of those neighborhoods.

I will vote for Clinton if she is the nominee, but if the predominantly white superdelegates take the nomination away from Obama, I don't think I could go back to those neighborhoods and ask them to do the same.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:06 PM
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31. West.
PA-2, specifically.

Which side of Broad were you canvassing on? That's the dividing line between PA-1 and PA-2.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:16 PM
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9. There's no point in using logic with Clintophobes.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:30 PM
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26. No indication Hillary wouldn't choose a neocon for the USSC. Actions speak...
louder than words, and her actions have pointed to a Republican set of values and approaches.

She is also a proven liar, so we cetainly can't trust what she promises.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:17 PM
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10. Exactly. This is what it's all about. We need either of our fine candidates as President.
Neither would produce one of those.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:18 PM
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14. Sadly, there are some that do believe one or the other would
produce that type.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:18 PM
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12. I don't trust one of the democratic candidates to pick a liberal justice.
So the SC argument holds no water.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:19 PM
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15. Can't we combine these posts?
consolidate the energy

"I will never vote for_____________"

and

"I will pledge to only vote for_________"

I think ya'all should get a room and get it over with.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:20 PM
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17. That would make GD:Ptth just one long thread with a brazilian sub-threads!
:rofl:
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:21 PM
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18. Maybe we could combine it with that virginity promise thing
and save even more time and energy. Peace, kim
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:22 PM
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19. Dupe, sorry
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:23 PM by peace13
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:24 PM
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21. Ah, the long lost Supreme Court red herring argument
It's been a while since the dead horse has been beaten - I was beginning to think that the whole Supreme Court/Nader cost us <fill in the blank> cadre was asleep or something.

For the millionth time - the reason that the Supreme Court is constituted as such is because the DEMOCRATS did nothing to stop it.

That's the ONLY reason.

Now, how many times has Bush brought abortion test cases before it? That would be zero.

How many times will Republicans or Democrats upset the mother of all fund raising/get out the vote issues by actually doing what they say?

That would be zero again.

While you get led by the nose with regards to the one-trick pony abortion issue BOTH parties are doing all they can to stack the court with business loving folks who look to give corporations the same rights as people.

Once you understand that then it makes perfect sense as to why Alito and Roberts are there.

Follow the (two-party) money.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:27 PM
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24. The last time I checked, the President selects the SCJ, not the Congress.
The congress' position is to provide advice and consent.

If Al Gore was president, this would not have happened.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:27 PM
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23. More scare tactics. Apparently Hillary can't run on her own merits. n/t
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